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Well, they should try gaming for a few hours then, that 3D one they demonstrated in the keynote. I would call that a real world test.
I strongly suspect Apple knows better than you how to test their own chips...
This actually sounds way better than my 6s plus with Samsung chip...
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Your numbers mean nothing... A lot of factors in the equation
I have a Samsung A9 6S and got 8:50 usage time at 16% left yesterday with 56% of that being a game (Star Wars Commander). Not going to return this phone. The screen is near perfect, and in my normal usage its at least as good as the 6 I had prior battery wise if not a little better.

Yes this forum is full of herd mentality based around click bait type reporting. MR has some good info and other times feed into the herd mentality aspect.
You are right. No reason to return a perfectly working phone....
Samsung is still one of the biggest (thus best) providers of microchips. Apple should go 100% samsung on this. Nobody want's cheap crap-chips in the phone.
why Samsung only ? TSMC surely isn't worse than Samsung (actually they seem to be slightly better in this case)

It's a rubbish premium smartphone though.
Maybe your defective unit was.... But the iPhone 6+ still is a powerful premium smartphone
 
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Is TMSC and Samsung random across all models? Ie all 128 get T all 16 get s and the 64 are split Perhaps?
 
For a better one
you don't know if it is better.
Actually you could end up with a phone with a poor battery (or display, or NAND, or whatever....) but within limits and thus a worse phone that the one you had returned...

You are a good example of the hysteria typical of this forum
 
No, all statistical evidence proves you're wrong, nice try to defend Apple.

What stat evidence, nobody's really doing lab work, under normal loads, on hundreds of chip with the same bin.

Apple just has to give a performance that's higher than they advertised, they do; if they promise X and more and that's what deliver, then they've fulfilled their contractual obligations.

Everything else is just gravy and people can't complain they didn't have get; they didn't buy this thing for gravy.

BTW, even chips from the same factory have a high variances.

The funny thing is that Apple's chip always die earlier than others in games in tests because they don't throttle.. By that token battery life would be "bad".... But, in keeping game chugging at full clip, instead of going real slow (and lasting awhile) is actually a good thing.

Another thing, are those chips keeping their performance during the whole test, are they doing the same work? Should be easy to verify this.

Running a benchmark through a loop is something that stresses the CPU even worse than gaming, so very far from anything
 
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Running a benchmark through a loop is something that stresses the CPU even worse than gaming, so very far from anything

If you are talking about Geekbench Battery test, I think 3D gaming is more taxing, since in GB battery test Cpu even idles, and workload for 6S is about 30% total.
 
so...basically "you're testing it wrong."

It's not how people test the battery performance in the lab, and it's not the way you use your phone in daily life.

Battery life is affected by lots of issues, and one of them is temperature. Intensive usage would result in high temperature, and the performance of both chips and batteries would vary case by case. We called it 'tolerance' if the difference is around 5% operating in high temperature corner. You can't make any meaningful conclusion based on such tiny amount of samples, especially they're test under extra-ordinary conditions, without systematic procedures.

So the answer is yes, you're testing it wrong, scientifically.
 
I don't know about the 6 Plus. But my 6s Plus' battery isn't as impressive as I was led to believe. I do know I have the Samsung chip. I'm currently at 15hr 45 min standby and about 10hr 30 min of usage. And 24% remaining. My usage includes all day Bluetooth on the AppleWatch and about 2 hours of Bluetooth audio playing podcasts, Facebook, texting and various surfing.

Does this sound about right or a bit low? This is certainly better than my iPhone 6.
Sounds right. 10-11 hours of usage time is what I used to get on my 6 Plus.
 
I've got a 128gb 6s+ with a TSMC chip. I've noticed my battery life is slightly better than my previous 128gb 6+. Ive not managed to run my battery out in a day of fairly heavy use yet, normally around 10% when I go to bed around 11ish. Used to find my 6+ would die around 10 previously. (Those are days when I'm travelling on trains a lot so consequently hammering my phone)
 
When someone tests 3D gaming and TSMC lasts 1-2 hours longer, I wonder if Apple will then a make a statement: "Our users typically only play less CPU-intensive Solitaire". :p

Apple expects users to only stare at the clock all day with their iphones.

you don't know if it is better.
Actually you could end up with a phone with a poor battery (or display, or NAND, or whatever....) but within limits and thus a worse phone that the one you had returned...

Do you hear yourself? You're talking about a 1000euros phone!
 
Definitely one of Apple's weaker efforts. Underpowered and under ram-ed. Much like the iPad 3.

Still the only iPhone where every single unit I tried at various Apple stores exhibited jitter in animations.
every single unit I tried, even outside of Apple Stores, worked fine...
Whining and complaining are typical activities of this forum. In the real world people are enjoying their iPhone 6+
Do you hear yourself? You're talking about a 1000euros phone!
a 1000 euros phone (actually it is 889€ here) working as advertised.
So what's your point ?
 
One day it will be revealed that the Samsung chip is slightly faster and everyone will do an about face. Apple just can't win. :rolleyes:
 
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every single unit I tried, even outside of Apple Stores, worked fine...
Whining and complaining are typical activities of this forum. In the real world people are enjoying their iPhone 6+

Thats nice. I have no reason to fabricate claims of dodgy performance. I don't own a 6+ and have no desire to. Show me a 6+ that has no jitter and I'll believe you. Maybe you don't perceive them. I see no reason why Apple's 6+'s at multiple stores should exhibit similar issues with jitter, unless it was a systematic issues (albeit a small one) due to the 6+ not having the hardware to cope wiht that massive and hi resolution display.

Fanboism and justifying problems with Apple products are also typical activities, though you are also joining in by whining at people who question Apple over anything.

People can still enjoy their 6+ even if it jitters. I enjoy my iPad 2, that doesn't take away from the fact it runs slow. That however is not a justification for Apple being cheap and under speccing a phone that should have at the very least had 2GB of ram. (Like how the iPad Air 1 should have had 2GB of ram, and the iPad 3 should have had a better GPU and CPU to cope with the Retina display)

When people pay inordinate amounts of money for a phone (6S) they expect the best possible battery life etc, and it seems the Samsung model doesn't deliver that.
 
One day it will be revealed that the Samsung chip is slightly faster and everyone will do an about face. Apple just can't win. :rolleyes:

wasn't there some developer saying it could be improved through an iOS update, from insanely mac or somewhere, didn't sound very realistic to me but people using beta versions of iOS with a Samsung chip have reported hugely improved battery life so maybe there is truth to it, or maybe it's just an overall battery life improvement. still it could be worse, my Nexus 5 gets 50 minutes of screen on time before it is flat :p
 
Both issues had been proven to be overblown, at best a mere circumstantial.
Maybe bend gate, but antennagate was not overblown. Every single GSM iPhone 4 had the problem, and touching the spot caused the signal to drop 20+dB immediately. Basically meant a call would drop in anything less than 5 bars. Was verifiable in field test mode.
 
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