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Excellent points! Well said.

Tim Cook is highly evil for donating to and attending Trump's inauguration. That's because such donations erode democracy and solidify plutocracy.

Cook's support of Trump means Cook supports oligarchy, not democracy. Cook supports oligarchy because that's what's best for shareholders.

By Cook donating to and attending Trump's inauguration, it's clear that all of his previous public social justice stances were nothing more than inauthentic virtue signaling. Apple SJW-CEO Tim Cook is a phony who does not genuinely care about social justice.

Cook is a horrible human being. When history looks back at Trump having fascistic tendencies, as well as colonialist tendencies, and being a warmonger with plenty of blood on his hands, I hope that Cook is remembered and villified as someone who supported that with both his large amount of money as well as his presence.
They say this isn’t so much about Trump and then you say well said. Then you proceeded to talk about Trump no less than four times. 😝
 
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In my opinion, this is part of Cook doing his job as CEO of Apple. That part of his job is to foster a positive working relationship with the President - no matter who it is - as that relationship can have a significant effect on Apple's operations.

I'd be more surprised if he chose not go to the inauguration. That would be a petulant, unproductive response, and frankly, unbecoming of Apple's CEO.

Most of us with some work experience have had to work with people that we don't like, for whatever reason; and accept having to do that as part of being an adult in a work environment.

The job needs to be done, regardless of the personalities involved. In my experience, adults focus on the job, not the personalities.

In spite of what may be his personal feelings, Cook chose to act like an adult. Good for him.
 
In my opinion, this is part of Cook doing his job as CEO of Apple. That part of his job is to foster a positive working relationship with the President - no matter who it is - as that relationship can have a significant effect on Apple's operations.

I'd be more surprised if he chose not go to the inauguration. That would be a petulant, unproductive response, and frankly, unbecoming of Apple's CEO.

Most of us with some work experience have had to work with people that we don't like, for whatever reason; and accept having to do that as part of being an adult in a work environment.

The job needs to be done, regardless of the personalities involved. In my experience, adults focus on the job, not the personalities.

In spite of what may be his personal feelings, Cook chose to act like an adult. Good for him.
Very well said, Matz. I'm sure he hates it, but this is his job. I'm sure he has worked with plenty of people in his past that he hasn't liked. Who hasn't?
 
They settled the lawsuit, which they were not required to acknowledge discrimination but the settlement was still described as the Trumps failed and neglected to comply with the Fair Housing Act and they had to change their practices.
Long way of saying "not guilty." 😄Can't wait to see your spin on the current Fauci pardon who doesn't even have charges against him (yet).

The guy is almost 80, way past retirement. He had a huge incentive to campaign for President, to pardon himself and avoid jail. From some of the news clips I saw of Trump during his campaign he seemed very tired, slurring speech, mispronouncing words, and perhaps behaving loopy because he was so tired.

Yes, I don’t like Trump. He wants to put 25% tariffs on Canada…for what? He claims because there is a trade surplus in Canada’s favour (when Americans have a much larger population and you buy a lot of energy and resources from Canada) or because he has this really stupid ignorant concept he can use economic force to make Canada a 51st state (by far the dumbest thing he has uttered so far). The tariffs could also simply be collateral damage on Canada because the actual target is China; put tariffs on Canada and Mexico to soften the tariffs blow on China. China's trade surplus with the US is enormous compared to Canada and China has 1,100 million more people compared to the US.

No, the slurred speech and mispronounced words are because he's an imbecile. Nothing to do with tiredness.
🤣 You're getting Biden and Trump videos confused. Biden is the one...... V.A. benefits... DEI... Anyways....
 
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Embarrassed to be a fan of Apple products today. :(

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Embarrassed to be a fan of Apple products today. :(
You don't have to equal Apple with Tim, just saying.

I've dislked the guy strongly from 1st day, and look forward to the day when he's gone.
But I won't let him take away the love of my Apple products, no way.
It's very possible to separate it, and enjoy what Steve, Joni etc was setting in motion, and disregard Tim as a person. To me at least. Maybe more difficult for Americans?
I will have a celebrations of some sort when Apple gets a new CEO, however.
 
newsflash: worlds largest company ceo attempts to not offend worlds most powerful country president for benefit of employees, shareholders and customers.
But is it necessary to do so in such a servile and sycophantic manner?

Put another way, would you show such sympathetic understanding of this stance if the powerful leader in question claimed to be left wing?

More to the point, is it healthy (for the country, and not just for the shareholders) for the boundaries between capital and government to be quite so blurred?

And, is it the function of prominent players in the world of capital - or, oligarchs - not to offend those in power in a country that considers (considered?) itself a democracy?

Or, would it be more accurate to suggest that these prominent players in the world of capital little more than a powerful clique attending the court of (and vying for the attention of) a capricious autocrat?
To do otherwise would be nuts
I beg to differ.
 
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Put another way, would you show such sympathetic understanding of this stance if the powerful leader in question claimed to be left wing?

Yes. If you mentioned that on the assumption that I'm a trump supporter - I'm about as far from that as there is (I'm not a us citizen for a start).

Trump is a buffoon, and the what he stands for is a national disgrace.

This isn't a partisan issue, it is not screwing over your company, your employees and your customers over something there's nothing you can do about. If apple or any other company was to refuse to attend the inauguration for any new leader, they're making a mistake and will have a far tougher time negotiating policy than if they actually attend what is ultimately a networking event.

The election happened; this is the result. I don't like it, I don't agree with it, but doing things to deliberately offend the commander in chief when there are far bigger issues at stake is just stupid.
 
Yes. If you mentioned that on the assumption that I'm a trump supporter - I'm about as far from that as there is (I'm not a us citizen for a start).
Fair enough.

I had wondered about that, as I had recalled some of your posts from the recent, or more, distant, past.
Trump is a buffoon, and the what he stands for is a national disgrace.
No argument there.
This isn't a partisan issue, it is not screwing over your company, your employees and your customers over something there's nothing you can do about. If apple or any other company was to refuse to attend the inauguration for any new leader, they're making a mistake and will have a far tougher time negotiating policy than if they actually attend what is ultimately a networking event.

The election happened; this is the result. I don't like it, I don't agree with it, but doing things to deliberately offend the commander in chief when there are far bigger issues at stake is just stupid.
This is not a question of giving offence by refusing to attend an inauguration to which you have received an invitation.

My concerns arise from how these prominent players in the world of capital went about attending the inauguration.

I wonder whether it is entirely necessary to be quite so servile, sycophantic and obsequious, to those about to take office and power, even in pursuit of shareholder profit?

Moreover, is it entirely fitting for business to offer donations, or funding, for an inauguration - that is, not a political campaign, but for an actual inauguration - quite so flagrantly?

For that matter, once again, I will ask again whether it is healthy, for a (supposed) democracy for the boundaries between capital and government to be so blurred?

And yesterday's optics all but confirmed this:

Is it appropriate for - this broligarchy, this collection of wealthy techbro oligarchs - to be seated in the front row, that is, the row immediately in front of the cabinet who were about to take office during an inauguration?

Where does behaviour, or conduct, prompted by the desire to "not to seek to give offence" (and perhaps, also by political preferences) - and preserve shareholder profit - end?

Are there limits beyond which one should not abase oneself to power in pursuit of shareholder profit?
 
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I was basically sick to my stomach seeing shots of the billionaires behind the new President yesterday

This is just a flat out plutocracy (with a healthy dose of kakistocracy)

If one is "for that", fair enough I guess -- but we should be honest about it

It's not normal to have an Elon, Zuck, Tim, Jeff, Sundar, etc... as the key figures standing right behind an incoming US President
 
I agree with this. This wouldn't have been a big controversy if it had been Mitt Romney or John McCain's inauguration.
Trump just pardoned people who committed violence in support of Trump.
Unfortunately the commission set up to investigate this destroyed tons of evidence. We'll never know for sure now who was guilty and who wasn't so you have to let them all go.
 
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Are any other LGBT users here bothered by the fact that Tim Cook went to the inauguration while LGBT was removed with the federal site? Like, it's disturbing. I don't care how much I was being paid, I would not go to an event for a group of people that have removed my community from an official website like we don't matter. Considering how Tim Cook is a Gay person, he should have an issue with going to this event.

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Are any other LGBT users here bothered by the fact that Tim Cook when to the inauguration while LGBT was removed with the federal site? Like, it's disturbing. I don't care how much I was being paid, I would not go to an event for a group of people that have removed my community from an official website like we don't matter. Considering how Tim Cook is a Gay person, he should have an issue with going to this event.

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If he had refused to go, ( for personal reasons) the Board of Directors of which he serves, would probably fire him. You cannot have a CEO who makes COMPANY decisions based on personal feelings.
 
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Biden pardoned his family.
To protect them from the a political party that is obsequious to a president who is willing to pardon people who do violence to support his (Trump's) cause.

I don't like some of Biden's pardons, but I find Trump's much more troubling.

The message it sends: Don't worry about breaking the law to support me, even to the point of violence, because I can just pardon you if you get into any legal trouble.
 
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If he had refused to go, ( for personal reasons) the Board of Directors of which he serves, would probably fire him. You cannot have a CEO who makes COMPANY decisions based on personal feelings.
No they wouldn't have.
 
To protect them from the a political party that is obsequious to a president who is willing to pardon people who do violence to support his (Trump's) cause.

I don't like some of Biden's pardons, but I find Trump's much more troubling.

The message it sends: Don't worry about breaking the law to support me, even to the point of violence, because I can just pardon you if you get into any legal trouble.
I don’t care the reason why Biden pardoned his family, it’s that he did. Same for trump. It’s that he did. Biden is gone and trump doesn’t care about the optics.
 
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I don’t care the reason why Biden pardoned his family, it’s that he did. Same for trump. It’s that he did. Biden is gone and trump doesn’t care about the optics.
I do care. If, say, Marco Rubio had won this last election instead of Trump, I don't think Biden would have pardoned his family...
... unless he knows of crimes they may have committed, in which case that would be a problem either way. Maybe he would have pardoned Hunter anyways, I don't know.
 
I do care. If, say, Marco Rubio had won this last election instead of Trump, I don't think Biden would have pardoned his family...
... unless he knows of crimes they may have committed, in which case that would be a problem either way. Maybe he would have pardoned Hunter anyways, I don't know.
It sounds like Biden knew his family was guilty of crimes. Just goes to show the powerful live under different rules.
 
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