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YS2003 said:
I am interested in a 23" ACD and I am wondering if Apple and LCD maker (LG Philips?) has fixed the 23" model's color tint and other quality anomaly issues. The 20" ACD I purchased almost a month ago is perfect and I am hooked to Apple's elegant display design (there is no vent which means no dust will get inside the chassis). Since my PBs cannot run a 30", a 23" ACD should work well. I heard so many posts on many forums about problems with the 23" model; but, I have not heard if that problem has been fixed.
Well, I may be lucky but I have noticed no color tint or quality issues with my new 23" ACD this weekend. I too was apprehensive. To the point that I spent an extra $159 for the CompUSA extended warranty just in case. I'm so glad I took the step and got this monitor. I usually have several app's open at a time when working on my 360° virtual tours and the 23" wide screen really makes it nice - that space combined with expose' anyways.
 
Cooknn said:
Well, I may be lucky but I have noticed no color tint or quality issues with my new 23" ACD this weekend. I too was apprehensive. To the point that I spent an extra $159 for the CompUSA extended warranty just in case. I'm so glad I took the step and got this monitor. I usually have several app's open at a time when working on my 360° virtual tours and the 23" wide screen really makes it nice - that space combined with expose' anyways.
Thanks for posting a feedback on your 23". I will go visit an Apple Store this week to check on its demo 23" in the store. So, it seems Apple has fixed that 23" model. I just need to make sure the one I am going to buy should be the recently stocked item (not the ones sitting at the back of the store for several weeks).

Is there a way you can check when the monitor is made?
 
YS2003 said:
Thanks for posting a feedback on your 23". I will go visit an Apple Store this week to check on its demo 23" in the store. So, it seems Apple has fixed that 23" model. I just need to make sure the one I am going to buy should be the recently stocked item (not the ones sitting at the back of the store for several weeks).

Is there a way you can check when the monitor is made?

I think that Apple has a pretty good turnover on the 23" ACD, that you should be alright. If your are concerned, you could try asking if they would allow you to boot-up the monitor prior to purchase.
 
Apple 23" vs. Dell 24"

The Apple 20" at education price of $699 is still a good value, but if you want that extra real estate, higher specifications, and a standard 3 year warranty, it's hard to ignore the Dell 24" for the price.

I hope all of you are taking full advantage of any possible corporate
or education discounts when you compare the Apple displays to the
Dell's.

You WILL NOT find the best prices on Dell displays without talking to
their small business and education reps directly.
Discounts will vary from 10%-35% off depending on eligibility.

Of course the Apple's are beautiful and hands down the best design,
but IF you qualify and play your cards right, you can quite literally
get TWO Dell 2405FPW 24" HD displays for the price of ONE Apple
23" HD display.
 
wdlove said:
I think that Apple has a pretty good turnover on the 23" ACD, that you should be alright. If your are concerned, you could try asking if they would allow you to boot-up the monitor prior to purchase.
Or he could buy it at CompUSA for the same price with a 21 Day no questions asked return policy. At least that's what they told me :p
 
Just ordered a 23"er! Can't wait to make my old 21" CRT as a secondary screen.

Question for those who have a 23" Apple LCD: how long is the monitor's cord?
 
I was at the Apple Store in Buffalo yesterday and picked up Tiger. I also checked on the 23" ACD to see if there is still a pink tint on the screen. The 23" ACD the store put out for store demo showed the pink tint! Maybe those display 23" ACD screens were old and are not the sample of the recently manufactured 23" ACD. But still, that pink tint really put me off.
 
Does anyone know anything about the rumor that Apple might put an hd tuner in their monitors in the future?
 
geeyesgee said:
Question for those who have a 23" Apple LCD: how long is the monitor's cord?
Without getting behind my desk to measure I would guess that it's 6'.
YS2003 said:
The 23" ACD the store put out for store demo showed the pink tint!
That's interesting. I don't see a pink tint on my 23" ACD. I'm still pinching myself that I was lucky enough to get one without any dead or stuck pixels :D
 
Multimedia said:

I have considered EyeTV. Think that it would be a neat option on a Mac. At the moment don't have a Mac that can handle it yet. My question though would be, wouldn't the HD tuner be superior in quality and ease of use if it were done by Apple? After all according to Steve this is the year of HD.
 
Dell 2405FPW 24" display Woot!

I just hooked up my new Dell 24" display today.

OH MY WOOTNESS! This is SO nice to work with.

Just watched my first WideScreen movie. I'm totally blown away!

No issues, just a beautiful display for about half the price
of the Apple 23".

I'll post photos as soon as I can.
 
FFTT said:
I just hooked up my new Dell 24" display today.

OH MY WOOTNESS! This is SO nice to work with.

Just watched my first WideScreen movie. I'm totally blown away!

No issues, just a beautiful display for about half the price
of the Apple 23".

I'll post photos as soon as I can.


I am torn. End of the year I want a big screen TV and plasma or a good LCD looks like the answer, but then again if I bouth a good CRT I could get one of these Dells as well... what t do...
 
MacWhispers said:
LCD displays are impacted by three different major performance factors: the panel, the driver circuitry, and, the backlight. While the widescreen Dells and the Apple displays use the same panels, each company uses its own unique driver circuitry, and their own CCFL backlights. And frankly Apple's utterly smokes the junk driver system in the Dell displays.

Anandtech seems to disagree with you. So, who do I believe: some random Apple-lover on some forum, or objective reviewer at Anandtech?

While the image-quality between the two seems similar (different yes, but neither is really any better than the other), the Dell-monitor does have superior inputs and lower price.

The contrast and black depth are visably inferior. Max brightness is lower on the Dell.

According to Anandtech, Dell is a bit brighter and ACD is. And while ACD has darkerk darks than Dell does, the Dell has whiter whites. All in all, the contrast was slightly better on the Dell. They mentioned that ACD looked a bit more "washed out" in movie-playback than the Dell did. So I guess it's safe to say that you are talking out of your ass.

In economics, there is an age old principle that goes, "There Is No Such Thing As A Free Lunch."

Maybe Dell simply has lower margins on their display when compared to Apple? They might cost more or less the same to make, but Apple might be trying to bring in mor profit from each unit, and that explains the higher price. It might not necessarily be due to Apple being better.

In electronics products, there is a reason why premium brands charge premium prices, and junk brands charge junk prices. I would have thought anyone experienced enough to be participating on this forum would have long since learned that lesson.

Why do I get the feeling that your way of thinking is "It's made by Apple, so it MUST be better!"?

When I invest in an LCD display (and, personally and through my company, I own about 20 of them), I expect to enjoy top notch performance from that product for several years into the future. My Apple displays have reliably delivered on that expectation.

Yes, the Apple-displays are good, and I don't think anyone here has been disputing that. Question has been whether the Dell unit is as good or better. According to reviews, the two have similar image-quality. But the Dell does have lower price and better inputs. Of course, Dell doesn't have that cool aluminium-casing, but that doesn't really make the display "better" as such.

Spend your money any way you wish. But, for the love of Pete... please realize the trash you are buying when you spend it on a junk price product from a discount brand like Dell.

Could you at least try to be a bit more objective? "It's Dell, so it must be crap! Anything Apple makes must be good!"
 
Evangelion said:
According to Anandtech, Dell is a bit brighter and ACD is. And while ACD has darkerk darks than Dell does, the Dell has whiter whites. All in all, the contrast was slightly better on the Dell. They mentioned that ACD looked a bit more "washed out" in movie-playback than the Dell did. So I guess it's safe to say that you are talking out of your ass.
I disagree with Anandtech on these issues. I've not worked with a 24" Dell, but I do have a 20" at the office and I now have a 23" ACD at home. The ACD is definitely brighter. It's so bright in fact, that I have to turn it down a bit. He's not talking out of his ass :eek:
 
Cooknn said:
I disagree with Anandtech on these issues. I've not worked with a 24" Dell, but I do have a 20" at the office and I now have a 23" ACD at home. The ACD is definitely brighter. It's so bright in fact, that I have to turn it down a bit. He's not talking out of his ass :eek:

The Anandtech article compares the Dell 20" to the Apple 20" - comparing the 20" Dell to the 23" ACD doesn't really get this discussion anywhere.
 
Rower_CPU said:
The Anandtech article comares the Dell 20" to the Apple 20" - comparing the 20" Dell to the 23" ACD doesn't really get this discussion anywhere.
My bad :eek: I only read the quote - not the article.
 
MacWhispers said:
Pop off the backs, and look at the electronics and assembly.
Exactly how do you do this, and doesn't this nullify the warranty if you do? I don't think it's a good idea to ask people to do this.
 
Evangelion said:
Anandtech seems to disagree with you. So, who do I believe: some random Apple-lover on some forum, or objective reviewer at Anandtech?

Why do I get the feeling that your way of thinking is "It's made by Apple, so it MUST be better!"?

Could you at least try to be a bit more objective? "It's Dell, so it must be crap! Anything Apple makes must be good!"

I think that the Apple display is better, to me it means quality. Why support a rival to Apple. The display also compliments the Power Mac. My experience has been that running an Apple to Apple, just works better. Still remember the problems that I had with a Sony. The connector could become very fragile at times.
 
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Nice pictures FFTT. The Dell not bad, but not convinced. What is the monitor next to the Dell and then the next PC?
 
The Apple Difference

My workspace.
I waited a year before my financial situation was right to purchase that ACD. Worth the wait ;)
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