End of an era. Long live macOS Intel x86. And big iron pcie chassis with user upgradable storage.
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Apple Confirms Mac Pro Is Dead, No Future Models Planned
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My thought was that they finally ran out of the original manufacturing run of cases they made in 2019.
The writing has been on the wall for this ever since they “completed the Apple Silicon transition” by making this last abomination.
Someone at Apple has always hated the Mac Pro and has been trying to kill it for a long time. So they did this to it so no one would buy it, and then said look no one’s buying it.
Just as the prophecy foretold.
Exactly. The only logical explanation for Apple to do that is that they didn’t know what to do with it and wanted to discontinue it, so they quite literally manufactured a reason.
Who didn't see this coming? Now, where can I get an empty Mac Pro case before they get scrapped?
bladerunner88
macrumors 6502
Still hanging onto mine as a Daily Driver! (3.5Ghz 6 Core 64 Gbs Ram) Running MacOS 12.76
But admittedly dreaming of a Studio....
HazeAndHahmahneez
macrumors 6502a
Just ditch the windows top and get a p5 pro! No google involvement etc very nice! Gotta keep that goog mess wayyyyy over there, like around the block, down the way, outta sight, outta mind, outta town, outta the stratosphere etc etc etc
Happy_John
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Apple planned to killed off the “proper” Mac Pro because of Thunderbolt same since the release of the trashcan in 2013.
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Happy_John
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They couldn’t get “extreme” M chips to work well enough to get enough viable fused chips, simple as that.
The yield of viable Ultra M chips is also low.
It’s why they’ve switched to a different method of chiplet fusion with the M5 pro and max chips.
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visualseed
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I also did Mac Pros (IIs, Quadras, PowerMacs, etc.) all the way to the 2013 (trashcan) and jumped to an iMac Pro which I loved and felt was the spiritual successor to the SE/30 which was my favorite Mac ever, but I saw the writing on the wall when my first-gen M1 MacBook Pro dusted it in every metric relevant to my needs, and it’s been in a box ever since. My studio, first an M1U and now an M3U, is just a solid beast. I sense the symbolic loss of the Mac Pro, but I don’t feel I’ve lost anything in terms of power or capabilities. It’s simply the fading of legacy paradigms that are finally disappearing across the entire industry. For better or worse, it’s a new era, and I’m quite excited about it.
Happy_John
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It already does, through thunderbolt. Buying large amounts of internal storage on a desktop Mac is stupidity these days, when you can buy a fast TB external enclosure. There are very few use-cases where even a 40 Gbps USB4 enclosure is too slow.
Or a lot later than expected. Should’ve been killed after the last Studio refresh
Good riddance. Apple never updated it so what was the point? In the PowerPC days they updated it every year.
From 2013 trashcan until 2026 today, there were exactly 3 models.
1) 2013 Trashcan completely untouched for 6 years.
2) 2019 cheese grater untouched for 4 years.
3) 2023 M2 untouched for 3 years.
Put it out of its misery.
From 2013 trashcan until 2026 today, there were exactly 3 models.
1) 2013 Trashcan completely untouched for 6 years.
2) 2019 cheese grater untouched for 4 years.
3) 2023 M2 untouched for 3 years.
Put it out of its misery.
The lowest end configuration of the Intel one was cheaper than the lowest end Apple silicon model. Once you started getting higher end Xeons that quickly reversed
rizzo41999
macrumors 6502a
I put Linux Mint on my Trashcan. Works great!
Wow, that's a bit surprising.... well... a bit. haha
I think the overall thesis here that Apple wants to keep AI competitors out is probably pretty accurate. They're clearly aiming to compete in the local AI world and keeping Nvidia/AMD out of the hardware ecosystem is one way to help that effort. But there is also a degree to which they probably just can't justify supporting the broader PCIe environment for one machine.
Though it's also vaguely possible that they're going to shift it into something less glamorous and more practical. Highly unlikely, but not impossible. Nobody asked for the last version... What they asked for was a modular mid-tower, from what I recall.
I think the overall thesis here that Apple wants to keep AI competitors out is probably pretty accurate. They're clearly aiming to compete in the local AI world and keeping Nvidia/AMD out of the hardware ecosystem is one way to help that effort. But there is also a degree to which they probably just can't justify supporting the broader PCIe environment for one machine.
Though it's also vaguely possible that they're going to shift it into something less glamorous and more practical. Highly unlikely, but not impossible. Nobody asked for the last version... What they asked for was a modular mid-tower, from what I recall.
alfonsog
macrumors 6502a
I had the first Mac Pro 2006 and then the first Mac Pro Trashcan in 2013. I loved that one it was my best looking Mac since my iMac G4. I got the Mac Studio M1 Ultra in 2022 so I think I'm good until 2030 at least. The Trashcan and the Studio are basically the Power Mac G4 Cube's sequels. But the Studio is.. ugly to me compared to any Mac Pro or iMac.
The Mac Pro has essentially been dead for over a decade.
The trash can pro was the beginning of the end
The trash can pro was the beginning of the end
BillyJoeJimBob
macrumors regular
It's really a shame, this war on personal computing. It seems that the users of personal cimputing devices are being slowly funneled into a kind of dystopian model of things where the devices are designed primarily for societal/lifestyle-choice reinforcement and shopping rather than the kind of rugged DYI compute-driven art and science that made Apple's bones. I don't believe that a same-spec Studio is as powerful as a same-spec Mac Pro when it's really pushed, just because of the thermals. The Studio would certainly be noisier. That's a problem in a recording studio. This was the year I was going to buy an M5 Mac Pro. I guess I will buy nothing and just keep my OpenCore hackintosh, the most powerful, stable, and quietest Mac that I've ever owned.
Happy_John
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You'll get no argument from me. Even now the only thing it's failing on is programs requiring AVX instructions. Those didn't show up until the Haswell series.
Apple Fan 2008
macrumors 68000
Wow, wasn't expecting that news today. End of PCI Macs. 1995-2026
Most of us do as it was obvious even before 7,1 then that the transition to AS was already well underway.
IMO the new tower redesign, while beautiful was an overall abomination compared to all the cool things we were doing with the cheese grater classics.
Apple's treatment of their pro market is just ridiculous at this point. Apple has only themselves to blame. They blamed AMD and Intel for the Trash can Mac Pro by the roadmap not working out with their design strategies. 2019 Mac Pro was almost a good product but they released it in such a horrible state. Maxed out i9 iMac at the time was cheaper than the Mac Pro and the performance was so much better.
I really hope Microsoft can turn things around with Windows 11, at this point I am considering going back to Windows.
I really hope Microsoft can turn things around with Windows 11, at this point I am considering going back to Windows.