I am by no means a Kool-Aid drinking Mac fanboy like some of the posters who are insulting Aiden Shaw or Anuba..... but if you are having issues with Leopard what are you doing wrong?
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I am by no means a Kool-Aid drinking Mac fanboy like some of the posters who are insulting Aiden Shaw or Anuba..... but if you are having issues with Leopard what are you doing wrong?
Way back in the thread, there was this post about both Macs and PCs having there advantages.
For me, I'd rather have Mac OSX running on PC hardware.
For me, I'd rather have Mac OSX running on PC hardware.
This does sum it up and makes things more clearer when making the comparison. There is a reason why some have changed to a mac or have chosen to use macs as the only machine. "quality"
Too funny!!
Actually, a lot of gamers prefer to build their own machines...which means they put in the time to research the components they want. They also mod their machines frequently enough that they tend to know how to troubleshoot/debug/fix their systems better than an average user would. That would make them neither uniformed (I think you were aiming for "uninformed") nor ignorant...
Your reply didn't really prove his argument wrong. All you did was avoid the issue by suggesting he was being hypocritical.
Why do Mac fanboys knock Windows fanboys for being fanboys (and vice versa)?
Can we not just all stick with what we like and leave it at that? One of my coworkers, a guy in his mid-30's whom I've decided to dub "The AidenShaw of Walmart" is a know-it-all Windows smartass who gets snotty whenever a customer asks him if a particular peripheral is Mac-compatible. He'll say something like, "It might work, but Macs aren't compatible with anything so it wouldn't surprise me if it's not." I asked him why he said that and he replied, "Macs suck! My dad is in love with them but I've always hated them. It used to piss me off back when I was in high school that he spent so much money on a Macintosh when you could get an IBM PC for less. I mean the only thing more expensive than a Mac then was a Silicon Graphics workstation for like $12,000. But yeah, the Macs can't be upgraded or anything. Every time they change the operating system you have to buy another computer. If you want a bigger hard drive or more RAM you have to send them to Apple. And if something breaks then you're screwed. They're retarded."
So really, it just boils down to the fact that people like running their mouths more than checking facts.
Reading all that was totally not worth it for the point you were trying to make...
A beautiful quote.
So true.
Plus, all the hidden needs that cost you a lot of cash to make the PC work and be stable raise the price even or beyond a Mac. And then time to make it all work, and time to decipher the confusion of all the crap in the OS and programs, make a PC a true waste of time. It's a great scam. But, it's still a scam. The price of the base system is a lure, and you pay later.
That's the main reason I can't do the Hackintosh thing. And I'd pull my hair out with the micro problems that already exist with Leopard on the Mac and pro apps.... along with the major issues of Leopard running on a PC with pro apps.
Uh, a PC isn't really hard at all to run, just annoying. I have no issues maintaining this Vista laptop, it just annoys me.
According to multiple reviews as well as another gentleman here at MR (whose name escapes me now) the EFI-X really does work just as a Mac does, provided you follow their hardware compatibility list. Just build the PC following the HCL, stick the dongle on the USB header, and buy a retail OS X disk.
It ends up that you can build a minitower for the same cost as an entry-level iMac, with a quad core Intel and more expandability.
http://efi-x.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21&language=english
Uses a regular retail disk of OS X; doesn't really require hacking of any sort, outside of adding the dongle (which isn't really hacking).
This is the point I take issue with:
Actually it can. Each Mac sale is also an OS X sale.
The difference is Apple is selling it directly to their customers, whereas most copies of Windows are sold to the end user via Microsoft's OEM partners.
Why do Mac fanboys knock Windows fanboys for being fanboys (and vice versa)?
It's just like the iPhone users. One mention of the word "PRE" and they are all in arms about how terrible it's going to be and so forth.
People assign their lives to these Operating Systems and feel personally insulted when someone even hints at saying it sucks or isn't better than "X" product.
I agree. I don't know what he's really getting at besides that one guy being an idiot, and his father not knowing how to upgrade computers.
I have been meaning to try this just for the sake of tinkering around. I've read a lot about the x86 project and have the necessary files and such, but never got the time. What exactly occurs? EFI versus BIOS wise?
Come on. The vast majority of Windows users use it because that is what their IT department put on their desk.
You point the BIOS at USB device to boot, which then boots from the EFI-X. The EFI-X then emulates what the OS X disk is looking for, then allows you to load the operating system.
Theoretically Apple could break this by requiring another piece of hardware somewhere in a "genuine" Macintosh. However I'm not sure how they'd accomplish that while not breaking existing genuine Macs. But I'm not an engineer, so maybe I'm missing something.
well by the time you put in your SD card via usb input on your mbp and rip the blu-ray movie, you won't have any more usb for your external mouse or ipod/iphone. sucks don't it?
They can break it but as long as the efi is updated with the latest firmware then it can so to speak "unbreak" this by modifying itself accordingly to bypass the new apple tweak like it did in the first place. At least that's my rudimentary understanding of this.
Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard, use FireWire 800 on Pro or USB for Blu-Ray, which leaves plenty of open connections for a SD card. Or, use the SD Memory card slot available on most [networked] printers. After all, it's all about wireless moving into the future, who needs more wires?
Mine too, unless they find a way to add a secondary internal piece of hardware that the OS disk looks for. Like I said, I'm no engineer and I'm just hypothesizing.
How long would I need to keep an SD card connected, 30secs? Blu-ray movies have already been ripped and transferred over. The wireless mouse doesn't take up a usb port, which leaves plenty for charging/updating the iPhone, when necessary. Nah.... only my HP laptop truly sucked, and not in a small way.
On a sidenote it's too damn expensive the dongle isn't it? For what it does I mean, add to that the cost of the original os x retail version and you are far better off just getting a mac, unless you really want the mid tower desktop.
Wow this response is chock full of irony.
Macs essentially require Windows to be installed to get full functionality out of the hardware. You need it if you want to do anything other than syncing your iDevice or playing with your pictures in iPhoto. Everything "real" requires Windows, and those things you can do in OS X aren't guaranteed to be compatible with their Windows counterparts, so you still need Windows to guarantee compatibility with real world work.
Macs certainly can't do everything people want. They can't play blu-ray movies without a lot of additional and costly hardware, even when they can play blu-ray movies they can't playback the high end audio formats. They can't play games adequately. When it comes to music, the choices for audio hardware are extremely limited. Theres no 64-bit version of Photoshop on OS X, so they're no longer the platform of choice for Photoshop users.
So going by Apple's own logic, Macs are terrible values at any price because you can't do what you want with them, and what you can do with them requires a secondary OS be installed for full functionality.
Macs essentially require Windows to be installed to get full functionality out of the hardware. You need it if you want to do anything other than syncing your iDevice or playing with your pictures in iPhoto. Everything "real" requires Windows, and those things you can do in OS X aren't guaranteed to be compatible with their Windows counterparts, so you still need Windows to guarantee compatibility with real world work.
Macs certainly can't do everything people want. They can't play blu-ray movies without a lot of additional and costly hardware, even when they can play blu-ray movies they can't playback the high end audio formats. They can't play games adequately. When it comes to music, the choices for audio hardware are extremely limited. Theres no 64-bit version of Photoshop on OS X, so they're no longer the platform of choice for Photoshop users.
So going by Apple's own logic, Macs are terrible values at any price because you can't do what you want with them, and what you can do with them requires a secondary OS be installed for full functionality.
Yes, getting that mini tower desktop would be worth it. Upgrading the GFX card on even a $1400 Mac would be wonderful.
And we aren't homophobes or taking any cheap shots at them. It was just outta taste. If you want the issue to stop completely, don't call us homophobes.