man, the 2012 Mac mini, their best mini still, will be obsolete before its replaced...... nice work Tim!
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Apple Classifies 2011 Mac Mini as Obsolete
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It’s really hard for Apple to release a MacMini after people buying that $1000 iPhone. For Timmy that just a waste of his resources for a little profit. Unless somebody is willing to donate their time for a side project. Besides declaring it obsolescence without replacement is over. RIP MacMini, nice knowing you and thank you for introducing me the OS X that brought me to iPods and iPhones and iPads and more Macs. But I have a confession I might start regretting this long journey in the near future.
Look at this for what a Mini could be... not sure how to cool it, but Apple has good engineers! Two cores straight to 18, anyone?
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11980/the-asrock-x299e-itx-ac-motherboard-review-mighty-mini
https://www.anandtech.com/show/11980/the-asrock-x299e-itx-ac-motherboard-review-mighty-mini
There is no external dvd or blue ray for the mac? We have 2 official apple external dvd drives.One of the reasons I refuse to get rid of my now obsolete Mac Pro is that there is no Mac model where you can put in your own DVD collection that you purchased and make a digital copy of it, which is totally legal. They've just made it technically impossible by removing the media drives from everything. I guess the Mac Mini was just too ideal for this.
Why should I have to rebuy all my movies with digital copies from Apple in sometimes lower quality?
No one has ever quite explained this to me to make any sense. I refuse to comply. It reminds me of the infamous Apple 1984 commercial about Macintosh.
When you put up restrictions, you just induce and help pirating.
I would love to see a Mac Mini with a Blu-Ray player, but that'll never happen. Too much "Bag O' Hurt" as Steve Jobs famously said. So I'll just find another way.
Apple is slowly driving me away. I can't lie.
Did someone at Apple drag into the trash the master files for production of the whole Mac line up?
Updates are slower and less substantial each year.
Apple is on the go slow, and it's a disgrace.
New Macs now that make us go
Wake up and smell the coffee... The Apple of today don't want to be bothered with Macs. It is a tiny part of their business (ironically built on the pedigree of Macs). The Jobs legacy and the diehard Mac fans are an inconvenient thorn in the sides of Cook et al, despite what they say. If you ask me (yes, I know you didn't) they would ditch Macs tomorrow without a second thought, but they know the negativity that would surround the media coverage is still a bit more than even their team of spin doctors can deal with.
Don't forget they removed the discrete graphics option too, so it's effectively sans-genitalia.
I recently purchased a 2012 quad core i7 Mini and it‘s still faster than your current offer, Mister Cook. I‘d love to see it become obsolete next year, but I‘m afraid for different reasons. Why not sell a new and updated desktop ?
My late model 2014 mac mini hardly functions. I've called AppleCare and taken it into the local Apple store and they say it's fine. If fine means it takes 10 minutes to start and new apps might open in 2-3 minutes hen I guess so.... would love to see new models and maybe a fix for mine.
Boom! Ouch.
Opened this thread specifically to see this comment.
I would love a updated Mac mini. Instead, Apple would prefer to sell me a more-expensive iMac. Except I don't want another iMac. So, we're at a stalemate. I'm waiting to give Apple my money, but they don't want to take it...
I think it's a cyclical relationship: Apple rarely upgrade them because few people buy them, yet few people buy them because Apple rarely upgrade them. I'd like to see better specifications on Macs, just to please those people who are spec-obsessed. Apple has enough margin where they could include top-end components, even only as BTO, and not raise prices significantly.
One of the reasons I refuse to get rid of my now obsolete Mac Pro is that there is no Mac model where you can put in your own DVD collection that you purchased and make a digital copy of it, which is totally legal. They've just made it technically impossible by removing the media drives from everything. I guess the Mac Mini was just too ideal for this.
Why should I have to rebuy all my movies with digital copies from Apple in sometimes lower quality?
No one has ever quite explained this to me to make any sense. I refuse to comply. It reminds me of the infamous Apple 1984 commercial about Macintosh.
I would love to see a Mac Mini with a Blu-Ray player, but that'll never happen. Too much "Bag O' Hurt" as Steve Jobs famously said. So I'll just find another way.
Apple is slowly driving me away. I can't lie.
While a 4k BluRay drive would be nice, I just don't see it happening. It'll cut too much into the iTunes Store. Sad, considering BluRay tends to have higher quality and better extras. However, I have found an iOS app, Vudu, that lets me scan the barcodes of DVDs I own, and let me buy a streaming version online fr $2 for SD, $5 for HD. It doesn't have every movie, but it does sync with iTunes. iTunes link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/vudu-movies-tv/id487285735?mt=8
Phil and Tim are full of it when they say it "an important product". Otherwise it would not be behind by 5 generations of technology upgrades.
No. They have released newer versions of the Mac Mini since this model. That, and five years since this model was discontinued, makes this particular model obsolete.
BTW, all computer hardware manufacturers that I know of do this, Apple did not invent this. Clock starts ticking after a model is discontinued. Why? Because keeping spare parts on hand to perform repairs is expensive and there needs to be some guidance to the purchaser. I remember seeing a server discontinued before we received delivery which meant by the time we received it there was less than 5 years left on the clock. And it was not an Apple server.
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CEO Cook, declaring a model both "important part of the lineup" and "obsolete" simultaneously, then supposedly obsoleted himself.
Depart that idiot.
Depart that idiot.
Update it with Gemini Lake for a small capable HTPC with HEVC and VP9 4K HDR10 60fps hardware decoding. Successor to Apollo Lake...
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157728
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157728
This is what most here don't understand. It doesn't make financial sense for Apple to invest in updating their desktops because they simply don't sell a lot. Desktop computers as a whole (Dell, HP, etc included) have seen big drops in sales in the past years and continue to drop. It's not smart to invest a lot of money in a market that continues to shrink, when you could instead invest in stuff like iPhones which continue to grow.
In addition, unlike smartphones, people update desktops far far less frequently. Very few people will update their desktop every year, like they will their phone. Again, it makes less and less sense to invest resources in a machine that won't sell in volume the way they can other devices they invest resources in and won't be re-purchased nearly as frequently.
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The guy that has lead Apple to their greatest profitability and growth in history? Anyone with any business sense knows Cook has been a spectacular CEO by most every measure. There's almost nothing he could do to be removed at this point, short of something completely catastrophic.
Spot on. My Mac mini 2012 cost less than my iPhone X ..... as long as we are going to buy iPhones, Apple not wasting their time on macs.... people upgrade their iPhones each year, my 2012 Mac mini I'm still using ....
Apple sells, whatever great or abysmal its products are. That's hardly a CEO's accomplishment. Schiller/Forstall/Schmidt/Ballmer could have run that rally. But Cook was chosen - supposedly a provisioning genius. Well, what provisioning do we see with the Cook launches (HomePod, AirPower, Airpods) It's mostly desperate amateurism, currently. He's supposed to provision (or supply better geniuses who provision)
Sleep along.
This was the last best mini Apple made. User-swappable RAM, dedicated non-Intel GPU, FW800. I LOOOOVE my 2011 mini.
Hopefully, if Apple does the modular Mac correctly, there will be no need for a new mini.
Hopefully, if Apple does the modular Mac correctly, there will be no need for a new mini.
Mine with SSD and additional RAMs, still running really well, don't see much difference between the 2011 vs 2014. The only thing bothers me is the speed of USB2.0 transfer from a USB device.
Apple has provided software support for machines on the "obsolete" list. The "obsolete" list just lets them plan on not stocking components in Apple stores and repair centers for those machines. Its basically a means to remove parts from their production / stock list. I believe my late-2009 27-inch iMacs have been obsolete for a couple of years and both run High Sierra.
BTW.... fun fact about the 2011 Mac mini (which I do own).... It had a Thunderbolt port, but NO USB-3. Apple was really late to the USB-3 party as they tried to push Thunderbolt as a standard first. It was not until 2012 that the Mac mini got USB-3.