How they call - sustainable products with long updates.
Saved in the logs as innovation. Just in case somebody brings that up.
How they call - sustainable products with long updates.
It was a bad idea from start.
iMac should have stayed iMac,no Pro nonsense.
A typical Tim Hollywood product. Pros went rogue - Tim just feeded them some expensive stuff to quit them. Successful - he’s an evil mastermind!
They sell these separately now.
Upgrades are mostly for power users with special needs. If you have a corporate PC managed by the IT department, there are probably processes in place for replacing it smoothly. In contrast, if you are a power user with root access to a system the IT department is not allowed to touch, there may be extensive customizations that cannot be easily transferred to a new system. Upgrading such systems often makes financial sense, because replacing them would force you to spend plenty of time for nonproductive purposes.We have several hundred PCs in the shop as well. Guess how many of them have upgraded graphics cards? Zero. It doesn’t make financial sense for the business. By the time one component is really ready for upgrade, usually the rest of the machine is due for an upgrade as well.
I also built a gaming PC 4 years ago. Back then, large SSDs were expensive, so I chose a small SSD and a large HDD. A few months ago, I finally replaced the HDD with a 2 TB SSD for $250, which had a huge impact on loading times. I also expected to replace the GPU with a $500 model that would have been several times faster than the old one. Unfortunately the global component shortage still persists and GPUs are at least 2x more expensive than usual. There is little point in replacing the CPU, RAM, and display at the moment, because new ones are not that much better than the ones I bought 4 years ago.Switching to the home front, I built a PC for gaming 4 years ago. Today, the GRFX card is showing some age. But why spend $1-1.5k on a new card when the CPU, ram, and IO are all also ready for updates. Even the monitor will be updated to take advantage of higher FPS 4K that wasn’t possible 4 years ago. The only component I hope to reuse will be the case.
Who can trust apple software after what they did with shake and aperture?M1 is the future of course, but I am starting to think that Apple should develop more pro apps of their own such as logic and FCP to fill instances where developers are not particularly aggressive in supporting the platform. That’s their own design suite, photo editing, CAD, architecture, 3D printing slicing among a few places where there is a space to fill and make sure every use case is always covered natively without having to wait or be held back by developers.
That’s my only concern right now in buying an m1 Mac and waiting for the Adobe suite and pro apps in the above listed categories.
Odd that they would ditch it now that they can actually put some horsepower into it with their own processors. That said, the regular iMac with Apple Silicon would be hard to differentiate from this unless they crippled it, or reduced items like memory and storage in the Standard iMac to make the Pro look better.
If they decide to do an Apple Silicon iMac Pro, I would expect it to use the new design language (so something that looks closer to the Pro XDR display), and have 10Gb/s Ethernet (maybe even a 40Gb/s option) and more Thunderbolt 4/USB4 ports/busses. No need to down grade the standard Apple Silicon iMac when there are lots of things that can be added that would not be used/needed by a regular user/iMac.Odd that they would ditch it now that they can actually put some horsepower into it with their own processors. That said, the regular iMac with Apple Silicon would be hard to differentiate from this unless they crippled it, or reduced items like memory and storage in the Standard iMac to make the Pro look better.
4yrs in tech time is an eternity.Only 4 years...
Millions of people do. Millions of people don't.Who can trust apple software after what they did with shake and aperture?
It kinda makes sense to me considering that yes, the iMac Pro was intended to appeal to "pro" users who need a more powerful Mac than even the most powerful iMac at the time could offer. Reviews at the time were pretty favourable towards it. Inability to upgrade the internal ram, and a couple of poor customer support experiences aside, it was capable of handling the workflows of pretty much everyone, except the 0.1% of users who will need something more (aka the Mac Pro).The Mac Pro always struck me as a weird animal. Powerful, yes, but the "Pro" name felt more like marketing than anything else. What's unfortunate about having Pro and non-Pro products is that some customers believe that the non-Pro counterpart is "underpowered", which is never the case.
Apple really needs to update its hardware from time to time.
Moving to Apple Silicon means there's not going to be real differences in CPU across Apple's lineup. We already see it now - the M1 Air and Pro aren't much different.I would have thought they'd retool it with a souped-up M2 processor. But maybe it just didn't sell that well.
. . . the regular iMac with Apple Silicon would be hard to differentiate from this unless they crippled it, or reduced items like memory and storage in the Standard iMac to make the Pro look better.
M1 is the future of course, but I am starting to think that Apple should develop more pro apps of their own such as logic and FCP to fill instances where developers are not particularly aggressive in supporting the platform. That’s their own design suite, photo editing, CAD, architecture, 3D printing slicing among a few places where there is a space to fill and make sure every use case is always covered natively without having to wait or be held back by developers.
That’s my only concern right now in buying an m1 Mac and waiting for the Adobe suite and pro apps in the above listed categories.
We have several hundred PCs in the shop as well. Guess how many of them have upgraded graphics cards? Zero. It doesn’t make financial sense for the business. By the time one component is really ready for upgrade, usually the rest of the machine is due for an upgrade as well.
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Someone might, and for reasons that don't require your personal approval.Who is even going to buy these knowing new models are coming soon and without even a price drop?
this!I never liked the iMac series, never mind the iMac Pro. Too limited, too noisy. An update just to M1 CPUs won't solve many of its practicality and upgradeability issues.
The cylindrical Mac Pro on the other hand was a missed opportunity by Apple due to bad choice of CPU/RAM/GPU which led to bad pricing, lack of b2o/upgrade options, and lack of support and hardware model updates.
What many of us need and want is a modular productivity/creativity desktop computer that does not have an attached screen to it and is better than a Mac Mini, both in performance and user/manufacturer upgradeability. I couldn't care less about dozens of PCI slots or 3.5" HDDs but I am not buying anything that comes with soldered RAM and storage.