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Figured on non-ForceTouch iPhones (i.e.: iPhone SE) these actions would work via a long press similar to live photos. At this time I don't want a ForceTouch iPhone as it adds unnecessary heft to the device in my opinion. My Wife doesn't seem to mind it, but she's not carrying hers around in a suit coat or pants pocket though either.
 
"Simplicity" was becoming a cancer among the majority of users, who with all the reason demanded more features. They're delivering and getting in-line with competition.

The new emoji size might nag a little, but otherwise no one is forcing you to either use the app or its new features. If your friends are anything like you, they won't either.

But not adding features is one of the most mediocre things i can think of, and the surely aren't stopping only because persons like you are obsessed with "clean,superior and simple looks" over functionality. And thank god for that

Add features ... yes. However let's make sure the original basic ones work first.
 
Can anyone explain to me why a "3D touch" gesture cannot simply be replaced with a long press? In all of the experience I have had with 3D Touch on a 6s, I did not see one time where a long press would not work just as well as a force touch. The time delay of a force touch is more then adequate for a long press gesture.
 
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Can anyone explain to me why a "3D touch" gesture cannot simply be replaced with a long press? In all of the experience I have had with 3D Touch on a 6s, I did not see one time where a long press would not work just as well as a force touch. The time delay of a force touch is more then adequate for a long press gesture.

That question has been asked a lot. Have yet to see a good positive answer either way.
 
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Perhaps Apple is starting to realize what a silly concept Force Touch actually is.
Or that 3D Touch is a better implementation of long press. I could never live without the haptic feedback now.
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Can anyone explain to me why a "3D touch" gesture cannot simply be replaced with a long press? In all of the experience I have had with 3D Touch on a 6s, I did not see one time where a long press would not work just as well as a force touch. The time delay of a force touch is more then adequate for a long press gesture.
In some sense I see 3D Touch as similar to long press but with haptic feedback. I'm sure the technology is different and there are other use cases in game and what not. But I'd never go back to a phone that didn't have the Taptic Engine.
 
That question has been asked a lot. Have yet to see a good positive answer either way.
Can anyone explain to me why a "3D touch" gesture cannot simply be replaced with a long press? In all of the experience I have had with 3D Touch on a 6s, I did not see one time where a long press would not work just as well as a force touch. The time delay of a force touch is more then adequate for a long press gesture.

It actually does work and just as well, if not better. I traded in my iPhone 6 for the SE recently (which doesn't have Force Touch) and live photos are viewable by using a long press. I actually prefer it over Force Touch on the 6S and is more seamless in my opinion.
 
Or that 3D Touch is a better implementation of long press. I could never live without the haptic feedback now.
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In some sense I see 3D Touch as similar to long press but with haptic feedback. I'm sure the technology is different and there are other use cases in game and what not. But I'd never go back to a phone that didn't have the Taptic Engine.

Haptic feedback has nothing to do with 3D Touch tech. Just pair haptic feedback with a long press gesture.
 
I feel like this whole thing is so insecure that I won't want to leave my phone anywhere around my workplace anymore!
How has this changed from what we currently have? I can have all kinds of notifications displayed in iOS 9 on my iPhone's lock screen.
 
Can anyone explain to me why a "3D touch" gesture cannot simply be replaced with a long press? In all of the experience I have had with 3D Touch on a 6s, I did not see one time where a long press would not work just as well as a force touch. The time delay of a force touch is more then adequate for a long press gesture.

Apple doesn't have many instances where the two inputs clash. But, how would you solve force touching an app for more options and holding for deletion without 3d touch? Or moving the curser when typing or sliding your finger across the keys for easier selection? They have to start somewhere and I'm sure they will find even better features or solutions with 3d touch. But I agree, many things could use a long hold for the same functionality. 3d touch is imo also a better user experience especially on the watch compared to hold. I don't have a iPhone with it so I can't comment on that. But on the watch I love force touch.
 
I feel like this whole thing is so insecure that I won't want to leave my phone anywhere around my workplace anymore!
Way to over dramatize.
You probably shouldn't own a smart phone in the first place if you can't figure out how to turn off lock screen notifications.
 
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Still, the feature is relegated -- and "optimized" -- for the 6s and 6s Plus in the first iOS 10 beta, with full functionality coming to older-model iPhones in the future.

relegate |ˈreləˌɡāt| verb [ with obj. ] consign or dismiss to an inferior rank or position: they aim to prevent women from being relegated to a secondary role.

Surely this is not what was meant. I am puzzled by what is being said here.
 
bunch of whiners. The messages app itself is not bloatware. Bloatware defines apps that aren't necessary that make the device sluggish. Features of the messages app may not be something that you personally care to use (and those features can potentially slow things down) but at its heart, it's still just a messages app and will be no more difficult to send plain text messages than it is today.

It's like complaining that more emoji were released, whining about emoji being bloatware in the messages app.

This ties into this article too. Is everyone still angry that apple went to a 2-button mouse? It just allows for another method of input. I don't think I'd need it at this point but when I get a phone that has it, I'm not going to whine about those who don't use it or don't know how or when they can.

jeez, just because something isn't big news or seem great to you doesn't automatically make it bad.
 
So they remove certain Force Touch gestures on WatchOS 3, add new 3D touch gestures in iOS 10, but no one knows where it works and where it doesn't, and 6S owners keep complaining that they never use it. This whole thing is a huge mess, and I'll bet more older users won't really get it.

The key here is to make them a convenient option that users can choose to use, and not make the OS dependant on it... Because that would be stupid.

It's an early beta, why would you imagine that all features would be baked in from the start? They still have several months before the release of it. The only reason Apple is saying anything is because sites like MR are asking about it, the general public will figure it out when it's released and has whatever Apple wants it to have at that point.
 
Seeing as many of you have no ability to think past those irrational thoughts that pop into your heads ... HERE are the controls for security at the lock screen. Now stop!

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bunch of whiners. The messages app itself is not bloatware. Bloatware defines apps that aren't necessary that make the device sluggish. Features of the messages app may not be something that you personally care to use (and those features can potentially slow things down) but at its heart, it's still just a messages app and will be no more difficult to send plain text messages than it is today.

It's like complaining that more emoji were released, whining about emoji being bloatware in the messages app.

This ties into this article too. Is everyone still angry that apple went to a 2-button mouse? It just allows for another method of input. I don't think I'd need it at this point but when I get a phone that has it, I'm not going to whine about those who don't use it or don't know how or when they can.

jeez, just because something isn't big news or seem great to you doesn't automatically make it bad.


I think you are being a tad bit unfair.
Allow me, the user to choose whether I want a simple and easy to use message function or one that is fully loaded. iMessage has been "simple" to use and pretty much streamlined. Tossing in MySpace-esque bells and whistles is a definition of bloatware. I know plenty of OEM's on the Android side who did that. At least there users can default an app if they dislike the offering. Here in iOS land ... :rolleyes:
 
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While I think these additions are good, I think the utility of it has decreased with the explosion of Android phones.

While Apple may be profitable, android market share keeps growing and having closed messaging between Apple products doesn't help me that much. Most of my tech friends have moved on to Android, and only older family members or young teens are getting iphones.

I'm not really an emoji lover... so it's just a meh feature for me. However, I'm sure it will be a good future for the teen market.
 
While Apple may be profitable, android market share keeps growing and having closed messaging between Apple products doesn't help me that much.

Well there were rumors of iMessage coming to Android before the keynote. It's possible that once Apple irons out these new features in iOS 10, they will then release it on Android.
 
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Rich notifications are the canary in the coal mine...

Not to beat a dead horse, but I cannot imagine any possible world where Steve Jobs would have approved this nonsense. I sincerely hope there is an option to disable this feature entirely.

Man, I feel embarrassment for Tim Cook's lack of embarrassment. WWDC 2016 was indeed that bad:
 
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