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I think the Macalope should visit MacRumors from time to time if he doesn't already. Would help keep us in line :)

It is very true that most or all of us here couldn't do the job Tim does. That said, I doubt that forums like this one go entirely unnoticed by Apple and certainly by other potential customers. It is a public vote. As for never convincing an Apple fan: well, I've been a very passionate one since I bought my first iPod nano in 2008 and have dearly enjoyed my Apple toys. This is why I'm concerned with the state Apple is in.

I think what you're really saying is this: http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/apples-failure-to-scale
 
Can a single competent reporter ask why Apple is still offering 16GB storage (non upgradable no less) in 2016??

Because they actually last longer. The people who can't afford more storage also can't afford to upgrade as often, so these less expensive iPhones actually get used for a year or two longer. Thus causing less pollution and waste.
 
Damn, you guys are on some serious negativity drugs or something today. All this crap about not updating the Macs and using "sub standard" hardware while charging too much money. This has been how Apple has done business since the beginning. With Steve and without. Apple is a company that makes money. Lots of it. It did when Steve was at the helm as well. Apple has never been at the forefront of computer hardware specs EXCEPT when it comes to design. Steve specifically chose lesser clocked, lesser sized CPUs, RAM and Hard Drives either to keep costs down, power consumption down or size down to allow for smoother, slicker, smaller, thinner designs. Even the very first Macintosh back in 84 was incredibly underpowered and could barely run the OS just so it could be in an (at the time) small well-designed package that people would look at and go "wow, I need that." (this is documented in many books and documentaries.) But the design was always the selling point. Apple of today is still doing that. Say what you want, but compared to the current crop of Windows 10 based laptops and 2-in-1's and Android tablets and phones, I think Apple is still on top. I love their design philosophy, and the general look and feel of the devices as well as how they generally just work. Also, to contradict myself, I think the A series CPUs in the iPhones and iPads are actually the best performing CPUs out there and there laptop SSD hard drives are the fastest based on many benchmarks.)

Yes, I am an "Apple fanboy" and yes, I have purchased many of their devices over the years--several just in the last year. I specifically love the new MacBook 12" and the new 9.7" iPad Pro with Smart keyboard and Pencil. As a computer consultant, I work with and support a lot of hardware including Windows based, Android based and Apple based devices. In general, Apple stuff usually just works better, has less problems, and my customers love them as well. The phrase "I wish I'd switched a long time ago" is common after using their first-time new Apple products and toys.

Also, I like that Tim Cook and Apple have made things like renewable energy, recycling, and not backing down from the the Apple stance on privacy. It does, in fact, make me want to support them and buy their products. I respect a socially/environmentally conscious corporation. (Although I do not approve of them and other US-baserd Corps using the out-of-country tax loopholes to not pay the proper amount of taxes--Yes they are paying what the legally should, but the US should change the damn laws)

And finally, for all those whining about 16GB base model iPhones and iPads: get the hell over it! They sell other flash drive sizes. If 16GB isn't enough for you or your loved ones, buy the next size model. It's a hundred bucks more. Big deal! If you're buying Apple stuff, you're already paying a premium, so either fork over the extra hundred or switch brands. No one is forcing you to live on 16GB. No one!
The force is weak in this young jedi.
 
The truth is the exact opposite. Reduced prices cause people to buy more stuff they don't really need as much (e.g. need so much they are willing to pay more.) Thus causes more production byproducts (pollution) and more churn which puts more waste in landfill. Better for the environment to make people want to keep using their current Macs for many many years more by discouraging needless spec churn.

Higher prices (if you can) reduces waste.
I understand your view and support unnecessary production. However, I do not support higher pricing.
 
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I've never seen a non-Apple smartphone that is worth more than 200 bucks. Samsung charging Apple prices is ludicrous

And what make my apple badged phone worth $1200? It's 6 times the phone of the Samsung edge S7? ....now that is laughable !

Apple Charging laptop prices for a phone is okay??

Silly comment mate!
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32 doesn't change the world either.

The iPhone 6S pro. Starting at 32, and getting an extra $100 for the pro name. That is world changing
 

Thank you for the article. JamesPDX, that was dead on. There is a feeling of stagnation when regular updates don't come. iWork is a walking zombie even if it is a superficially attractive one. I love their layout with the sidebar for Pages and Keynote. But iWork is underpowered. Take Pages: for anything more than basic document editing. Its spelling and grammar checkers are simply not as robust as Word's. I can't build a customized table of contents because Eddy Cue removed my bookmarking option. I can't edit on the go because there is no reflow for iOS. I switched to Word. MS Word, for crying out loud. It is a cluttered mess, but like an average man's toolbox, it may be messy, but it has what you need. Why can't it have layers of increasing complexity? We won't even talk about Numbers and I haven't built a new Keynote in a year.

As for the Mac Pro, it was a beautifully innovative product except it hamstrung the power user to its un-upgradable specs. Too greedy Apple! Too greedy! You can get away with that in a super-thin Macbook, but why did you do that your elite user-base?

From Mark Holmes
"And the thing Apple forgets, is their pro users serve as more than another group of customers. We are, or were their evangelists, the ones who spread the word about how great Apple products are. The member of the family, or the one of the group of friends who people would go to for tech advice. I increasingly have a hard time pointing people to the Apple store…"

And "Microsoft has taken the role of innovator." Yep, I've increasingly been paying attention to what they make. Personally, I believe their tablet off the keyboard is too heavy, but at least it is less inconvenient than not having the option. And there is the VR gear in the pipe (hopefully Apple is working on that). What they produce may not always been optimized, but at least it is new.

And this: "If the iPhone 7 has the same form factor, key growth markets will start to abandon it because at this point, for many people, the iPhone is about fashion, not technology." I have purposefully held on to my iPhone 5S because I wanted to be part of iPhone 7's launch: something I expected would be special. Hey it is the big Number 7, right? We'll see. Right now, it looks more like I'll be holding out till 2017. But then today I did the unthinkable. I actually watched a Galaxy S7 commercial. Not a good sign.

That 43 second clip of Jobs saying Apple has a problem with execution. I think that is becoming increasingly relevant. As much as I like Jon Ivy, I have to say that the basic form of the Mac hasn't changed much in the last 6 years. Speaking the Macbook Pro: Beautiful yet delicate aluminum, curved on the corners with ergonomically uncomfortable edges, and a screen that is so flush with its keyboard that the keys have scratched the screen!

This isn't a rant. It is pain points that have built up over the years. Like being in a marriage where you still love the person you married, but flaws you've been ignoring are becoming increasingly harder to do so. Which wouldn't be so bad, except the number of flaws is not being balanced out by improvements you'd expect with the benefits of experience and time.

Hence the article: a failure to scale up. Or put another away: a failure to be competitive.
 
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No it means they have good taste, as Apple is the only smartphone company that has design chops. Samsung makes cranes for shipping container amongst other things. Nobody associates them with design
Oh, you mean those shipping container cranes that get Apple products from China to the US and the rest of the world, yeah, what possible good could they be?

Much better to have a cool $400 watch that needs recharging everyday, that'll change the world.
 
On Planet Apple........

Tim Cook "Best products on earth that enrich people's lives"

Meanwhile back on planet reality......

Makers of HTC Vive and Oculus Rift "As soon as Apple makes a decent computer we will be able to support it"

You do have to wonder if many at Apple and esp at the high end, do really exist in some imaginative bubble they have created for themselves and actually believe their own marketing speak......
 
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More importantly, what if pizzas were spherical?
 
The Apple Display was last released in 2011
The MacPro was last released 2013
The MacMini has been neutered to 2 cores and soldered ram

These products carry old technology and their prices have remained high.

For example the MacPro is a super premium product costing up to $10,000 or more
and an audience of professionals that are the one left with 3 old technology.

What the heck is Tim doing ???

Tim is traveling the world taking pictures, giving interviews and working on human rights, work rights , gay rights, global warming and any other issue the world has.

He is an accountant but he wants to be a politician so bad.

Fine. Then have some decency and let a smart CEO who cares about products take over Apple.
 
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It seems that whenever I begin to warm to TC, he suddenly comes out with deluded, smug comments like this, that just smacks of ignorance and arrogance.

I simply can't comprehend how he can so actively and willingly overlook how he is squeezing ludicrous profit margins from every line, taking advantage of loyal consumers, and destroying a brand's long-term reputation with outdated hardware and poorly performing machines.
Exactly. It's actually kind of sad really.
 
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focusing on the user experience is smug? What happened to this site? The Apple fans must have left to go to other sites. Just Android trolls left

5400RPM drives, outdated hardware, and a flagship Mac that has 3 year old hardware is not focusing on the user experience. Maybe you should be reminded that Apple make products other than iPhones. So what, we're Windows trolls as well? :rolleyes:
 
Tim is starting to sound like the Wizard of Oz, and the public have spotted the curtain.

I think the problem is, the level of 'innovation' has become slave to the shareholders and margin.

If Apple were to do what they do best, it would be take the latest innovations and make them better. Not to pretend they have the next best thing coming. 'Changing lives' is sounding like nothing more than political rhetoric.

They need to accept that margins may need to reduce in the short term, just to catch up. OLED, wireless charging, curved screens, waterproof, USB-C, low light cameras, big storage. These should already be standard on flagship phones. They have been elsewhere for up to two years.

It will be a lot more believable that the 'next best thing' is in the pipeline, if the current line was already top spec. But they have dropped along way back, with the continual promise of 'something is coming'.

Each Keynote is becoming more and more boring because the pipeline is weak. If the iPhone 7 does end up only a slight upgrade, that is still missing many functions already commonplace in the market, then I think any level of marketing won't save Tim, and that won't be a bad thing.
 
These loyal customers that Cooks claims are almost gone. The 'loyal' customers, were those that stuck with Apple Computer Inc through the 80's, 90's and early 2000's. The creative industries, the large design houses, mapping companies, etc. A lot have already moved. Todays customers are not loyal. They're fad loving, fashion wannabe's.

An iPhone is not an elite product. Everyone has one. They are common as muck. Whilst good for Apple's profits, there is no brand exclusivity associated with it anymore. Certainly not in the UK. I've never owned on and never will. Not because I don't like them, there are nicely designed bits of hardware. I don't wish to spend £500 on something to text friends and make the occasional phone call.

Apple need to get back to making things that stand out, front of the field yet again. They had the chance with LightPeek, instead they and Intel cheaped out for CopperPeak. Invest in some future technologies. An electric car isn't it. All the large manufacturers are well ahead of Apple on that front.

Every one here can agree, Jonny5 designs stunning looking tuff, it's now time to make the internal components just as stunning. Keep the products moving forward, not stagnating with 4 year old parts.
 
The truth is the exact opposite. Reduced prices cause people to buy more stuff they don't really need as much (e.g. need so much they are willing to pay more.) Thus causes more production byproducts (pollution) and more churn which puts more waste in landfill. Better for the environment to make people want to keep using their current Macs for many many years more by discouraging needless spec churn.

Higher prices (if you can) reduces waste.

What poppycock. Planned obsolescence is much more likely to cause landfill waste.

And people won't keep using their current Macs for many many years more, because the specs on the base machines are so poor. I can't believe you consider upgrading Macs with 2016 tech to be a 'needless spec churn'.
 
2 headlines on the same day:

"Apple CEO Tim Cook: We want to change the world through our products"
"Time names iPhone most influential gadget of all time"

One could almost be forgiven for thinking the timing is not a coincidence...
 
Um, his claim is what every company wants to do. And for the same reason: Personal profit. That's all for-profit companies really care about.

I think very few companies wants to change the world.

There are probably 20-40 million companies in US alone, maybe 100-200 millions in the world depending on your definition. I would surprise if even one million of these companies wants to change the world.
 
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