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Apple Confirms Aperture to Be Removed From Mac App Store After Launch of Photos for OS X

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Will it still show up in my purchased apps, or will that be gone too?

I'm curious as I plan to do some upgrades later this year, and would like to be able to re-install my aperture on those machines? Any best way to preserve it now?
 
shandyman said:
Exactly. It's going to be interesting to see some of the third party apps that are going to take advantage of this.
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Exactly!

I am excited to see how third party apps will use the Photo's "platform" to provide us with some great capability.

Think about it...Apple provides the base: 1) Apple sells iCloud storage (revenue), 2) Apple farms out app development (cost reduction), 3) 3rd parties fill the void with some pretty cool stuff that meets both general and niche market needs with Apple getting a share for their sales (more revenue). Sounds like a pretty good business model to me.
 
CausticPuppy said:
They should have at least reduced the price to $0 when they announced its end-of-life.

After using the Photos beta for a couple days, it's definitely an iPhoto replacement, so iPhoto users should be very happy.

It's nowhere near an Aperture replacement though. Maybe the beta is still missing some key features, but no batch editing, no rating/culling, no brushed effects, no effects presets, no curves adjustments, no RAW fine tuning. It supports RAW but it seems its more geared toward JPG editing, as in your iPhone photos.

On the plus side, it does appear like it'll be a great tool for your iOS photos.
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I haven't looked at it but your post is what I was looking for. I need at least four of those features you mentioned. I haven't moved my RAW processing off my Windows desktop and had been thinking about using my rMBP but now ... I have no choice but to stay put.
 
They should have discontinued selling Aperture the moment they announced that it is basically dead in the water going forward. If there won't be anymore support, why keep selling it to the public?
 
Lazy said:
They probably didn't make the exact statement "Photos is replacing iPhoto and Aperture", but they announced the death of iPhotos and Aperture at the same time they introduced Photos, so that was implied. Without a doubt Photos is replacing iPhoto, even if they didn't say that explicitly, and by implication at least it's replacing Aperture too.
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The Aperture pages reads: "When Photos for OS X is available this spring, Aperture will no longer be available for purchase from the Mac App Store."

That seems more than just an implication. Photos is replacing both.
 
northernbaldy said:
its a shame that apple are chasing the money and scrapping off pro applications
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Lol. I see. Apple is "chasing the money" by releasing brand new apps that are more intuitive and capable than ever before...completely free of charge. Makes sense.
 
Fortimir said:
Adobe Lightroom (as of version 5.7) has an Aperture catalog conversion tool built in.

If you're still on Aperture, you really should consider switching. Lightroom's been the better program since LR3. Even with LR2 it was debatable.
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The problem with the conversion tool is that it doesn't save RAW edits. I could import my whole library -- many hundreds of GBs -- but then I would have to re-edit everything, which is not bloody likely to happen.

Since Apple's announcement of discontinuing support for Aperture I've completely switched over to Lightroom for my new up-and-coming photo library. As you say, LR really is better. So in a way, it is kind of a blessing in disguise; now people are forced to use better and more power editing software if they need it. It's also convinced me to never spend another time on any "professional" software ever again.
 
MacRumors said:
Reviews have suggested that the Photos for OS X feature set lies somewhere in between that of the consumer-oriented iPhoto and the pro-oriented Aperture.
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That statement is ridiculous. :rolleyes: There is absolutely nothing resembling Aperture in Photos. Photos seems to be a glorified photos browser with very few if any advanced features.
 
PsykX said:
I hope Photos is not feature frozen as of the beta of 10.10.3, because Aperture users will be deceived.

I, for one, was using iPhoto, and I'm generally very happy with the long overdue changes.

In fact, I've wasted over 10 hours in Photos, sorting my 10,000 photo library that I've never been able to sort before with iPhoto because the interface was too slow and very awkward and didn't know if I had to create events or albums.
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I never understood how people could NOT understand it. An Event in iPhoto is basically just like a folder if you sort your photos manually.

One Event = a wedding, or a vacation, or a birthday party

Albums on the other hand are used to create something like a collection, without having to have the same photo twice physically.

So one Album = my favorite photos from my last 5 vacations in Italy, or another random collection of photos.
 
etoiles said:
Yosemite required an Aperture update... how long will it realistically continue to run if OS X is kept up to date?
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It depends.

Some Mac OS X applications from 2007 still run, unmodified, on Yosemite. Others won't even start.

It all depends on how the app was built, how many OS frameworks it taps into that may have changed, and so on.

I don't have much hope for Aperture, because it hooks into the system a lot. For example, being able to sync photos from it to your iPhone through iTunes. As iTunes and iOS syncing moves forward, this feature may break. The application as a whole will break if they update the various camera RAW frameworks in non-backwards compatible ways.

The gist of it is, you're good for another year. MAYBE two. But at some point you'll have to choose between having to run an old version of OS X to keep using Aperture, or migrate to a new application.

I recommend not rushing into anything, but rather keeping your eyes open for good alternatives. Lightroom is one; I personally despise Adobe, though. You have time; Aperture is not going to break for at least a year, and even then you have the option of running Yosemite a bit longer while you locate an alternative.
 
BvizioN said:
I have read similar comments when Final Cut Pro x was initially released. But now most people love it.
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Except most of the former user base that actually did leave Final Cut Pro X never came back.

w00master

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theSeb said:
It's not going to delete itself from your hard drive. It still does exactly what it's always done and what I needed it to do, so I plan to keep using it.
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Yes, because it's great maintaining outdated software yourself. /s

Back in the day, I tried that for a while back with Quicken... Gave up. Not worth it at all, you move on and find something to replace it.

w00master
 
If Apple had the same thought process of the comments here, we'd still be on OS 9 and on PPC hardware. Apple is killing Aperture so they can make Photos better, and considerable as a replacement for Aperture. Is it a shame they didn't do this before killing Aperture? Sure, but there's a reason why they're killing Aperture.
 
In my opinion, Apple should release Aperture for free, as a download with no support. That way whomever wants to use it can, and there is no harm no foul if something breaks.
 
heeloliver said:
If Apple had the same thought process of the comments here, we'd still be on OS 9 and on PPC hardware. Apple is killing Aperture so they can make Photos better, and considerable as a replacement for Aperture. Is it a shame they didn't do this before killing Aperture? Sure, but there's a reason why they're killing Aperture.
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I hope this is the case...but the reason I'm skeptical is that pretty much none of what made Aperture great made it into photos. Stacks, flagging, ratings, lifting and stamping adjustments, etc...

If they were intending to make this as good as Aperture eventually, I can't see why nothing that's Aperture exclusive made it in. Maybe we'll someday see a "Photos Pro", but I'm not holding my breath.

Personally I'm glad I'm not as serious about my photography as I used to be; this affects me less than it would have five years ago. But it still hurts that if I get really into the hobby again, it won't be with Aperture.
 
How will Photos handle Aperture edits?

So what if most of my photos have chromatic aberration adjustments and RAW fine tuning adjustments? Does that information just get lost in the transfer? I wonder if Lightroom handles those edits and if I should just switch to Lightroom? However, I'm not sure Lightroom has a full cloud-syncing feature to sync all my photos across all devices... like iCloud does.

This whole thing seems to be quite overwhelming and confusing... :(
 
I love Aperture and pretty bummed they are discontinuing it. I held off of any judgement until we saw the new app. I've started using Photos in the beta and I'm sure improvements will come but it is not the same. Sure you can make photo adjustments and those fun filters but it does not handle file management well at all. That was one of the best things about Aperture.

I tried to migrate my Aperture library into Photos (after backing it up first, obv) but none of the albums I have that are not in the cloud show up. None of the presets or pro-filters I have carried over either. I'm going to try again in case I missed something in the setup but that's a bad way to convince Aperture users that Photos is an acceptable replacement.

Photos is a nice iPhoto replacement for people who probably only take photos w/ their phone or basic point & shoots. It's actually great for that. The iCloud integration is much better than in iPhoto. But for any pro or prosumer users, this is definitely a loss.

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zorinlynx said:
I hope this is the case...but the reason I'm skeptical is that pretty much none of what made Aperture great made it into photos. Stacks, flagging, ratings, lifting and stamping adjustments, etc...
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Yes...this. All of this :(
 
northernbaldy said:
its a shame that apple are chasing the money and scrapping off pro applications
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In addition to being unable to spell and having a broken shift key, you have no idea what you're talking about. Yes, ONE pro application is going away (for a while at least, maybe permanently). The others? Seems to me like they've never been better.

I guess you're just practicing for the Olympics -- your quest for the gold in jumping to conclusions?
 
zorinlynx said:
It depends.

Some Mac OS X applications from 2007 still run, unmodified, on Yosemite. Others won't even start.

It all depends on how the app was built, how many OS frameworks it taps into that may have changed, and so on.

I don't have much hope for Aperture, because it hooks into the system a lot. For example, being able to sync photos from it to your iPhone through iTunes. As iTunes and iOS syncing moves forward, this feature may break. The application as a whole will break if they update the various camera RAW frameworks in non-backwards compatible ways.

The gist of it is, you're good for another year. MAYBE two. But at some point you'll have to choose between having to run an old version of OS X to keep using Aperture, or migrate to a new application.

I recommend not rushing into anything, but rather keeping your eyes open for good alternatives. Lightroom is one; I personally despise Adobe, though. You have time; Aperture is not going to break for at least a year, and even then you have the option of running Yosemite a bit longer while you locate an alternative.
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I sync photos using Image Capture. I prefer it that way so any iTunes hooks are not going to cause me problems.
 
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