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Okay, let’s phrase this for someone unwaveringly in-line with Apple’s vision: does Apple want the iPad to be considered a computer, yes or no?

Like I said before, the purest sense of the word means that my oven is a computer. My car is a computer, Yes a phone is a computer and a tablet is a computer. My watch is a computer. However, it has become standard for discussions that computers = desktop/laptop. Tablets = iPad for example. Phone = iPhone for example.
 
Okay, let’s phrase this for someone unwaveringly in-line with Apple’s vision: does Apple want the iPad to be considered a computer, yes or no?

The iPad is a computer, regardless of whether people want to acknowledge it as such.

It’s also an alternative, rather than a replacement for the Mac, which makes sense, because this means that users have a choice between two distinct computing experiences depending on their needs.
 
1.) AAPL has a Complete & Total Stranglehold on "App Discovery" in their "curated" iOS App Stores around the world !

2.) AAPL "Plays Favorites".

Both are easy to prove !

New Law, that will illustrate both to the General Public, will begin to be drafted (by Congress) shortly AFTER today's Hearing !

The General Public will begin to hear-about the details 1-3 weeks from now.

I don't expect much, if anything, out of today's Hearing.

Let the "Trust Busting" begin ! ...
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The iPad is a computer, regardless of whether people want to acknowledge it as such.

It’s also an alternative, rather than a replacement for the Mac, which makes sense, because this means that users have a choice between two distinct computing experiences depending on their needs.

The iPhone is NO MORE THAN a fancy computer !

Unfortunately, most who own one don't know the difference between DRAM & NAND Flash Storage !
 
Too many in here don't seem to grasp what general computing is. What are our everyday devices we need to get a myriad things done.

An Xbox is pretty specifically for games. An oven is for cooking food. Is an iPhone just for making calls? Is it locked down to just that? No. It can install software to do anything your heart desires. It is a general computing device. It needs to be open. I hope the congressmen see through to this.

Trying to jump through hoops to somehow "define" the iPhone/iPad as being less than a general purpose device is just making excuses.

Why do you, congress, myself get to decide how Apple's business works? This is the entire concept of capitalism. Android is open. Move over there. If Apple starts to fail because of the migration to Android, iOS will become more open as a response. Or they could let the ship sink. Its their business.
 
1.) AAPL has a Complete & Total Stranglehold on "App Discovery" in their "curated" iOS App Stores around the world !

2.) AAPL "Plays Favorites".

Both are easy to prove !

New Law, that will illustrate both to the General Public, will begin to be drafted (by Congress) shortly AFTER today's Hearing !

The General Public will begin to hear-about the details 1-3 weeks from now.

I don't expect much, if anything, out of today's Hearing.

Let the "Trust Busting" begin ! ...
Okay Mr. Congress. Start with Google, Facebook and Amazon...then take on Apple. Should be 5-10 years at that point.
The iPhone is NO MORE THAN a fancy computer !

Unfortunately, most who own one don't know the difference between DRAM & NAND Flash Storage !
A doctor giving you a lifesaving surgery, depending on their iphone, doesn't need to know the difference.
 
But Apple won't allow Netflix to even tell you that's an option. Apps could provide a 15%/7.5% discount which would simultaneously save both users and developers money. Apple would take their 30%/15% cut from people who do sign up through the app because they value using Apple's payments, or don't know any better. But Apple wants to force everyone into the latter choice, for obvious reasons.



This is the key point of the whole issue that everyone keeps missing. It's not about whether 30% is the right number, it's about a) not even allowing apps to tell users that they have options for where to sign up that might be cheaper, and b) not allowing third party apps access to all the functionality that Apple's own apps enjoy. The latter is the key difference between Apple and other stores like PlayStation.

No, the key point you’re misstating is that Apple doesn’t prevent anyone from telling folks there are other ways to sign up, they prevent them from using the App Store to advertise those methods— why should any on line or bricks and mortar store be forced to let competitors a use their store/resources to advertise? Lol
 
it's so mind-boggling that I don't even consider it to be rational.
That's your problem. At the end of the day, developers are complaining that they don't have a choice to bypass the 30% / 15% Apple fee which is false because they do. Now you can make a good case that it's wrong that Apple doesn't allow Netflix to let users know, within the app itself, that users can sign up on Netflix's website for cheaper. I would agree that. But regarding the scenario that you described, which is exactly how it works by the way, I have no issue with it.
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But Apple won't allow Netflix to even tell you that's an option.
I agree and this is wrong and should be changed.
 
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Don't say I didn't have to update because we are forced to update iOS because the App Store forces all future apps updates to be compiled on the latest Xcode that only runs on the latest iOS version.
Xcode 12 — which has this year’s SDKs for macOS Big Sur, iOS/“iPadOS” 14, watchOS 7, and tvOS 14 — allows you to deploy back to iOS 9 if you want.
 
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What if MacOS had the same restrictions in regards installing apps?

Then clearly you wouldn’t buy a mac. It’s as clear as day: not a single person or company in the world forced you to buy an iphone, or a mac. In fact there are countless competitors who offer cheaper and higher spec devices. When you buy apple you buy the experience, which includes security and quality of life benefits, but also comes with clear drawbacks. We all knew that going in
 
Part of Ideal New Law ?

Totals, plus broken-down by Category:

1.) How many of the 1.7M apps in the App Store have generated more than $100 USD in Revenue ?

2.) Likewise, how may have generated more than $1K USD in Revenue ?

3.) Likewise, how many have generated more than $10K USD in Revenue ?

Need absolute numbers + percentages.

Never thought of this before today, but I think this is a good one, & a counter to Cook's comment about 1.7M apps in the App Store.

I will pass this off to "the Subcommittee" later today !
 
When macOS, Windows, iOS, and Android all eventually and inevitably follow the trend and disallow freedom to install apps outside a curated store, let’s just all accept it and use the excuse “well you could always go linux”

I don't think that will happen, but for arguments sake let's continue. So what if that happens? You are essentially advocating businesses be controlled how they operate at a level that has never been done before.

There will probably be an EU specific version of iOS, just like Windows N that excludes Windows Media Player for the EU environments.


I honestly do not agree with this sort of micro-managing of a business. Capitalism will determine if Apple succeeds if they disallow outside Mac App Store programs on macOS. The government has bigger issues to deal with, like true anti-competitive behavior and monopolies like Spectrum internet and their fight with Google Fiber at several locations.
 
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