Apple Considering Major Corporate Expansion in North San Jose

[droidgod]

LOL, Mac uses don't use them much anymore. Keep in mind, Macs are a SMALL share of the computer marketplace. SMALL!!!

lol.. really? with the popularities of netbooks/ultrabooks, more availability of high speed internet, im sorry to say DVDs are part of history.

Infact only 2 weeks back i bought my first ever mac(first time in my life) and ive been using windows based desktops/laptops since Windows 95/98 more than 16 years ago. So i can safely say usage of DVDs have nothing to do with Macs. Its just useless junk lest you are using legacy software that came on discs.

I still use my self assembled desktop which has a DVD writer and have been for nearly 4 years and to tell you the truth, baring the time i used to install Windows 7 from a dvd when i assembled the computer, ive used my dvd drive like 3 times ever. Last time i used it like a year back i found that the power cable was not even connected to the dvd drive(had removed it for some reason a year back).

Even the place i used to work(which employs like over 80k people, all pcs dont have dvd/cd drives. Only laptops have it cause it came with it from the vendor.

Please dont try to make it look like only people who use macs dont use Dvds.. cause even in the windows world its very very rarely used.

 

[santaliqueur]

Probably because they are more than what you think they are. They aren't on the level of the other companies mentioned, but they are much bigger (in many senses of that word) than what's being implied there.

And nothing they do can't be copied and done much better. Think Myspace vs Facebook. They are influential for sure, but every other company mentioned is substantial in one way or another. LinkedIn does nothing special.

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LOL, Mac uses don't use them much anymore. Keep in mind, Macs are a SMALL share of the computer marketplace. SMALL!!!

Take a walk around a college campus and say that with a straight face. MacBooks are everywhere.

Also, market share means nothing. This is a business, and Apple is crushing it in every possible way. Competitors are scrambling to copy their success, as they should be.

 

[winston1236]

And nothing they do can't be copied and done much better. Think Myspace vs Facebook. They are influential for sure, but every other company mentioned is substantial in one way or another. LinkedIn does nothing special.

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Take a walk around a college campus and say that with a straight face. MacBooks are everywhere.

Also, market share means nothing. This is a business, and Apple is crushing it in every possible way. Competitors are scrambling to copy their success, as they should be.

iPhones are everywhere. Macbooks are a tiny portion of the overall market and marketshare means everything.

 

[TMRJIJ]

LOL, Mac uses don't use them much anymore. Keep in mind, Macs are a SMALL share of the computer marketplace. SMALL!!!

Clearly, you haven't seen my college campus.

 

[C DM]

And nothing they do can't be copied and done much better. Think Myspace vs Facebook. They are influential for sure, but every other company mentioned is substantial in one way or another. LinkedIn does nothing special.

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Take a walk around a college campus and say that with a straight face. MacBooks are everywhere.

Also, market share means nothing. This is a business, and Apple is crushing it in every possible way. Competitors are scrambling to copy their success, as they should be.

And yet they are pretty much the de facto professional network that many industries and professionals use for quite a bit of networking and job related needs. Doesn't really seem there's any other player in that particular field that is even close to being on that level, despite apparently it being possible to copy and do whatever they do (let alone better).

 

[s2mikey]

This.

Didn't Apple once get into trouble for chasing profit, not marketshare?

I know marketshare is not everything: You need profit to stay in business. But still... even without iPhone, their profits would match that of Google.

So, could they just start giving iPhones away to boost their market share? No, that's probably too far the other way.

I think the main problem is they're a publicly traded company, and they need to be seen to be constantly "growing". Why? They have enough profit to fund their operations and pay their staff.

If that was a private company, no one would worry. They could afford to do things like make the iPhone way cheaper to boost market share. Or spec their Macs a little better at the sake of profit.

Again... as long as they're still profitable enough to pay the staff and run the company.

In a way, it would be nice for Apple to just do that anyway, and if their stock price crashes, they can use some of their cash to buy themselves off the market. (Amazon's profits have pretty much stayed the same, despite revenue soaring, and their stock price is okay, so it's not a certainty their stock price would crash.)

Many of things you touch on are exactly why I mostly HATE public ownership of companies. It's what's ruined the labor market and cost so many people their livelihoods. Shareholders are extremely obnoxious and never ever happy. You make a trillion, they expect a quintillion. They make 30% profit, you failed....should have been 40%. Then, the heads roll which equates to low level employees and their benefits getting stripped away or eliminated completely because they just must cater to the Grim Reaper shareholders and Wall Street gorillas. Send the work to some god forsaken country. Terrific.

Oh yeah, let's not forget the very crafty tax evasion games that these companies play too. Of course, all in the name of making Wall Street happy. Little do the sheep know that as they clap their hands for Apple and other tax scammers that THEY are now picking up the tab via increased taxes on them and their businesses. For whatever reason that's apparently OK with them though. It's like holding the door open for the guy robbing your house and offering him dinner to boot. Hilarious but sad too.

Privately owned businesses care about people and their employees. They care more about the customer experience too. That's because it's a few real human beings behind the operation rather than a bunch of "investors" who have no skin in the game and care only about numbers.

 

[aront]

The expansion is to house all the new online PR and marketing employees that will be needed to make excuses for all of the Apple, under Tim Cook, failures and disappointments.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

They have more money than (anyone) ever and yet they are becoming worse with their penny pinching techniques.

Apple could do a lot to increase the user experience for customers, but it seems like they're caring less and less. [Not saying that the adapter is the best example, but certainly one of.]

Anyone else think this mega alpha status is not becomjng of the Apple us folk grew to love. Its fast becoming a corporate *******

Agreed. I can't wait for them go the way of MS. A decrease in popularity will shake some sense into them, just like it did with MS in the past couple of years. Microsoft is doing pretty innovative things these days and is focusing on the UX.

 

[Tech198]

Neat building....

So, Apple's take on this is... "It's your fault, we need more land to build our stores."


Sure, build in San Jose... can't be a bad thing ..... But it also could be because they wanna rub elbows with the tough big brutes.

 

[santaliqueur]

marketshare means everything.

To those trying to make Apple look bad.

In actual business, profit means everything. I love how people who think they "know about technology" think market share is important. Apple is a corporation, and their success is unparalleled. Keep telling yourself about that market share. Apple's shareholders couldn't care less.

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And yet they are pretty much the de facto professional network that many industries and professionals use for quite a bit of networking and job related needs. Doesn't really seem there's any other player in that particular field that is even close to being on that level, despite apparently it being possible to copy and do whatever they do (let alone better).

What do they do that is special? Letting users contact other users regarding business? They don't even allow resume upload. $24 Billion worth of company? Hilarious.

 

[C DM]

To those trying to make Apple look bad.

In actual business, profit means everything. I love how people who think they "know about technology" think market share is important. Apple is a corporation, and their success is unparalleled. Keep telling yourself about that market share. Apple's shareholders couldn't care less.

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What do they do that is special? Letting users contact other users regarding business? They don't even allow resume upload. $24 Billion worth of company? Hilarious.

And yet they are still the de facto business networking service nonetheless.

And, yeah, $24 billion is change on the ground many just pass by everyday.

 

[thekeyring]

The expansion is to house all the new online PR and marketing employees that will be needed to make excuses for all of the Apple, under Tim Cook, failures and disappointments.

Great! They can use the same team that helped deal with Antennagate, Ping and the G4 Cube.

And that made us feel like the iPhone 3GS was a revolutionary upgrade and the iPhone 5 nothing worth getting excited about.

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Many of things you touch on are exactly why I mostly HATE public ownership of companies. It's what's ruined the labor market and cost so many people their livelihoods. Shareholders are extremely obnoxious and never ever happy. You make a trillion, they expect a quintillion. They make 30% profit, you failed....should have been 40%. Then, the heads roll which equates to low level employees and their benefits getting stripped away or eliminated completely because they just must cater to the Grim Reaper shareholders and Wall Street gorillas. Send the work to some god forsaken country. Terrific.

Oh yeah, let's not forget the very crafty tax evasion games that these companies play too. Of course, all in the name of making Wall Street happy. Little do the sheep know that as they clap their hands for Apple and other tax scammers that THEY are now picking up the tab via increased taxes on them and their businesses. For whatever reason that's apparently OK with them though. It's like holding the door open for the guy robbing your house and offering him dinner to boot. Hilarious but sad too.

Privately owned businesses care about people and their employees. They care more about the customer experience too. That's because it's a few real human beings behind the operation rather than a bunch of "investors" who have no skin in the game and care only about numbers.

I think there needs to be some tax reform, as there likely will be here in the UK to tackle companies like Starbucks.

And yes, I worked for a small business that was very successful (by small business standards). Their profits weren't growing hugely, but it didn't matter because everyone was paid and there was always a huge amount left over, piling up for future hard times / investment opportunities.

 

[Keane16]

Anyone else think this mega alpha status is not becomjng of the Apple us folk grew to love. Its fast becoming a corporate *******

I'm the opposite. Like you I've used Apple stuff for a long time.

And it's obvious to me that Apple are now more accessible and cheaper than they ever were. Hell recently - the price of the original iPhone was eye-watering - and they had to cut it down. Their computers in the 90's were ridiculously expensive and only for the rich or businesses/education types. I was blown away by the price of the iPad, and also stunned the entry Apple Watch is so cheap - a watch that does 1000x more than my daily analogue version and it costs £100 less whilst offering similar build quality, remarkable.

I also don't exclusively use Apple. So I can see just how good they are. My original Nexus 7 tablet was a joke that fell apart after a few months - with no support mechanism/stores to easily get assistance. Numerous Galaxy and HTC phones which just sat on ancient OS versions - and again crappy customer service avenues. The ThinkPad I use use at work is so far behind comparative MacBooks it isn't even in the same ballpark.

Scale is hard, it's an unfortunate side effect of success. Can they be better -sure, but so can every company. Are they still the best bang for buck when comparing the entire experience? Yes - IMHO.

It's easy to be upset at their mountain of money and expect better - but money is one thing, using it wisely is another. If you're right Apple will fail over the next 5-10 years as they wouldn't be able to screw people over in the manner you're suggesting they are. On the other hand I think they're killing it and my AAPL shares are staying in my portfolio for the long haul.

The fact I bought my parents an iPad 2 at launch, people who have never used a personal computer. Who would get lost around Windows or OS X. And they have used it for years without once calling me for assistance or grumbled about anything shows just how right they're getting it for their target demographic.

 

[santaliqueur]

And yet they are still the de facto business networking service nonetheless.

And, yeah, $24 billion is change on the ground many just pass by everyday.

You are missing my point. They are only top dog because nobody else has come along and done it better. What they are doing is not complicated, unlike every other company listed. They are only being used because everyone else is already using them. A terrible model for stability.

 

[C DM]

You are missing my point. They are only top dog because nobody else has come along and done it better. What they are doing is not complicated, unlike every other company listed. They are only being used because everyone else is already using them. A terrible model for stability.

Same goes for Facebook or various other services--what they are doing is similarly not complicated and they are the top tog because no one else has come along so far to do it better. MySpace was like that until Facebook came along, and same thing can happen to Facebook as well. Same logic applies it would seem.

Anyway, not the topic of discussion in any case.

 

[santaliqueur]

Same goes for Facebook or various other services--what they are doing is similarly not complicated and they are the top tog because no one else has come along so far to do it better. MySpace was like that until Facebook came along, and same thing can happen to Facebook as well. Same logic applies it would seem.

Anyway, not the topic of discussion in any case.

Must we stick to the original topic, or is that you declining to participate anymore?

 

[C DM]

Must we stick to the original topic, or is that you declining to participate anymore?

It's those little things called forum etiquette and rules. And sure, at this point there's not much more to say on that particular side-topic beyond what was already said. ("Nice" bait attempt though.)

 

[santaliqueur]

It's those little things called forum etiquette and rules. And sure, at this point there's not much more to say on that particular side-topic beyond what was already said. ("Nice" bait attempt though.)

You see it as a bait attempt, I was just asking a simple question. Take it however you wish.

 

[Macboy Pro]

Clearly, you haven't seen my college campus.

Yes, you are right. A college campus is a great sample for the statistic of WindowsPC vs Mac usage. LOL

Walk in almost all major corporation. 98% or PC.

I hate PC's but the flipping facts are the facts. Apple's marketshare is VERY SMALL when compared to PC. 13% MAC, 87% Window/Other

 

[C DM]

Yes, you are right. A college campus is a great sample for the statistic of WindowsPC vs Mac usage. LOL

Walk in almost all major corporation. 98% or PC.

I hate PC's but the flipping facts are the facts. Apple's marketshare is VERY SMALL when compared to PC. 13% MAC, 87% Window/Other

It can depend on where as well. Walk into quite a few larger and smaller tech companies in Silicon Valley and you might only see Macs.

 

[Rocketman]

Until they get Campus 2 they need campus 1.14.23 and annexes. Having offices in San Jose eliminates a lot of logistical issues for employees. The only question is where will Campus 3 be? If sales do ever decline, they would be smart to cut early and often. It is a stock company after all. I STRONGLY suggested they go private using debt and key stockholders pre-split at $490. That is split adjusted to $70. AAPL is nominally $130 today.

 

[winston1236]

To those trying to make Apple look bad.

Haha, what? Apple's profit is almost exclusively from a phone.

The rest of their hardware is a tiny percentage. All it takes is one generation to reject the phone the previous generation used and they would be in serious trouble.

 

[santaliqueur]

Haha, what? Apple's profit is almost exclusively from a phone.

The rest of their hardware is a tiny percentage. All it takes is one generation to reject the phone the previous generation used and they would be in serious trouble.

I never knew 1/3 of something was a "tiny percentage".

Nobody is doubting the iPhone makes up a huge chunk of Apples revenue, but stop making it sound like it's 95%. iPad+Mac is still 30% of their revenue for Q4 2014.

 

[Santabean2000]

I'm the opposite. Like you I've used Apple stuff for a long time.

And it's obvious to me that Apple are now more accessible and cheaper than they ever were. Hell recently - the price of the original iPhone was eye-watering - and they had to cut it down. Their computers in the 90's were ridiculously expensive and only for the rich or businesses/education types. I was blown away by the price of the iPad, and also stunned the entry Apple Watch is so cheap - a watch that does 1000x more than my daily analogue version and it costs £100 less whilst offering similar build quality, remarkable.

I also don't exclusively use Apple. So I can see just how good they are. My original Nexus 7 tablet was a joke that fell apart after a few months - with no support mechanism/stores to easily get assistance. Numerous Galaxy and HTC phones which just sat on ancient OS versions - and again crappy customer service avenues. The ThinkPad I use use at work is so far behind comparative MacBooks it isn't even in the same ballpark.

Scale is hard, it's an unfortunate side effect of success. Can they be better -sure, but so can every company. Are they still the best bang for buck when comparing the entire experience? Yes - IMHO.

It's easy to be upset at their mountain of money and expect better - but money is one thing, using it wisely is another. If you're right Apple will fail over the next 5-10 years as they wouldn't be able to screw people over in the manner you're suggesting they are. On the other hand I think they're killing it and my AAPL shares are staying in my portfolio for the long haul.

The fact I bought my parents an iPad 2 at launch, people who have never used a personal computer. Who would get lost around Windows or OS X. And they have used it for years without once calling me for assistance or grumbled about anything shows just how right they're getting it for their target demographic.

Some good points. But I still think that with the reserves they have they could be leaning towards being less stingy rather than more. Esp on the Mac where the volumes are much lower.

The difference to their bottom line would be negligible but the payoff in customer experience would be huge.

 

[winston1236]

I never knew 1/3 of something was a "tiny percentage".

Nobody is doubting the iPhone makes up a huge chunk of Apples revenue, but stop making it sound like it's 95%. iPad+Mac is still 30% of their revenue for Q4 2014.

Wrong again. In Q4 2014 the iPhone was 56.21% of revenue, followed by Mac at 15.73%, iPad at 12.62%, and Services at 10.94%.

And this picture hasn't improved, in 2Q 2015 the iPhone moved up to 69.44% of total revenue, Mac at 9.68%, iPad at 9.36%, and Services at 8.61%.

It's a totally dependent revenue stream on one product. Apple knows this, thats why they are trying out music and the watch to diversify.