Apple Confirms Record-Breaking Four Million First Day Pre-Orders for the iPhone 6 and 6 Plus

[RealMonster]

Wow. The amount of incorrect information in that "revenge" pic is astounding. Desperation levels are strong with this image. Let's go over some of the better parts...

Lockscreen notifications: Been a part of Android since before KitKat. It's nice to see Apple catching up.

Really? The Nexus 4 that I used earlier this year didn't have lockscreen notifications in any way that was similar to iOS. I tried downloading some apps to replicate that functionality, but I didn't like any of them.

Do Not Disturb: Samsung Galaxy phones have had this since Galaxy S3. It's nice to see Apple catching up.

Well, the date on that feature is from the same year as the S3, so at worst this is a tie. It's not built into Android itself, though.

64-bit Support: Not very useful for an iPhone with only 1GB ram, but hey, at least it's there, right?

It is, actually. Wider instructions mean more data per instruction, which means fewer instructions. In the best case, I've heard of about a 20% speedup without doing anything that specifically takes advantage of this feature. (That is, taking a 32-bit app and recompiling it with no modifications for a 64-bit platform.)

64-bit instructions aren't just about addressing more memory.

Wireless screen mirroring: Been a part of Samsung Galaxy phones since GS3. It's nice to see Apple catching up.

iOS 5 predates the GS3.

The hyperbole in that image is simply impressive.

The original image isn't free of hyperbole either.

NFC has been present, but has been effectively unusable for payments. Some people manage to pay for a few things, but Apple's push means, ironically, that more people on Android will be able to pay using their phones than can currently. Also, from all accounts, if it lives up to the demo, it'll be much easier to use than the Android version. Apple's strength, as ever, is user interfaces.

Apple's 3rd party keyboards are sandboxed. So are the app interactions. Data communication in the Apple model is significantly more security-minded than the Android model. For instance, third party keyboards aren't allowed to enter passwords in password fields. You MUST use the Apple keyboard as a way to avoid accidentally transmitting your data somewhere in case there's a malicious keylogger in the application.

I already have cloud photo back up. I also have cloud phone backup. When I get my new iPhone, I'll be doing the full restore from the cloud. That's built in to the OS. I could be wrong, but I didn't see a similar option on the Nexus. (I really don't know, though. I'm willing to be corrected on this point.)

For the record, I want nothing to do with app installs that come from a web browser. I have enough trouble with ads that take me to the app store (and blessedly, they'll all be blocked with iOS 8).

Some of the stuff is new to the OS, it's true.

It's also worth noting that under iOS I have per-app permissions, a feature that Android doesn't have at all unless you flash your phone to run Cyanogen. And if my phone has trouble (which it hasn't in 4 years, actually) I could just go to the Apple store. If the phone needs to be replaced, I get a new one on the spot--I don't have to fight with the carrier or the manufacturer for one and I don't have to wait for one to be shipped to me.

Oh, and I still don't want a 4.7" screen. It may be a feature that's new to iPhones, but I'm not a fan.

 

[TobyZiegler]

46 orders per second and you expect no hiccup?

Your calculation requires the preorders to be linear over 24h; which they certainly were NOT!

It could probably look somewhere like this, maybe even more extreme in the first hour:

 

[iKaushal]

What is amazing is the I am excited for it to launch in. India so that you can get your hands on one! I hope Apple is able to break through in the BRIC countries.

Apple has made huge inroads in India in last 2 years.

iPhone 5 and 5s saw huge queues during launch similar to USA.

and with so many people now having significant disposable income, I see a lot of iPhones around.

its no longer the elite who have iPhones in India.

Apple is taking India pretty seriously since past 1 year.

 

[TobyZiegler]

Just about every feature iPhone 6 and iPhone Plus have, Samsung and other Android manufacturers have been producing for many years prior.

TRUE .... and FALSE.

Apple uses this stuff and actually creates some decent software or solution around it.
I used the exact Nexus device for a couple of months and it was simply not the
best experience:

Screen size => Well Apple decided to go the other way for a while, now people like these bigger screens. No real innovation there, i would call it a draw
0:0

760p Screen => the colors were not really as nice as the iP6 colors will be!
1:0 for

NFC => no real world usage for it... it's just there in Android devices but rarely used (only thing i know of: exchange of contact data aka Android Beam). I say it was probably only a security hole in Android so far - i might be wrong on that
2:0

Notifications => yeah Android had it first and it was usable
2:1

Widgets => i found the overall management and presentation of these widgets to be underwhelming, both still have potential here. A draw.
2:1

3rd Party Keyboards => ok i'll give it to Android
2:2

Typing suggestions => didn't work for me in Android, Apple does it the right way if i consider the iOS8 latest build.
3:2

Cross app comm => didn't even notice any difference between Android and iOS there since 2012!?
3:2

Cloud photo backup => uhm what?
3:2

Battery stats => ok i'll give it to Android
3:3

So actually the graphic shows nothing of substantial value. Sure there are differences, but if you actually listen to what Apple says, it fits into their way of doing things.

And of course => people bought the Apple stuff... so did others with Android devices. It's really good to have 2 (or 3) competitors. Remember Win95?

Well sorry for the off-topic!

 

[ScottishDuck]

You're still missing the point that 64-bit processors only have a real benefit with devices with at least 4GB ram. Most manufacturers are smart enough to know this, which is why there has never been a real rush toward a 64-bit smartphone environment.

It's well known that Apple simply did this to add a bulletpoint for their devices. Having a 64-bit processor with 1GB of ram is next to useless.

What a beautiful piece of misinformation that so many people seem to believe for some reason, most likely because the manner in which Microsoft was selling 64-bit editions of windows for so long.

64-bit carries a lot of advantages that even a simple google search could explain to you. It allows for double performance in certain scenarios, most importantly.

 

[Dinozero]

Ok this is the second post i've made on this site in 8 years but dang you guys are killing me I got to.

For the record I got the original iphone on launch and have gotten a new one every two years, got my 128GB Iphone 6 preordered. I have never owned an android phone but I did have a Nexus 7 for awhile and sold it because I just don't see the need for a tablet. I got a super nice laptop and a sweet phone.. I never used the Tab.


Anyways.. my point is this.. The flogging of Samsung in this thread is unbelievable. Actually, the misunderstandings of both brands value in the world is unbelievable. Have none of you "Apple Fanboys" ever read Steve Jobs Biography? I have!! It is known and accepted that Steve admitted when it comes to "Mass Sales" Micrsoft's business strategy was better.. They WON in a "Business" sense.. Also.. Android following Microsoft has done the same thing in the phone world... Samsung sells way more phones a year than Apple does.. and they always will... So Samsung is not "Freaking out" over Iphone 6 preorders..

Bottom line is this.. Apple makes products more comparable to a "Cadillac" and Android makes more mass market appealing products that would be more like a "Chevy or GM" vehicle.

Apple wants to be a PREMIUM product (Read: Some people may say "overpriced") and Android is a MASS MARKET appeal product..

In every aspect of life... CARS, BOTTLED WATER, TVS, COMPUTERS, APPLIANCES.. Whatever.. There will always be "Premium" products and "Mass Appeal" products... Premium guys will always tout higher quality while everyone will say your a tool for spending more.. Isn't it up to whatever makes you feel best?

What's funny is in the TV World Samsung is Apple.. Very good, but also very over priced.. Vizio for example a lot of people think is a much better value for your dollar than Samsung..

Apple products will always have an "Apple Tax" but for the people that enjoy Apple products it's more than worth it...




Market Share by OEM
Samsung 26.4%
Nokia 14.7%
Apple 7.7%
LG 4.2%
ZTE 3.3%
Huawei 3.5%
TCL (Alcatel) 3.2%
Lenovo 2.9%
CoolPad (Yuloong) 2.4%
Sony Mobile 2.3%
Blackberry 0.8%
HTC 1.1%
Xiaomi 1.1%
Motorola 0.9%
http://www.fiercewireless.com/europe/special-reports/analyzing-worlds-14-biggest-handset-makers-q3-2013



For the record, I have yet to buy a ipad, or a Macbook (I Have a high end HP envy laptop) not because I don't want one.. but because in those product catagories the Apple Tax is just not worth it to me... I got a Windows laptop that for %25 of the cost of the Macbook Pro.....all metal casing, HD screen, and it had better specs... I just couldn't justify it..

The phones however.. especially with the contract pricing has really helped Apple in that regard.. A lot of people that could never or would never typically afford an Apple product can in the cellphone game........ because the carrier is paying for 75% for the cost of the phone.

 

[RealMonster]

The phones however.. especially with the contract pricing has really helped Apple in that regard.. A lot of people that could never or would never typically afford an Apple product can in the cellphone game........ because the carrier is paying for 75% for the cost of the phone.

Oh, you always pay for the phone in the end. The carrier hides the total cost by offering an up-front cost. They make the rest back on the elevated cost of the plan. It's effectively a low-interest financing option.

 

[Sgh808]

How do you even buy two??? I still can't figure out how you're supposed to buy 2 phones for the same phone number without either paying full price for one or setting up a new phone line!?

I have read posts on here where people have outright bought both in order to choose but as someone who quoted me since said, the number of people who have/are able to do that is infinitesimal.

 

[Dinozero]

Oh, you always pay for the phone in the end. The carrier hides the total cost by offering an up-front cost. They make the rest back on the elevated cost of the plan. It's effectively a low-interest financing option.

I've actually just realized this. I have made my mind up. I'm going to upgrade, get the phone and then cancel the next day and switch to straightalk.

The ETF is still less than the discount they're giving me on the phone. I'll end up paying 765 for it instead of 850..

But yeah, I completely agree with you!! Been paying over 100 a month for ATT with one line for over 8 years. They've gotten their money from me.

 

[RealMonster]

I've actually just realized this. I have made my mind up. I'm going to upgrade, get the phone and then cancel the next day and switch to straightalk.

The ETF is still less than the discount they're giving me on the phone. I'll end up paying 765 for it instead of 850..

But yeah, I completely agree with you!! Been paying over 100 a month for ATT with one line for over 8 years. They've gotten their money from me.

I ran the numbers and figured out that it was worth it, but only if I keep the phone for 4 years and immediately switch to a cheaper plan after 2 years. I'd pay for the phone up front, but that's a huge outlay all at once, so the carrier option is better for now.

Given the resale value of the iPhone, I may also finance my next upgrade on my own in 2 years.

 

[Arndroid]

Samsung: "Damn!!"

Samsung: "Quick! Make a commercial making fun of Apple selling twice as money units opening day than ever before!"

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Only 4 million in 24 hours... Hmmmm

You mean to tell me the site was down because Apple couldn't handle 4 million customers in a day? Eeek! That's not good.

Actually the site did handle 4 million customers in a day

 

[koruki]

Only 4 million in 24 hours... Hmmmm

You mean to tell me the site was down because Apple couldn't handle 4 million customers in a day? Eeek! That's not good.

I don't think the customers waited for each other to finish their purchase before the proceeded with theirs on the day. It was likely 4 million in the first few hours. That's including credit card transactions getting verified etc.

 

[richdruitt]

Well my delivery date is 07/10-18/10 and I ordered my 128gb/6+/Gold just within the first 1.5 hours. I couldn't get in to order it for at least the first 45 minutes. The app just showed all as unavailable and the website store was down.

 

[isoft7]

Obviously, the larger size has everything to do with this unprecedented amount of pre-orders. I wouldn't be surprised if these two iPhone 6 models end up selling more units than the 4S, 5, 5S and 5C have so far, combined.

The iPhone6 models will at the very least outsell the last three of the above line-up.

Not likely... 4 million preorders sound like a lot, but, they're playing tricks with the numbers. It's not really all that impressive when compared directly with previous releases. Pre iPhone 4 not included of course.

But yeah, the 6 and 6+ have ZERO chance of selling more total units that the 4S, 5, 5S and 5C combined. ZERO chance in fact.

Take a look at actual sales data, not marketing gimicks from Apples PR department.

 

[tmanto02]

That equates to well over $3bn in one day, and doesn't take into account retail store stock - insane.

Also assume this doesn't include carrier sales?

I would actually assume that it does include carrier orders, considering they are the majority of iPhone sales. Each carrier would simply report back to Apple with their pre-order numbers.

 

[iShater]

LMAO @ Samsung.

 

[mackinmike]

But I thought people didn't want big phones?

They didn't. not until apple told them it is ok... well that time has come. it's ok now.

 

[Tomacorno]

Yeah, but Android ships a billion units a month.

So everyone in the world owns several Android units. The math checks out.

 

[Tycho24]

You're still missing the point that 64-bit processors only have a real benefit with devices with at least 4GB ram. Most manufacturers are smart enough to know this, which is why there has never been a real rush toward a 64-bit smartphone environment.

It's well known that Apple simply did this to add a bulletpoint for their devices. Having a 64-bit processor with 1GB of ram is next to useless.

Lol, your blind and frankly loony fanaticism is showing!!!
You literally can NOT have it both ways!!!!!!!
Either Apple does not care about specs & puts out only the bare minimum necessary to run their OS, & thus trails Android phones, due to this.
OR
Apple pumps completely unnecessary & over the top hardware that the OS can't use or handle for the express purpose of playing a specs sheet game.
You do understand that it cannot POSSIBLY be both at the same time, right?
Right??????!!!!

 

[japanime]

You and I both know that's not happening. iPhone sales are going to explode with these larger screens and Apple won't just reverse course. You'll probably be waiting until "iPhone 7" because my guess is they'll offer it in 3 sizes. 4, 4.7, and 5.5.

Until then you'll have to live with a 5S or older.

You are most likely correct. I do hope they will offer a 4-inch (or even 3.5-inch) model when the iPhone 7 is released. I had already planned to get another year out of my 5s, and I'm OK if I have to wait two.

 

[krravi]

While that's great news for Apple, but to make people wait for weeks or a month? Not good Apple.

 

[AFDoc]

I still think iPhone 4 is their best design. Would be nice if they made a phone and called it 'iPhone 6 Retro' with the same design cues as the iPhone 4. Maybe in 3.5", 4" and 4.7" screen size. Obviously with updated hardware.

I do like the current design of the 5/5s but do agree..... the 4 design was/is sexy. I'd be willing to plunk down the dollars for a 5.5" iPhone that shares the 4/4s design. It would be a heavy SOB but it would be sweet IMHO.

 

[alphaod]

Next ad for Samsung will blast Apple for having customers so much interest in their phones that people are preordering so many for a product that hasn't been released yet.

 

[MaSx]

Before the announcement, Apple fan be like, "No one will buy those 4.7inch or 5.5inch Phablet". LOL. That's a 4 million on them. haha.

 

[jm001]

Yeah, but Android ships a billion units a month.

Android doesn't ship a single unit at all.
Samsung, HTC, LG, Motorola, Huwei, Sony, they all ship units, but Android as a manufacturer doesn't exist.

That said, you would then have to compare Apple to each manufacturer or else it would be like comparing the number of wins of one team to the total number of wins from the rest of the league.