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Well I for one am very happy that Apple responded I don't think that what they said is 100% accurate but I think it is close meaning I think 2 to 3% for light phone users is probably the truth. The fact remains that if you are playing a graphic intensive video game for example you may see a bigger difference in the two phones.

But most of all their reply does make me feel less anxious about exchanging my phone I believe I have made up my mind and I will exchange for a 6S plus I don't really like the size of the plus but since I have bought the Apple Watch I am just not happy with the battery I am getting from the 6S if the battery is this poor on day one I can't imagine being happy two years from now with it…

I truly believe placing a smaller battery in the phone was not smart
 
Is there an easy way I can determine which version of the chip is in my iPhone 6s?
 
Lol what is normal usage? Non high cpu speed tasks? So playing a game is not a normal usage? Hmm Apple stop denying it... Next iphone will have only one chip manufacturer but this will absolutely not related to this story... Anyway I'm happy to wait for the 7 :)
 
Funny, two weeks ago nobody with a Samsung chip had a battery life issue. Hell, they were celebrating because they had a Samsung chip. Now they all have "issues". This forum has jumped the shark.

samsung chip owners peaked too soon claiming their chip was better, they should have waited for the real evidence to emerge which proves tsmc is superior
 
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These Youtube test vids are heavily flawed. There is one thing really important if you want to test the battery life of 2 different new phones: passed charging cycles have to be identical. You all know the first couple of days the battery sucks on all iPhones. After you use it for 1-2 weeks, it starts to get better. So they may have tested a 1 week old Samsung vs. a 3 week old TSMC. These tests have to be 100% scientific, if they want to be authentic.
 
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Has anyone considered that we might have just witnessed the real world limits of lithography? The 14nm process, while theoretically more energy efficient (due to transistor size) might actually be less efficient due to leakage. Could it be possible that 16nm is going to be the real world limit, and the 7nm goal will never be realized (as a viable success)?

After reading up a bit on this stuff (I'm interested in future CPU and GPU products) I've seen a few times that the 14nm and 16nm nodes are actually pretty much identical. Basically all the gates are slightly rectangular, its just that some companies measure the short length, and others measure the long.

Intel and other companies have come to the conclusion that we are hitting the real world limits of Silicon lithography. Intel are not planning on creating 7nm Silicon, 10nm is the last. But once lithography companies decide on what comes next (which may well be a series of different materials starting with simple stuff and becoming more exotic like graphene/nanotubes and single atom transistors) they can probably drop at least another order of magnitude.
 
Did anyone expect Apple to confirm this (without a lawsuit)? Lol.

Talk time: Up to 24 hours on 3G
Internet use: Up to 12 hours on 3G, up to 12 hours on LTE, up to 12 hours on Wi‑Fi
HD video playback: Up to 14 hours
Audio playback: Up to 80 hours
Standby time: Up to 16 days


These are the battery claims for the 6s+. Does anyone care to challenge them? Everyone with a samsung cpu stop whining and do some actual scientific tests. You can find here how they perform the battery testing (http://www.apple.com/iphone/battery.html). However, I don't know if you noticed but they say "up to". In a way, "Up to 24 hours on 3G" is the same as "Up to 2 years on 3G". The actual value is not advertised, only the upper limit (cheap marketing scheme).

Nowadays the Apple quality seems to be a legend, whispered by the elderly at camp fires. We're paying premium prices for medium quality phones which have all sorts of problems, from backlight bleeds to finger burning and now to battery hungry cpus. These topics and conversations should not exists for a 1000euros phone! You don't hear people with Lambos complaining. I wonder when will people smarten up and start buying something else? This is the first year when the iPhone 6s is not the best kid on the block. The next years will be interesting.
 
Apple is systematically murdering Samsung that too by giving live examples!!
 
so...basically "you're testing it wrong."

Let's see:
"your doing it wrong"
"---gate"
and on and on and on.
You guys are pretty smart, aren't you? Can't you come up with something new? I mean, your old and worn out and meaningless sayings are becoming monotonous and soporific.
 
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True as it may, I'm still quite happy to have gotten the TMSC model :). Even 3% can be critical when you need it.
 
Cripple-Chip-Gate®

Sounds horrible and tasty at the same time.
 
Does the Geekbench 3 battery test even attempt to focus on the processor?? If not, then it's just that, a battery test, not a processor efficiency test.

This is like commenting on fuel efficiency by getting 2 cars, albeit identical, filling up until it clicks and then idling them until they die. Not very scientific IMO.
 
Well as long as this is true Ill keep my Samsung. It takes me hours to restore everything, Apple watch pairing, Spotify downloads, adding Apple pay cards, all the passwords, re logging into apps etc. Not to mention I have a $35 screen protector perfectly installed. Battery life is great. Even if I try to exchange there is a 60% chance of getting a Samsung again.

I'm confident Apple is telling the truth and has tested this. I agree reading this forums can really stir up a Sh** storm and Pi**ing contests.
 
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