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Apple Confirms It Shut Down iMessage for Android App Beeper Mini
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Which involves collecting sensitive information like government issued ID, residential address, social security number or similar, drivers license, bank cards and more, otherwise how can Apple act like law enforcement to ban certain user for life? While we are at it, might as well punish users criticising Apple by remotely erasing their device and seeking legal remedy because you hurt Apple’s feelings.
Never thought I would see the day when private company should have the power of a country to exclude people Apple hate for life effectively.
Apple started this toxic blue bubble culture intentionally when they released iMessages, and teenagers exacerbates the problem.
I don't see an obligation for the various companies to do it, but I do see governments needing to enforce something like that, just like the USA enforced phone lines for every community and now are doing the same with internet connections. Common good type things that both help the people communicate, and infrastructure that can be relied on for 2fa, announcements, ..., maybe even voting eventually. It just makes sense that everyone should be able to communicate with anyone else, and that's a good thing. Default communication tool enforced at the country level.
Do you think there should be no way for the end user to distinguish an iMessage from an SMS/MMS message?
Even if all iMessage bubbles were green just like SMS, the result is still the same. You can’t interact with a non-iMessage contact in a similar manner as your iMessage contacts. You’re still fixated on the color and not really understanding the significance of the color.
They misjudged how solid their solution would be when put under stress, common engineering story.
Arrogance, perhaps, but hey, live and learn.
Yes, this is a very interesting thought.
I feel we have certainly moved way too far into the privatization end of things and what should be held in the public common good is instead privatized. Like the electric grid (or for that matter, internet protocol and connectivity) should be seen as a public good and standards are needed for interoperability.
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Not sure if this post is satire or you actually believe this is going to happen. If it's the latter then a source for this belief would be nice.
So the conspiracy theory is that Apple is making a hoopla in order to divert attention from something there wasn’t a legal finding in only internet attorneys making baseless claims?
The are massively impacted to the positive. And by they customers and vendors alike.
Before the App Store, the iphone existed for one year. People were paying 50% to distributors to hold a CD on the shelf an had none of the services the App Store provides today.
And as I said above, many tried self-distribution and store distribution. The App Store was and continues to be an innovation to this day.
Literally the entirety of the computer world is built on the back of someone’s else’s work. Firefox couldn’t exists unless TCP existed and so on and so forth. Your logic is flawed.
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.
Google took control. Not apple.
So you are going to say Apple invented the subscription model that exists today? Well done apple.
Isn’t it better than 50% to a computer store?
Well as a business person you had better think about your future. No different than a retailer who goes out of business a customer with a defective CD can’t get a replacement copy.
I guess it never existed not ever.
Yep and they keep things as honest as possible by ensuring a certain level of quality in the App Store. *And please don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater on this one.
One example just renders this example nonsense. You downloade an app from a website and the app became corrupted and doesn’t run. You can’t reinstall it because you don’t have a backup, but the dev is out of business.
Really are you discussing major outlets or small devs because you seem to be moving the goalposts.
They do?
They aren’t the only ones doing that. APIs change all of the time.
Maybe if a dev can’t support what a dev needs to support a dev shouldn’t be in the business or should pick a suitable business model.
They won’t and they seem to be flourishing. Maybe you should go back to the good old days of CD distribution. You can do it yourself from home. No App Store needed.
It’s back, for those who didn’t catch the news yet: https://blog.beeper.com/p/beeper-mini-is-back
On the flip side, it now requires Apple ID sign-in. On the flip flip side, it’s now free.
On the flip side, it now requires Apple ID sign-in. On the flip flip side, it’s now free.
If beeper mini is still using fake OS X Mountain Lion serial numbers and users have an Apple Id then I wouldn't be surprised if the next step for Apple is to detect the fake serial numbers and then ban any Apple Id that was using a fake serial number to access iMessage. This might be bad news for anyone using an hackintosh too. Many Android users wouldn't care but if you are already in the Apple ecosystem, are you ready to risk your Apple Id?
It's easier to convince your Android friend to download an app than buy an entirely new phone. Or maybe you only allow yourself to be friends with iPhone users which is definitely petty.
edit: Plenty of cross-platform messaging apps already exist though, so the stubbornness of both sides is real. This whole thing is very entertaining.
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I browsed the Reddit. People are Still having issues with it and many ppl aren’t going to want to keep using it when they see apple can and will block it.
The Reddit is like a cult. It’s sad lmao
How is it apples fault that consumers don’t know of other apps? If iMessage works for them then why would they need to use anything else.
There’s a lot of apps Idk about. Should I blame apple for that?
Lmao y’all really want to blame apple for anything and it’s sad. They created this feature for their phones over 10 years ago before RCS became mainstream. Just like bbm. The only ppl to blame for blue bubble are android users who are upset that people know they have an android.
Your friend group must be incredibly shallow if smartphone preference is a deciding factor 🙃
Oh, I have android friends. We have no issues communicating because GASP we can use dozens of choices of cross platform apps.
I am nearly 30 and nobody in my group cares what phone you have. The ONLY time you will ever hear me mention it is when my friends insist on taking a picture with their Galaxy or Pixels and i refuse lol.
TO MESSAGE ANDROID USERS AND GET ENCRYPTION AND OTHER FEATURES. That would be why. Why would any apple user in their right mind use just the basic and old sms to message non-apple users when there are many better alternatives for that? It’s idiotic to use sms at all these days.
And it’s apple’s fault people don’t care to look for other apps because they merged sms and their own service in the same app, imessage should at least have been a separate app. Many people don’t even know what the green and blue bubbles mean and either think they’re still sending imessage to their non-apple contacts despite the green bubbles or think they’re still using sms when they message their apple contacts despite the blue bubbles.
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I don't understand why you would disagree with it being petty then but alright.
Sure it is petty to judge someone on their phone choice. Especially as an adult.
But how is judging someone on their phone choice any different than Guys not gettign dates because they are short or not in shape? Or girls because they arent this or that.
Macrumors Android fans will have you thinking that all Android users are judged based on the green bubbles. When in reality they aren't. It's self-victimization.
You really are not making any sense whatsoever. How is it Apple's fault for people not using the App store to discover Apps? Are you really blaming APPLE because people don't search for Apps...in the App store....on their phones? Make it make sense. How is apple to blame for how someone uses or does not use their phone.
You do realize most users (Ios And Android) do not care about E2EE. You guys want to speak for the average joe without knowing what the average joe is thinking or needs. You just said it your most people do not know green or blue.
Personally idc about RCS or SMS....I am texting. There is nothing i am worried about my text being hijacked or hacked. So for me SMS/MMS does not bother me. I also have telegram and other apps if i want to send something risque.
Here is a perfect example: My mom. She asked me a few months ago what RCS was because it showed on her phone. I didnt really know how to explain it to her so i simply just said it is a newer way to text and not to worry about it.
As long as the user is able to text whomever they want they do not care if it is RCS or iMessage. To them they are texting. Most users probably cant even tell you what SMS or MMS stands for. Most people wouldnt know if they are a CDMA carrier or GSM carrier.
My mom nor these people are not dumb but they simply dont care what it is called as long as it works.
I now have learned a lot more about RCS through this constant whining from Android users about iMessage but if Apple is bringing RCS to IOS then all this whining is unnecessary.
Y'all are still whining because even with RCS bringing those features, they still want their messages to be blue. It's sad.
Dating is different, you may find someone attractive or you may not. I wish more people would keep an open mind regarding some characteristics rather than make constant comparisons like "he isn't as tall" but that's getting off topic.
If people are judging friends the same way they judge dates, yes this is extremely petty.
Nobody over the age of 18 is judging people for using an Android.
It's a partial fix. Sending and receiving messages is working again. Phone number registration is still not working. That's why you need a AppleID for the moment to use "Beeper Mini". Beeper is not getting or storing your AppleID. It's only used to authenticate against the Apple services so that iMessage works.