Err no. I've used the Spinn as well as the Cowon S9, both using AMOLED, and the screen isn't "superior," it's "different." The black is veeery nice and colors look pretty but otherwise the resolution and font clarity are vastly inferior to the new iPod Touch's and colors are, while pretty, terribly inaccurate. Even the latest Galaxy S phone's super AMOLED display suffers from similar problems to an extent. Plus I haven't even mentioned how jerky and slow their touch operation is compared to the iPod Touch's and how limited those devices are in functionality. If you're trying to convince people by comparing the Touch to those devices, you're doing it wrong, especially since the Spinn and the S9 were rather expensive devices for what they do.
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Err no. I've used the Spinn as well as the Cowon S9, both using AMOLED, and the screen isn't "superior," it's "different." The black is veeery nice and colors look pretty but otherwise the resolution and font clarity are vastly inferior to the new iPod Touch's and colors are, while pretty, terribly inaccurate. Even the latest Galaxy S phone's super AMOLED display suffers from similar problems to an extent. Plus I haven't even mentioned how jerky and slow their touch operation is compared to the iPod Touch's and how limited those devices are in functionality. If you're trying to convince people by comparing the Touch to those devices, you're doing it wrong, especially since the Spinn and the S9 were rather expensive devices for what they do.
Right. So it provides completely new features unseen in the previous version(cameras, gyro, mic, etc), 4 times the screen resolution, and the best mobile device chip Apple offers currently, and yet it's still 3.5 because it has the same amount of RAM and no IPS?
Using the same logic, the iPod Touch 2 was more like iPod Touch 1.2 and the iPod Touch 3 was more like iPod Touch 2.3(or 1.5
)You're wrong as I was not talking about it. I only stated there are cheaper devices with IPS or AMOLED screens, with limited functionality on other levels, though. Sorry, but I much prefer an AMOLED (even it's first gen incarnation) to any TN type of panel. Other features is something I was not talking about, my point was to show better screens are not reserved for the most expensive devices anymore.
Well, not exactly, as they were not as much reduced in features and quality to the iPhone as this years gen touchUsing the same logic, the iPod Touch 2 was more like iPod Touch 1.2 and the iPod Touch 3 was more like iPod Touch 2.3(or 1.5
Again, you're ignoring the important point. Those devices, the likes of the SPINN and S9, went with more expensive AMOLED because the devices had slower processors and inferior features. i.e. They were cheapening out in other areas. These companies are there to make money too, and if they included all the iPod Touch's features, they would've made cuts elsewhere or raised the prices.
And that's your personal preference to prefer a 480x272 AMOLED over a 960x640 TN LCD. Personally I much much prefer the TN, especially having actually used those AMOLED devices.
Well, not exactly, as they were not as much reduced in features and quality to the iPhone as this years gen touch
No this year's iPod Touch was reduced in specs, not features. This year's iPod touch is closer than any other year's Touch in terms of features to the Phone but further from specs. It's pretty sneaky of you to be twisting words like that.
good get, and shows just the kind of issues developers will run into more and more. having to branch code for differently speced devices is hardly ideal.
The big changes happen after skipping a device generation.
1st gen iPod touch: Nothing special.
2nd gen iPod touch: Thinner, volume hardware buttons, faster.
3rd gen iPod touch: Slightly faster.
4th gen iPod touch: Thinner, new volume buttons, camera on front, camera on back, video recording, built-in microphone, new display.
I feel sorry for the people who bought a 1st and 3rd generation iPod touch.
Wait, so just asking.
You would want an iPhone 4 with
-0.7mp camera
-LED TN "retina" display
-256mb of RAM
etc etc
then you'll be happy?
Since, if I can understand you correctly, you would prefer last gen to current gen touches, why not get an iPod Touch 3G, instead of 4G?
Heck, since you want the touch to be so similar to the iPhone, why not give the iPhone 64gb of memory too?
You would want an iPhone 4 with
-0.7mp camera
-LED TN "retina" display
-256mb of RAM
etc etc
then you'll be happy?
Since, if I can understand you correctly, you would prefer last gen to current gen touches, why not get an iPod Touch 3G, instead of 4G?
Heck, since you want the touch to be so similar to the iPhone, why not give the iPhone 64gb of memory too?
No, let's be realistic here. I knew the new touch would never be an exact copy of the iPhone4, but honestly I didn't expect it would be so much inferior as it turned out to be.
I'd wanted new touch to be
- some not the best, but decent 2, maybe 3mpix camera with autofocus and LED flash
- 512mb of ram
- IPS screen
That's it. These features are not really reserved for a 700$ device so stop bitching by saying it's only for an iPhone... Unfortunetly, the best features in iPhone4 has been so greatly reduced in touch 4gen, that it is no longer "an iPhone without a phone", not even close. The closest thing to iPhone was an iPod touch 3gen, of course compared to it's bigger brother of that time - iPhone 3GS. Now, we no longer have similar situation regarding touch 4 vs iPhone 4. Apple diversified those 2 products like never before.
I agree with you there about wanting a product that's value for money. I couldn't have given a rat's about the new iPod Touch having a camera, tbh. The only thing I would have been interested in as far as the new iPod Touch is concerned would have been RAM and storage space.
How can Apple claim that the new iPod Touch is value for money when it's clearly just nothing more than a slight upgrade from the last version, especially where the processor and the screen quality.
Thanks for the email address, I'll be sure to send Fuhrer Jobs a vitriolic-filled email to him ASAP!
[/sarcasm]It is simple. The iPod is declining in importance to Apple. It is the least important product line for Apple. iPhone is the most important with the most growth potential (and most competition). Apple will pull out all the stops to keep iPhone on par with the Android competition. The iPod touch, not so much.
iPod touch will start to diverge more and more from the iPhone. Just compare the new touch to the previous generations and stop comparing it to iPhone.
iPod touch will start to diverge more and more from the iPhone. Just compare the new touch to the previous generations and stop comparing it to iPhone.
Yep, I agree. When referring to the iPod Touch, stop saying that phrase...iPhone without the contract. It's NOT. That era is over.
Now it is an iPod Touch.
Is it worth it to have all of the options that it has in your pocket for $300(32GB). I say yes. Would it be worth it if it had a 2 or 3 MP camera and 512MB RAM.
YES
Someone tell the K
ng to stop saying, "iPhone without a Contract." He is simply wrong.
Now it is an iPod Touch.
Is it worth it to have all of the options that it has in your pocket for $300(32GB). I say yes. Would it be worth it if it had a 2 or 3 MP camera and 512MB RAM.
YES
Someone tell the K
ng to stop saying, "iPhone without a Contract." He is simply wrong.Well, let's not forget iPod is one of the Apple's biggest money-maker. I think they not declining iPod family, they're just making it more profitable by reducing cost prodution more and more each year.
It is Apple's smallest money-maker. About $1.3B of Apple's $15.7B revenue in the latest quarter, less than 10%. I speculate that margins are lower on the iPods, but don't know for sure. As the least important line of business, it gets the least amount of attention. iPod has served its purpose in resurrecting Apple, but at this point Apple has moved on. Innovate or die.
http://www.macworld.com/article/152825/2010/07/apple_3rdquarter_results.html
The iPod Touch may or may not give Apple its highest mark-up but it is about 41% of its total iOS devices sold. As more and more smartphones place ever increasing demands for bandwith - wifi will become a real player in mobile handheld computing. The iPT is positioned to take advantage of this niche market.
Even then, who else makes something like the iPod touch that is actually selling that well? I know there are a lot of "iPhone killers" and soon-to-arrive "iPad killers", but wouldn't this be a good market to create some more Android competition in? The best part is that the audience isn't looking to be locked to a cellular contract.
