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Apple staying put on simplicity was a selling point for many people. To me, this is like saying people would rather a buy a computer with Tons of freeware and bloatware than one that just has the OS.

To your point, I guess Apple has done their research. People must prefer bedazzled firework messages over standard messages. I'm just concerned I'm not going to be able to explain all of these features to my parents who use iphones.
And they can still use it all just as it is now. Optional things are just that, optional.
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Perhaps Apple is starting to realize what a silly concept Force Touch actually is.
As in making it more useful and used throughout the OS for devices that support it? Right.
 
I wish apple would have given iphone se 3d touch now. I was planning on getting an iPhone se because of the size (I'm tired of my phablets now) but now I'm thinking of just going with a 4.7 6s since iOS 10 is going to making use of 3d touch.

To each his own. I have yet to see 3D Touch used in a way that I would prefer over how I currently use my iPhone.

There is no doubt Apple is setting up 3D Touch to take over as a primary input down the road as new features are added for which there is no other available gesture to accommodate them, at which point we'll all have no choice but to upgrade or do without the new features. Until then, I'm fine.
 
Way to disable this?? Seems bad security wise anyone can pick up your phone reply to a message? Unless it doesnt work like that?

iOS has already worked like this since we first got lock screen notifications. You can disable it if you want to.

Even as a test, using Siri from the lock screen right now, it can read or send messages, but if you ask it to read you new email, it'll ask you to unlock the iPhone first.
 
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New notifications design is nice. Notifications and new Messages app are the best two things shown. While Music app and control center changed for bad.
 
iOS10 Messages is the equivalent of bloatware. I used to prefer the simplicity of Apple's default apps. Apple seems to be moving away from simplicity which is a major disappointment.

Seriously, I think that's going to kill the Messages experience. I just hope we'll be able to disable all those bloated animations and whatnot. I'm not looking forward to those new "enhanced" features.
 
Have had this functionality on every jailbroken iPhone I've owned since the 3GS. LOL. Took them long enough to copy it and swap the name. 'Rich text' notifications. Magical!
 
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iOS10 Messages is the equivalent of bloatware. I used to prefer the simplicity of Apple's default apps. Apple seems to be moving away from simplicity which is a major disappointment.

This "bloat" is what is driving the rapid and massive adoption of messaging apps like WeChat, SnapChat and others. If Apple doesn't offer similar functionality, a significant portion of their userbase will not use iMessages anymore and, perhaps down the road, will not use iOS devices.

I have no use for any of this, myself, but folks like myself are probably becomming the minority of messaging users on iOS.
 
iOS10 Messages is the equivalent of bloatware. I used to prefer the simplicity of Apple's default apps. Apple seems to be moving away from simplicity which is a major disappointment.
"Simplicity" was becoming a cancer among the majority of users, who with all the reason demanded more features. They're delivering and getting in-line with competition.

The new emoji size might nag a little, but otherwise no one is forcing you to either use the app or its new features. If your friends are anything like you, they won't either.

But not adding features is one of the most mediocre things i can think of, and the surely aren't stopping only because persons like you are obsessed with "clean,superior and simple looks" over functionality. And thank god for that
 
So they remove certain Force Touch gestures on WatchOS 3, add new 3D touch gestures in iOS 10, but no one knows where it works and where it doesn't, and 6S owners keep complaining that they never use it. This whole thing is a huge mess, and I'll bet more older users won't really get it.

The key here is to make them a convenient option that users can choose to use, and not make the OS dependant on it... Because that would be stupid.
I'm happy to be one of those who actually use and love 3D Touch.

People are overreacting over this stuff. Arguing how Apple should make it easier to find out where 3D Touch can be used. Fact is that you just can't. At least, not in such an easy manner. The only think I'd think of is telling users that they can press app icons and notifications to get extra options. But letting them know which apps/parts of iOS in particular support this is just impossible.

Anyway, I use 3D Touch a lot. And once you've got used to it it's hard to live without it. And I mean that. Recently I sold my iPad mini 4, but I know that I was pressing on icons the whole time... That's something, isn't it?
 
Lol, I have said this before, MOST 3D touch features could be implemented with a long press. Realize that a 3D touch is really a long press because the time taken to push harder is longer than a typical screen tap, registering force is superfluous.

3D Touch was an over embellished feature to try and come off as some major innovation, but it really was just a reason to keep iPhone costs high by adding $30 of unnecessary circuitry and artificially separate the feature set of the "cheaper" iPhone SE with the "flagship" iPhones.
 
Well they probably didnt want the iPhone SE to miss out on another feature...
I had the same thought. The SE is the 6S, just with a smaller screen, no 3D Touch and no altimeter. Plus, think of all the legacy devices (like the 6 and 5S) that Apple is still currently selling. It wouldn't make sense to have a crucial feature available only on the larger devices. I can live without the current implementation of 3D Touch. But the new implementation could be really useful. I'm glad Apple is working on a way to implement those features on older devices.
 
This was all I could think about while watching this live. Surprised they chose to ignore the security risk altogether.

Why/how did they choose to ignore security?

Security is not changing. You have been able to view and reply to messages and interact with other notifications on the lock screen for years. There always has been an option to disable these abilities to increase privacy.
 
I really do not understand all the complaining from some people. You complain that Apple isn't adding anything new to the iPhone and when they do you complain about it anyway. I swear some people on this site are either just trolls or won't be happy no matter what Apple does.
 
Perhaps Apple is starting to realize what a silly concept Force Touch actually is.
Before this presentation I would have totally agreed with you! I had little to no use for Force Touch on my phone. But here comes additions that basically make it useful so I think Apple is more or less "forcing" you to use it as they continue to add onto their systems. And for those who don't have it, no worries they will have long touch. After a few more generations of devices the long touch will only be force touch. It's their way of making you believe you have to have this feature because it's going to be across the board as they grow. Wouldn't doubt if this was the one thing Tim Cook mentioned as a "couldn't live without" feature.
 
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