I really want 23" ACD but I a finding it hard when I can get a 24" Dell for only £290, about half the price of the ACD.
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Apple Cinema Display Update E.T.A?
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It's great for USB users, but if you need FW the ports aren't that much of a turn on. If it's priced $400 less than the ACD then it's definitely worth a look.
Is it made out of plastic and does it creak?
It's Aluminum and Glass (base) and it does not creak, It looks really nice! Normally it costs more but you can get it cheaper than the apple on sale, Take a look!
I was strongly considering this display. I also think it's a very nice looking panel with many ports (DVI, HDMI, Displayport, etc.) and a compact flash reader which is an attractive feature to me.
I was ready to purchase but many early adopters are complaining of a serious backlight bleeding problem with this panel. It sounds like Dell might be working this issue, as some of those with the issue were requested to return the product directly to Dell engineers. There is also about a 4-6 week delay on this panel now, so hopefully they are correcting the issue.
Also, some have mentioned that the brightness of this display can be overly excessive, even when lowering the brightness to its lowest level.
I really want to like this panel, but the early reports have really discouraged me.
as far as i know, their update will be squeezed in somewhere if anytime this year. i mean the displays were built pretty future proof, their panels and quality were and still are ahead of most other premium and consumer based displays.
in terms of pixels your right, but responce time on apple displays is a pitiful
16ms. SHARP has had displays with 8,6,and even 4ms for nearly 2 years.
you can pick up a 40" 1080p set with 6ms for around $1500. why
hasnt asked sharp to make their displays is something beyond my comprehension.The set im talking about is Sharps "d62U" heres a link http://www.sharpusa.com/products/AQUOScompare/0,2335,,00.html
Because Apple displays are IPS panels. The fast response times you're talking about are TN panels. They are two entirely different classes of monitors. Most people would thank goodness that Sharp doesn't make Apple's panels.
Samsung 24" Syncmaster
This is a great deal... I think. Its 24" supports HDCP and 1080p and has 3000:1 contrast. For the size and price I love mine.
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1194018
This is a great deal... I think. Its 24" supports HDCP and 1080p and has 3000:1 contrast. For the size and price I love mine.
http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.aspx?EDC=1194018
IPS / S-IPS: what Apple uses, and expensive NECs (and Dell for the 30"). The best.
PVA: Most monitors. Good to very good.
TN: The crap. Unless you play games and fast response time is paramount. Found in cheaper monitors.
"I really want 23" ACD but I am finding it hard when I can get a 24" Dell for only £290, about half the price of the ACD."
Translation: I really want a good monitor but I am finding it hard when I can get a crap monitor for half the price.
PVA: Most monitors. Good to very good.
TN: The crap. Unless you play games and fast response time is paramount. Found in cheaper monitors.
"I really want 23" ACD but I am finding it hard when I can get a 24" Dell for only £290, about half the price of the ACD."
Translation: I really want a good monitor but I am finding it hard when I can get a crap monitor for half the price.
Buit in iSight...good Lord. It's redic that a $1200 iMac has a built in iSight and an $1800 display doesn't have one.
Many offices don't allow monitors with cameras built in for security reasons. Hence pro-monitors tend not to have them built in. In simple terms, the choice of an ACD in one of monitor color primarily. For me the thing that I use most in a monitor is the panel itself which I find myself looking at all day, hence personally I find it an important consideration. Others may prefer an iSight, extra inputs, a faster display for games etc. For what it offers: a 23" S-IPS monitor with outstanding color fidelity and reasonable speed, the ACD is good value.
Also those aren't professional display's they are TVs. So, they are TN panels and they aren't as color specific as the ACDs. The cheaper Dells and HP monitors that use the same (30") or similar (24" with same rez as ACD 23") are a good comparison, but even they tend to be a little off on color accuracy.
If you are willing to sacrifice a bit of accuracy, or just want a secondary monitor, then they are great choices.
Amen, compared to the other displays like it from LaCie and NEC especially. I hope and somewhat know Apple won't make the mistake of putting a card reader in the ACDs, but three FW ports would be welcomed.
Still waiting patiently, or rather impatiently! C'mon Apple, we want new monitors!
- Fast response times like Doublesight's IPS panel.
- USB, FireWire 400, and 800 hubs.
- Speakers!
- iSight and microphone (optional?)
- Thinner case.
- 25.5 inch.
- Grade A panel with polarizer.
I'd pay $1400 for that!
- Fast response times like Doublesight's IPS panel.
- USB, FireWire 400, and 800 hubs.
- Speakers!
- iSight and microphone (optional?)
- Thinner case.
- 25.5 inch.
- Grade A panel with polarizer.
I'd pay $1400 for that!
Speakers? No thanks. Save me space on the form factor and I'll stick with my Z-5500s please.
I agree, skip the speakers. I don't want a consumer case with a pro panel stuck inside. Maybe Apple should just split their displays into two groups... the Mac Panel Pro and the Mac Panel.
That way I can pay for what I need, and not iSights, speakers, and USB ports. And they only way I want to see a 26" monitor is if it has the same or more resolution than the 30" displays. I don't want the rez of the 23" stretched to fill a 26 or 27 inch panel.
Ain't that the truth. And I certainly wouldn't want to pay an extra $600 for a coarser image.
Amigalander, they have one with iSight, speakers, microphone and slim profile.. it's called an iMac, dude.
The ACD is a pro grade pure monitor. The thought of some cheap speakers chunked into an ACD makes me cringe whether thats an over reaction or not.
Digital Skunk, or whomever may know: What is the highest quality screen Apple has ever used to date?
Back in late 2006 I was at CompUSA and saw a current 23" ACD next to a 24" inch White iMac (when the White 24 iMac had just arrived). I swore for a second that the 24" white iMac had a more vivid, quality screen than the 23" ACD right beside it.
Does the panel in the White imac 24" compete with the quality of the ACD 23"? (I don't care about the new glossy 24s). Thanks!
The ACD is a pro grade pure monitor. The thought of some cheap speakers chunked into an ACD makes me cringe whether thats an over reaction or not.
Digital Skunk, or whomever may know: What is the highest quality screen Apple has ever used to date?
Back in late 2006 I was at CompUSA and saw a current 23" ACD next to a 24" inch White iMac (when the White 24 iMac had just arrived). I swore for a second that the 24" white iMac had a more vivid, quality screen than the 23" ACD right beside it.
Does the panel in the White imac 24" compete with the quality of the ACD 23"? (I don't care about the new glossy 24s). Thanks!
I work for a retailer that sells Apple and although we're still receiving ADCs regularly they've slowed considerably in April. I have no clue when/if they're on their way but (although it's a wide time frame) I cannot imagine Apple going past this August without a refresh to the Cinemas, so I'm going to commit to end of august, If nothing by then, I'll buy the current 30.
You should check more carefully. NEC winning 2008 Macworld Best in Show was not by chance.
I know, I would go with the ACD because of those ports mainly. NEC is the only company I would go with if Apple got out of the display game. Then it would be LaCie if I didn't want a 30" display.
As for the 24" in the iMac, it's the same quality as the 23" as far as I know. The only difference is the rez which is the same in both monitors. So both are HD, but one is just an inch bigger. Contrary to (misguided & unpopular) belief, the 24" iMac glossy or matte is good for color specific editing... you just have to put it somewhere there isn't much glare.
Are LED backlit panels 20" and larger still expensive?
Would not see HDCP/HDMI on the next revision-as it appears no desktop or laptop Macs have HDMI ports, only the Apple TV.
Would not see HDCP/HDMI on the next revision-as it appears no desktop or laptop Macs have HDMI ports, only the Apple TV.
Yeah, it took me a minute but I caught it in time and edited the name
You're disgusted with me because I want speakers in an Apple monitor? Don't you think that's a little harsh? haha. I have my analog audio split into 2. One goes to my monitor speakers, one goes to my decent analog receiver. I don't always want my receiver on for the loud boomy sound. Sometimes I just want the convenience of monitor audio, no matter how crappy.
Maybe Digital Skunk is right. Let's think about the possibility of having 2 lines of monitors: Pro and consumer. As a Pro, you would want no iSight or speakers, or microphone, or hub. But as a consumer, I DO want all those features PLUS I would want a pro panel. Which compromise do you think is more reasonable? The pro getting an iSight and speakers which they don't have to use, or the consumer getting a crappy panel?
Not that Apple is going to do anything so silly anyways. Like you said, they already have the "consumer" iMacs.
Almost sure that NEC 2490...SV price you referred, has spectraview software + colormeter included.