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It would make little sense to advertise the OS at this point since Vista is on the verge of being retired and Windows 7 will be rolled out in a couple of weeks. They plan to make the release candidate available as a free download, and this time there'll be unlimited downloads (the Vista betas and RCs were limited releases), and the RC won't expire until after the RTM version is available in stores, so basically the Win7 transition is imminent.

Even though MS doesn't make hardware (well, apart from gaming consoles, mice, keyboards etc), each PC sold means one copy of Windows sold, which cannot be said about every Mac sold. I think it's pretty clear for everyone who isn't hell bent on picking the ad apart in molecules.

Windows 7 RC is being released in a couple weeks, not the final version. I'm not sure if that's what you mean or not. No one outside MS knows for sure when it will be finally released. RC will be good until May 2010, at which time it will expire.
 
Uh, the drive mounting issue is a known Leopard problem. You might want to consider that before you accuse others of FUD.

It's not 100% always the case either though. I never have issues either on my machine or any of the machines I support.
 
In a response to something said earlier. I have nothing against PC's. I have everything against Microsoft and the crap software they make. I love in the Frank parody how he says the virus software is crap. Hilarious.

I love my mac. Not because it is expensive or shiny but because it is the most stable platform and is an amazing piece of machinery.

I have a Vista and OSX computer and have more memory leaks, hangs, etc on my Macbook Pro than on my Vista computer by far.

Office is really good, as is Live Photo Gallery, Zune 3.0, Windows Media Player, etc. Microsoft makes good software. But hey, if you don't like it, no big deal.
 
Uh, the drive mounting issue is a known Leopard problem. You might want to consider that before you accuse others of FUD.

Never seen, or had it. Given Anuba's history on MacRumors, it's difficult in taking what he states as truth.
 
It's not 100% always the case either though. I never have issues either on my machine or any of the machines I support.

True. It's one of those inconsistent annoyances that are a bit bothersome about Leopard. This one and the Airport connectivity issue are probably the most annoying.

OS X does a lot of things easier than Vista. Just not those two.
 
Clued Up

It's not 100% always the case either though. I never have issues either on my machine or any of the machines I support.

Yeh but how much of you having no problems at all are linked in to you being Clued Up?

The ones that know diddly squat are the ones that often have all the problems IMO!
 
Its great that Microsoft admits that they have to pay people to buy their products.
 
Even though MS doesn't make hardware (well, apart from gaming consoles, mice, keyboards etc), each PC sold means one copy of Windows sold, which cannot be said about every Mac sold.

Do you really believe that Mac sales only benefit the hardware department and not the software department?
 
I don't have the "issues" you are apparently are so concerned with spreading to everyone on MacRumors.
OK, so I take it you can't explain how mounting a network drive permanently in Leopard is done in three simple clicks or less, in which case my account wasn't really FUD at all?

It's not FUD about you when it's been stated BY you in numerous threads, such as the two previous Windows/HP ad discussions.
It's FUD when you cook up a mad retelling of the story, get most of the facts wrong and throw in some additional "facts" of your own making.
rabble rabble forgetting you got AppleCare and not activating it even though when purchased it is already activated
Wrong. It's only automatic when you buy the machine directly from Apple, online or through their own stores.

rabble rabble the closest Apple store, being too difficult
We don't have Apple Stores in Sweden. And what I said was that it's laughable that such an expensive service plan as the APP doesn't even include on-site repairs. How much does your service suck when Dell makes you look like ham-fisted amateurs? As for "difficult", that's subjective.
when someone suggested paying for your ticket
What are you smoking?
then it was your girlfriend uses this iMac that apparently wasn't working, but it works enough for her to surf and email
What do you mean "work enough"? It was stone dead, as in black screen and no startup sound, as in power management meltdown. She surfed and emailed plenty *before* it broke down, yes.

then it was all your precious documents you need are on your iMac
I didn't "need" any of them, the issue was that some files on the machine are under heavy NDA restrictions due to my client being a rather large software company that likes to keep their future products under tight wraps. This became an issue when it turned out that Apple doesn't do on-site repairs, because you don't just pull out a hard drive from an alu iMac. By leaving the computer and thus the hard drive unattended in the hands of some douches who can snoop around all they want, I would be violating the NDA.

Any other misunderstandings/hallucinations you need sorted out?
 
Well what i like to do is pop in my SD card into my laptop, play a blu-ray movie, do photoshop work, edit videos with premiere, surf the web with Chrome, and listen to music with the Zune software...

Hmmm. How many of those things can a Mac do?

What I like to do is pop in an SD card into my MBP, (USB input) play HD movies, blu-ray rips, DVDs, do photoshop work on two monitors (Photoshop Win64 doesn't handle multiple monitors well) edit video using FCP, which I find far superior to Premier, surf the web using Firefox, Safari 4, etc., edit and mix music using Logic Pro, and listen to music with iTunes. Besides, a Mac can do anything you mention above by running windows, sans FCStudio, Logic Pro, and Photoshop using more than one monitor.
 
Actually, PC users started it. All of the Mac users I've see are innocent people and then there's the PC fanboys always [first to] pick on Mac users and how they suck. I haven't heard one good reason about why Macs suck from any PC fanboy. Oh and saying Macs suck because it just does is not a reason at all, much less a good one.

I don't hate PCs generally, but seeing extreme [PC] fanboys being really biased kind of pisses me off. My friend who has an Alienware computer boasted how his 6K gaming machine can beat a Mac Mini and how [Alienware] supposedly cheaper... (???)

The vast majority of Windows fanboys have a love affair with Windows simply because of gaming. If Mac OS X could run all PC games natively, I bet 99% of them would rush out and buy Mac Pros. Don't believe that? Seeing as how so many of them are uniformed and plain ignorant, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

I just got into it with a Windows fanboy the other day when he said that Macs are simply ego purchases to make their owners feel better about themselves. I replied "Yeah, sure, so why did you spend $1,500 putting a gigantic sound system in your car? Why did you spend another $1,000 on your car's tarted-up paint job? Wouldn't have ANYTHING TO DO with you wanting other people to NOTICE and think you were COOL, now would it?" (He had nothing to say to that.)

But ignorance is the key. Only a Windows fanboy would be able to rationalize in his own mind a contest between a Mac mini and a quad-core Alienware. Oftentimes, Windows fanboys don't know anything about the PPC-Intel switch or what processors Macs even use.

One of my coworkers, a guy in his mid-30's whom I've decided to dub "The AidenShaw of Walmart" is a know-it-all Windows smartass who gets snotty whenever a customer asks him if a particular peripheral is Mac-compatible. He'll say something like, "It might work, but Macs aren't compatible with anything so it wouldn't surprise me if it's not." I asked him why he said that and he replied, "Macs suck! My dad is in love with them but I've always hated them. It used to piss me off back when I was in high school that he spent so much money on a Macintosh when you could get an IBM PC for less. I mean the only thing more expensive than a Mac then was a Silicon Graphics workstation for like $12,000. But yeah, the Macs can't be upgraded or anything. Every time they change the operating system you have to buy another computer. If you want a bigger hard drive or more RAM you have to send them to Apple. And if something breaks then you're screwed. They're retarded." :rolleyes:

So really, it just boils down to the fact that people like running their mouths more than checking facts.
 
The vast majority of Windows fanboys have a love affair with Windows simply because of gaming.

Maybe. On the other hand the vast majority of Windows users use it because it's flexible and universal.

If Mac OS X could run all PC games natively, I bet 99% of them would rush out and buy Mac Pros. Don't believe that? Seeing as how so many of them are uniformed and plain ignorant, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

Really? You think hardcore gamers are going to be swayed by a workstation with a subpar (for gaming) GPU?

Shouldn't think so.
 
I just got into it with a Windows fanboy the other day when he said that Macs are simply ego purchases to make their owners feel better about themselves.

I love when they state that claim. Sure, I'll just throw my Mac Pro and monitors into my car and drive it over to the nearest Starbucks so I can display my purchase to everyone. Sadly I know a few people who hide their Windows systems when using them in public, not that I agree, Windows is a fine OS, but stating that spending thousands of dollars to feel good about your purchase is a pretty hollow excuse.
 
Its great that Microsoft admits that they have to pay people to buy their products.

Excellent, short, sweet and witty response! That's what the :apple: pr guy should have said. But he botched the job and gave a very mediocre convoluted one...
 
Windows 7 RC is being released in a couple weeks, not the final version. I'm not sure if that's what you mean or not.
I wrote "release candidate" once and "RC" twice, I thought it was crystal. What I meant, basically, was that with the beta being so stable and the RC being rolled out as a free download in a couple of weeks, many will be leaving Vista behind for good any day now. Which is why running Vista ads at this point in time would be mighty strange and pointless.

Do you really believe that Mac sales only benefit the hardware department and not the software department?
I've read the above sentence half a dozen times but I'm still at loss as to how it even remotely relates to what I said.
 
I'm not even wasting my time.
By all means, run. I'm getting used to the sight of you with your tail between your legs.
Excellent, short, sweet and witty response! That's what the :apple: pr guy should have said. But he botched the job and gave a very mediocre convoluted one...
Yup, that's a choice response right there. He should have asked for 5 minutes to think about it.
The vast majority of Windows fanboys have a love affair with Windows simply because of gaming.
Bizarre, that. For $4,000 they get almost the same framerate as a $300 console would give them. It's even more bizarre if you've been around since the days of games like Leisure Suit Larry, it was so blatantly obvious that a poor beige office PC was all kinds of wrong as a gaming platform, and somewhere deep inside it's still that same old office PC, only a billion times more powerful and covered in bling.
 
....is a know-it-all Windows smartass who gets snotty whenever a customer asks him if a particular peripheral is Mac-compatible. He'll say something like, "It might work, but Macs aren't compatible with anything so it wouldn't surprise me if it's not." I asked him why he said that and he replied, "Macs suck!"...

Ha, I guess you could say that I'm his opposite. Working for an electronics store, whenever I get someone who asks, "Will this work on my Mac?" I respond, "Yes, without a problem. The bigger question is will it work on Windows?" :D
 
By all means, run. I'm getting used to the sight of you with your tail between your legs.

Yup, that's a choice response right there. He should have asked for 5 minutes to think about it.

EDIT NOT WORTH MY TIME
 
I have a Vista and OSX computer and have more memory leaks, hangs, etc on my Macbook Pro than on my Vista computer by far.

Office is really good, as is Live Photo Gallery, Zune 3.0, Windows Media Player, etc. Microsoft makes good software. But hey, if you don't like it, no big deal.

Awesome!! I have almost your exact setup and couldn't agree more. Vista has been rock solid on my desktop for 5 months. Leopard (mind you I have owned every Mac OS) has caused me nothing but problems on my mac book pro.
 
I wrote "release candidate" once and "RC" twice, I thought it was crystal. What I meant, basically, was that with the beta being so stable and the RC being rolled out as a free download in a couple of weeks, many will be leaving Vista behind for good any day now. Which is why running Vista ads at this point in time would be mighty strange and pointless.

Oh I misread. I thought you meant the RC of Win7 was limited release; you meant the Vista RC.
 
Oh I misread. I thought you meant the RC of Win7 was limited release; you meant the Vista RC.
Vista betas and RCs were something you had to hurry and get before they closed the door for downloads, but from what I've read about the Win7 RC they have this big coordinated thing planned where they're gonna push the Win7 RC on everyone while simultaneously moving XP to some sort of pre-retirement status where XP users will only receive the basic security updates, no more hotfixes etc.
 
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