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Apple stand for "Less For More" now. And as they release increasingly reduced featured products for more than they cost last version - their user base clamour for more. It's crazy. No other company would get away with it and last. But Apple always do. And they know it. So why change a "winning" formula?
 
Mine's crawling nowadays... good for storing media but not too much beyond that.
Why?

Perhaps the HD is getting a bit old, and is having to do multiple retries to get things done.

Might look into something like SMARTtools to see what the drive health is like. You might be surprised...
 
One of the reasons I refuse to get rid of my now obsolete Mac Pro is that there is no Mac model where you can put in your own DVD collection that you purchased and make a digital copy of it, which is totally legal. They've just made it technically impossible by removing the media drives from everything. I guess the Mac Mini was just too ideal for this.

Why should I have to rebuy all my movies with digital copies from Apple in sometimes lower quality?
No one has ever quite explained this to me to make any sense. I refuse to comply. It reminds me of the infamous Apple 1984 commercial about Macintosh.

When you put up restrictions, you just induce and help pirating.

I would love to see a Mac Mini with a Blu-Ray player, but that'll never happen. Too much "Bag O' Hurt" as Steve Jobs famously said. So I'll just find another way.

Apple is slowly driving me away. I can't lie. :(

I agree with not having to re-buy content you own, but can you not purchase an external drive?
 
I own a MacMini and am typing on it as we speak. Love the thing. Sure, I get the beachball on occasion, but High Sierra actually helped this baby out and runs smoother since Sierra believe it or not.

For what I do and use my Mac for - it does the job right now, but I guess I'm now in the market to replace her. Looking at an iMac next....

I would like to use Handoff and other applicable features in tandem with my iPad Air 2 and iPhone X.
 
RIP—was a great idea. Guess making all-in-one desktop iMacs and standalone towers is a more lucrative business model.
 
Hmmm, lots of comments about Apple abandoning the Mac line here but in the alternate reality that I live in Apple has released new MacBook Pros and iMacs this year plus should be releasing an iMac Pro soon. Apple has also committed to a new Mac Pro. They are officially supporting eGPUs for those who have specific graphics needs and are actually talking about AR and VR support in their software and hardware. I like my reality much better than the one most of the posters here seem to be living in.

Ok, gotta go back to a much happier place...
 
Still own a 2012 mini (upgraded to 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD). Very nice machine that runs everything I throw at it. Haven't upgraded beyond 10.12.6 Sierra as High Sierra is a total disaster and APFS makes normal tasks slower, not faster. So the mini will stay right where it is until Apple provides a decent mini upgrade - as accessible and upgradeable as my current mini. Obviously, this won't happen as Apple's vision of the future is "no user serviceable parts inside". That means when the mini stops working, I'm buying a fast, small PC to take its place. As I already have some PCs in the house running Windows 10 (which I almost never see because I'm in my apps and they're identically cross-platform), the switch from Apple products will be complete. (I already use an Android phone.)

I stopped being an apologist for Apple when I stopped working for them.
 
Phil and Tim are full of it when they say it "an important product". Otherwise it would not be behind by 5 generations of technology upgrades.
Phil and Tim life in the past and still think it’s 2007 where Apple was king. Since then nothing much has changed except higher prices.
 
I think the Mini and the Mac Pro are going to be discontinued eventually. They are "specialized" products that are sold in numbers that, given Apple's massive production quantities, are essentially rounding errors. Not trying to be flippant here because I know people love these products, but to me, that's the reality.

As for the iMac, that got updated in June, and the new iMac Pro will be coming out in a few weeks. IMHO, the new iMac Pro will be the replacement for the Mac Pro.

As for displays, Apple is out of that game, just like they are now out of the router business and the printer business (the latter dates me because I fondly remember the Apple LaserWriter series :D). Third parties can make these peripherals with excellent quality, so Apple doesn't really need to anymore.
Does Apple use Macs for their own hardware engineering and design work? Or do they use PCs/workstations with other operating systems for this purpose? The test and measurement equipment they buy from Agilent, Tektronix, etc. in the lab is likely all Windows based. But the computers they use for schematic and PCB layout, electromagnetic sim, mechanical CAD, etc. I assumed were Macs. If so then I can't imagine them ever discontinuing the Mac Pro even if it represents only 1% of sales. Or maybe they just use "homebrew" prototype versions of the Mac for design work that they don't sell commercially.
 
I agree with the sarky comment on the MR Facebook page...

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Still waiting for Apple to release anything that will be a worthwhile upgrade from my 2012 quad i7. :(
 
Apple stand for "Less For More" now. And as they release increasingly reduced featured products for more than they cost last version - their user base clamour for more. It's crazy. No other company would get away with it and last. But Apple always do. And they know it. So why change a "winning" formula?
Some day it will bite them. I hope sooner then later. I’m for a boycott Apple until they start releasing competitive products again. When you want to be a premium brand, your products should be premium as well.
 
I had the 2011 quad, was a good computer if you ignored the slow drive.

This 5 year cutoff is more anti consumer than ever, now that computers aren't getting drastically faster every year. Hopefully the OS support doesn't follow the hardware support.
 
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Does Apple use Macs for their own hardware engineering and design work? Or do they use PCs/workstations with other operating systems for this purpose? The test and measurement equipment they buy from Agilent, Tektronix, etc. in the lab is likely all Windows based. But the computers they use for schematic and PCB layout, electromagnetic sim, mechanical CAD, etc. I assumed were Macs. If so then I can't imagine them ever discontinuing the Mac Pro even if it represents only 1% of sales. Or maybe they just use "homebrew" prototype versions of the Mac for design work that they don't sell commercially.
I’m afraid they do... seeing the speed of their new offerings it has to be drawn on ancient hardware.
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I had the 2011 quad, was a good computer if you ignored the slow drive.

This 5 year cutoff is more anti consumer than ever, now that computers aren't getting drastically faster every year. Hopefully the OS support doesn't follow the hardware support.
Correction: it does. It’s bug driven and unsafe these days.
 
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