Apple Confirms Rich Notifications Will Come to Devices Without 3D Touch

[Michael Scrip]

Totally agree. I have always said 3-D touch has been nothing more than A gimmick. What can 3-D touch do that a long press cannot accomplish? Why the need to determine pressure as opposed to how long and An icon is pressed?

Long press is a factor of time.

3D-Touch is a factor of pressure.

Two separate input methods that do two different actions.

Without 3D-Touch... how would you accomplish different inputs? Long press and longer press?

 

[coconutxyz]

Seriously this new 3d touch thing is leaving me at an awkward position, on one hand i wanted the better battery life and form factor of SE but on the other hand they implemented many features that require 3d touch technology....clear all notification only with 3d touch, really Apple?

 

[jamesrick80]

A long press will solve the problem for none 3D Touch phones. Apple seems to be forcing those with 3D Touch to actually use it...interesting yet perplexing.

 

[mpavilion]

I wish apple would have given iphone se 3d touch now. I was planning on getting an iPhone se because of the size (I'm tired of my phablets now) but now I'm thinking of just going with a 4.7 6s since iOS 10 is going to making use of 3d touch.

I love the SE (and I'm happy I switched), but 3D Touch is the one thing I do miss from the 6S... and some of these new 3D Touch enhancements look great.
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Can anyone explain to me why a "3D touch" gesture cannot simply be replaced with a long press? In all of the experience I have had with 3D Touch on a 6s, I did not see one time where a long press would not work just as well as a force touch. The time delay of a force touch is more then adequate for a long press gesture.

Using 3D Touch to quickly slide back to the previous app, by pressing the left edge of the screen (e.g., after taking a call when driving, to slide from Phone app back to navigation app) – this can't be replicated w/long-press. (As mentioned above, I miss it!)

Also, even for other purposes, 3DT definitely felt quicker to me than long-press. Pressing on an app icon, and sliding your thumb to the desired action in the pop-up menu... this was fast and satisfying.

 

[coconutxyz]

I love the SE (and I'm happy I switched), but 3D Touch is the one thing I do miss from the 6S... and some of these new 3D Touch enhancements look great.
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Using 3D Touch to quickly slide back to the previous app, by pressing the left edge of the screen (e.g., when driving, after taking a call, to slide from Phone app back to navigation app) – this can't be replicated w/long-press. (As mentioned above, I miss it!)

Also, even for other purposes, 3DT definitely felt quicker to me
than long-press. Pressing on an app icon, and sliding your thumb to the desired action in the pop-up menu... this was fast and satisfying.

now lets hope for a jailbreak for the zephyr like experience

 

[recoil80]

Well they probably didnt want the iPhone SE to miss out on another feature...

Sure.
And 3D touch is missing from most of their devices, including millions of iPads.
3D touch is good to enable quick actions, but they can't release features exclusive for it.

The main problem with 3D touch is that you don't know if it is supported unless you try to press the first time you use an app. That's not good user experience, they ought to find a way to make 3D touch support more obvious to the user, at least the first time an app is used. It is quite frustrating to press and find out that nothing happens

 

[bpcookson]

Apple staying put on simplicity was a selling point for many people. To me, this is like saying people would rather a buy a computer with Tons of freeware and bloatware than one that just has the OS.

To your point, I guess Apple has done their research. People must prefer bedazzled firework messages over standard messages. I'm just concerned I'm not going to be able to explain all of these features to my parents who use iphones.

Simplicity does not mean a lack of features. It's just the implementation that matters. Does it get in the way? Are people going to accidentally invoke these features? Will they be confused when trying to use them?

Also, comparing this stuff to bloatware doesn't make any sense to me. Apple isn't trying to sell anything here beyond the product and native software; they're just adding features. You could instead call these gimmicky and to be fair I wouldn't bat an eyelash, but I also think that a lot of this stuff is going to resonate bigtime with their younger audience.

 

[kyleh22]

I thought everyone hated the default apps.

Everyone hates that they can't delete the default apps. Being able to delete the default apps is the best thing they added it iOS10 IMO

 

[CWallace]

Everyone hates that they can't delete the default apps. Being able to delete the default apps is the best thing they added it iOS10 IMO

It actually does not delete them, it just hides the icon. When you "download" it again from the App Store, it restores the icon. (This per the live Talk Show interview with Apple execs)

 

[C DM]

Everyone hates that they can't delete the default apps. Being able to delete the default apps is the best thing they added it iOS10 IMO

Basically a placebo more than anything else. But likely enough to satisfy most people who mainly go by perception of things.

 

[dk001]

A long press will solve the problem for none 3D Touch phones. Apple seems to be forcing those with 3D Touch to actually use it...interesting yet perplexing.

Use with limited functionality at best. Where you do have it the design is half baked or crippled.
Not sure where they are trying to drive this.
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Simplicity does not mean a lack of features. It's just the implementation that matters. Does it get in the way? Are people going to accidentally invoke these features? Will they be confused when trying to use them?

Also, comparing this stuff to bloatware doesn't make any sense to me. Apple isn't trying to sell anything here beyond the product and native software; they're just adding features. You could instead call these gimmicky and to be fair I wouldn't bat an eyelash, but I also think that a lot of this stuff is going to resonate bigtime with their younger audience.

Bloatware if you cannot turn the additional features off or mute them. Forced to use vs. Choose to use.
I just wish they had fixed search h in iMessage.

 

[mi7chy]

I know it would make it more android-like, but I wish the corners weren't rounded. Not as clean looking.

Glad I'm not the only one who feels this way about overly rounded corners being ugly. Examples...

Ugly

Better

Sexy

 

[duffman9000]

The iPads, including the latest models, don't have 3D Touch either (perhaps it's not even feasible on the large screens?). They will not be able to make iOS reliant on 3D touch for quite some time.
[doublepost=1465938077][/doublepost]I have no strong opinion on the new Message app yet (since I haven't tried it first hand), but more buttons is precisely what you want to avoid on a small-screen GUI.

Oh I agree with adding additional buttons. In this case Apple added a button that can hide the other buttons on the same row where text is entered. I like it.

I think we are entering a time where having a small screen GUI is going limit a person's experience. I'm tired of that experience. I tired of the small targets and small text and the constant swiping to see information.