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I used iMazing for OS X to determine which A9 chip I have.

6s Plus 128 Silver w/ -- TSMC --

Will I notice the difference? Probably not.
 
The fact that Apple acknowledged this speaks volumes. There is a real issue out there.

I cannot believe how some people here blindly believe every single word said by Apple.
Basically, it's the iPhone 4 antenna-gate all over again!
Yes, maybe browsing the Internet and listening to the music would show the so-called 2-3% difference, but what about playing graphically intensive games or filming high-res video?!
Geekbench perfectly demonstrates that the Samsung chip would last less time. In some cases the difference is way greater than "2-3%".
I'm more than sure that when the supply constrains loosen up, they will phase out the Samsung chips entirely.
 
Apple's statement on real world usage reflects what recent YouTube tests have revealed.

You guys really glossed over the details of that YouTube video test. You state the percent differences at the end of your article even.

In these specific usage patterns shown above, battery life differences between the two processors ranged from 6% to 11%.

(That second figure should be 12%, btw because (62%-55%)/((62%+55%)/2) * 100% = 12% not 11%. 6% to 11% difference is a far cry from Apple's stated 2-3%. Come on guys, don't be a parrot for Apple PR -- use some critical thinking skills.
 
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True as it may, I'm still quite happy to have gotten the TMSC model :). Even 3% can be critical when you need it.
and yet you wouldn't have given it a second thought if you didn't know that two different chips existed. o_O
 
The fact they are denying this just makes me even more certain Samsung-gate is real.
Looks like they are confirming it, not denying it. They are just stating that the actual percentage difference is not as much as previously tested.
 
So basically there's an issue, that Samsung processors are not very energy-effective. Apple states, that in real-world usage scenarios battery will be used for screen, radio and other things while processor will mostly idle, so difference between those processors won't make much difference in overall power consumption. That makes sense, but problem is still here and for people who do use their processors a lot, Samsung CPU is a bad option. Gaming with heavy graphics probably is one of these use-cases.
 
Coming from a regular iPhone 6, I expected to be blown away by the 6S Plus battery, I have not been. It runs down fairly fast.

I don't think this is a big issue, at least both chips are fast! Still, I think one would prefer not to have the Samsung chip, which is the opposite of what people wanted last week. ha.
 
Um, Apple didn't say which design was better performing, we're just assuming from very rough tests that the Sammy one is better.

The guys at Anandtech are doubling down on their battery testing for the deep dive of the 6S's and hopefully sourcing at least a couple of each SoC model to test against.
 
I wonder what will make people to bitch about the iPhone 7, probably the new design.
 
Much a do about nothing....
Unreal how the desperate competition is again spreading fud, at a launch of the new iphone..

Thats all it is !
 
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Unfortunately this won't stop people from repeatedly talking about this. The reason so many people argue over battery life is because each of us uses our iPhone in different ways throughout the day. Some take more photos, some shoot more videos, some watch lots of video, some browse the web a lot, some game, some do a mix of everything, and others primarily use it for checking work email and calendars. TSMC chips might be slightly better, but the average user won't notice it. Furthermore iOS now has a low power mode to help when needed.

Sounds like you have a Samsung chip :)
 
Has anyone considered that we might have just witnessed the real world limits of lithography? The 14nm process, while theoretically more energy efficient (due to transistor size) might actually be less efficient due to leakage. Could it be possible that 16nm is going to be the real world limit, and the 7nm goal will never be realized (as a viable success)?
In the current form I think that is exactly what we just saw. I also think apple will be shifting that order from Samsung for all future chip production. We have read constantly about tsmc bending over backward for Apple maybe they finally bend clean over
 
If Apple hadn't said anything I would have thought that it's an issue. But now that Apple did say something I think that it's an issue!
Welcome to the MacRumors forums, where Apple is wrong unless they're wrong, and then they're really wrong!

Oh, and Steve would have never, you're *x*ing it wrong, yellow screens are defects, every version of iOS is the worst ever until the next one comes out and it becomes the best ever, etc.

The list would be longer, but I have a Samsung chip so my battery is about to die! :rolleyes:
 
The difference is minimal. It's not as bad as when Apple had different ssd in the MacBook Air. The toshiba was running half as fast as the Samsung. I don't think Apple did anything.
 
Let's see if chipgate dies down in a week, or does the fact that Apple addressed it blows up in their face. Could go either way.
 
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"Certain manufactured lab tests which run the processors with a continuous heavy workload until the battery depletes are not representative of real-world usage"

Unless your real-world usage is using intensive apps, watching videos, or playing games.
 
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