Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Wonder many out there are like me who hasn't worn a watch in decades, thinks this is a redundant but limited dongle accessory for phone, has a display even smaller and less useful than iPhone 4/4s and don't care for the hassle of charging another device every night? To get me to even consider it has to look classy, have smarts and at least a week of battery life with always on display.
You obv haven't tried one? I use mine simply for obv the time, messages and apple pay anything else is a bonus YMMV.
 
Do you feel good in your world of hate?

Samsung just has a different approach. And is very successful by the way
The truth is not hate. It’s just interesting how people fall all over them for their model. The thing is, their flagship sales have been much lower since they have been using more of their own designs knowing that Apple will sue them if they go down that road.
 
I feel naked without my Apple Watch. The only time I take it off is to shower, wash dishes, or charge. It is probably on my wrist 21-22 hours a day.
I’ve moved from taking off my Watch (series 5) to shower or wash dishes - anything water related. I normally shower after working out and don’t want to disrupt the heart rate tracking after my workouts, so I just keep it on. And I’ve been wearing it to bed now too, so I’m only charging it in the morning while sitting at my desk. It is crazy just how much it’s become more than a watch.
 
I've been an Apple Watch owner since the first model, and it's a daily companion for me! It's changed a lot from it's ultra-slow processor beginnings to it being a legitimate device.

I can understand why Apple is dominating (It's a great device), but I can't help but wish Apple had a legit competitor in this space. It doesn't have the same drive as the iPhone does to keep innovating.

I do wish the watch battery lasted a lot longer at this point in it's life. It's primarily a fitness and notification checking device for me, and I do wish the battery lasted longer for fitness activities and so I can actually use the sleep tracking function. Those are my primary wishes as the next versions come out.
 
I’ve moved from taking off my Watch (series 5) to shower or wash dishes - anything water related. I normally shower after working out and don’t want to disrupt the heart rate tracking after my workouts, so I just keep it on. And I’ve been wearing it to bed now too, so I’m only charging it in the morning while sitting at my desk. It is crazy just how much it’s become more than a watch.
I sleep with mine as well. I like the silent haptic alarm.

I wouldn't shower with the watch. Water damage isn't covered not to mention different soaps are not good to expose the watch to, if I am not mistaken.
 
Anecdotal, yes, but I literally know no one with anything but an Apple Watch for a smart watch and just a handful with anything but AirPods.

In my own experience, 9/10 people I observe have AirPods and almost 100% have an Apple Watch.
 
That's not a big idea. That's throwing spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks just so that people like you can defend Samsung by saying "well Samsung did XYZ in product number 439248 several years ago!".

Samsung's way of making products is by releasing as many products as they can think of (whether they're good for the user or not) or by blatantly copying Apple. See my previous post. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...bles-market-across-2020.2288416/post-29690117

Apple's way of making products is by figuring out what's good for the user. They're not always right (see Mac Pro 2013), but they sure as hell don't release half baked ideas as much as Samsung.

Steve Jobs Quote: “Good artists copy, great artists steal. We have always been shameless about stealing great ideas”.
.
 
Wonder many out there are like me who hasn't worn a watch in decades, thinks this is a redundant but limited dongle accessory for phone, has a display even smaller and less useful than iPhone 4/4s and don't care for the hassle of charging another device every night? To get me to even consider it has to look classy, have smarts and at least a week of battery life with always on display.

I haven’t worn a watch for years and I have no intention of starting now. The Apple Watch is just another useless gadget I would have to charge every night. I don’t need it and don’t want it. My iPhone has everything I need in a screen size I can actually read.
.
 
So when Apple uses big screens, or OLED screens or adds LTE to their watch, or an always on display which Samsung was already doing, then is Apple copying? When Apple introduces the Pencil (pen) for the tablets, or Qi charging that Samsung has been doing, then is Apple copying? When Apple introduced widgets, which Samsung has had since the S2, then is Apple copying? When Apple introduces 5G to their phones, are they copying? Does that make sense?
Apple invented the modern smartphone and operating system while everyone else was ripping off Blackberry. So does that mean all smartphones after them are copying?
 
  • Like
Reactions: tongxinshe
Wonder many out there are like me who hasn't worn a watch in decades, thinks this is a redundant but limited dongle accessory for phone, has a display even smaller and less useful than iPhone 4/4s and don't care for the hassle of charging another device every night? To get me to even consider it has to look classy, have smarts and at least a week of battery life with always on display.
I am sure there are plenty others like yourself.

Thing is, Apple already has over a billion active iPhones in use. Even if just 10% of them wear apple watches, that's 100 million apple watches out in the wild, which is not an insignificant number when viewed in an absolute sense. Apple can make a product which appeals only to a very particular segment of people in the world, and still be extremely successful and profitable for it.

Personally for me, I don't have any of the hangups you appear to have with the Apple Watch. It's basically an extension of my phone, and lets me perform certain tasks way faster and more conveniently than my iPhone. Things like being able to view my calendar from my wrist (Siri watch face), access Siri, activate shortcuts (have a couple set up to quickly access playlists, dial numbers and message friends), trigger Apple Pay (handy for public transport), remind me to stand during meetings (yes, my principal is aware of this and accepts it), and well, tell the time as well.

I don't find it a hassle to charge every night either, and the last time I have been in a situation where I have had to go multiple days without being able to charge any of my devices, was 2 years ago when I went back for a 2-week military service, and went back to my G-shock watch. Not so much for the battery life, but because I needed something more durable that I wasn't afraid of bruising out in the field, and for time hacks.

Otherwise, looks like my Apple Watch is here to stay, and while I am at it, maybe I will get round to having one of those solo loop bands. :cool:
 
  • Like
Reactions: SuperCachetes
Keep in mind, Samsung heard rumors of the Apple Watch back in 2012 and created 5 smartwatches in a span of 2 years before Apple released their first one.

Then, Samsung took the circular screen from the Moto 360 and took the rotating input mechanism from the Apple Watch to make their new smartwatches. They can't come up with good ideas on their own. They never will.

This goes to show you Samsung has no clue what they're doing. Apply the same logic to folding phones, smart tags, wireless earbuds, etc...being first doesn't mean it's going to be good and today's market proves it.
I can’t speak to the quality of most of their stuff but their earbuds are actually really good, and repairable (if that matters to you).
 
Wonder many out there are like me who hasn't worn a watch in decades, thinks this is a redundant but limited dongle accessory for phone, has a display even smaller and less useful than iPhone 4/4s and don't care for the hassle of charging another device every night? To get me to even consider it has to look classy, have smarts and at least a week of battery life with always on display.
It’s a totally different device to a phone, with a totally different use case. I’m not going to run a marathon handing my phone the whole time, but a watch is perfect. If you don’t do any exercise though, it does lose probably 50% of its usefulness right off the bat.
 
I partially attribute this to the same reason iPads did better than Android tablets. Apple has a more neatly put together ecosystem, so if you want many gadgets that work well with each other, they've got the advantage. The Samsung and whatever watches are all trash in comparison, probably only selling at all because people have Android phones.

Worldwide, it's also likely that people using Android phones only to save money aren't buying watches and tablets to begin with. Goes to show how useful those devices really are.
Not necessarily. Apple has its “cheap” line of items such as the SE line. Even cheaper, the SE line did not perform as expected which links to people still choosing Android over a cheaper Apple device. I do agree with the idea that even with a cheaper device, Apple’s goal is to sell you as much content as possible while gathering your data and analytics (from SE devices.) This includes your health data (from the watch SE) which could potentially be gold to them. Just thinking differently...
 
I partially attribute this to the same reason iPads did better than Android tablets. Apple has a more neatly put together ecosystem, so if you want many gadgets that work well with each other, they've got the advantage. The Samsung and whatever watches are all trash in comparison, probably only selling at all because people have Android phones.

Worldwide, it's also likely that people using Android phones only to save money aren't buying watches and tablets to begin with. Goes to show how useful those devices really are.
I think you have a point. The likes of Xiaomi and Realme are starting to release smart watches. But then you have to ask, does someone who buys a $200 - $300 phone have any interest into buying a smart watch that can cost as much as half of the phone price?
 
  • Like
Reactions: hot-gril
Yeah, or usually I think of dominate as meaning the majority (>50%) rather than plurality.
It's probably just a blogger hyperbole talk. :D

It's still interesting though as the Apple Watch is not a standalone product, it requires an iPhone. Apple is doing something right.

Of course the fact that Google is leaving wearOS to rot and Qualcomm not interested in making decent smart watch capable chip probably are not helping the competitors either, leaving Apple on its own.
 
Meanwhile Apple copies the “how busy a business is” from google, to Apple Maps.

Why stop there? Getting voice over turn by turn directions was totally lifted from these GPS devices that existed way before the iPhone. Even worse! iPhone totally copied the voice calling feature from the first cell phone! Actually, let's go further! Apple totally copied the idea of slapping a battery onto an electronic device to make it portable!! 🤦‍♂️

Not the point.

Also this “market domination”really depends on which news you read...

Considering "domination" is subjective, why wouldn'it it be?
 
Not necessarily. Apple has its “cheap” line of items such as the SE line. Even cheaper, the SE line did not perform as expected which links to people still choosing Android over a cheaper Apple device. I do agree with the idea that even with a cheaper device, Apple’s goal is to sell you as much content as possible while gathering your data and analytics (from SE devices.) This includes your health data (from the watch SE) which could potentially be gold to them. Just thinking differently...
The health data is encrypted, even on the iCloud backup, at least from my knowledge. Curious if there are findings of your claim of Apple collecting the health data. Seriously curious as this was never mentioned ever.
 
You should work for Samsung. Then you can tell them all the things they are doing wrong and how to fix it. Instead of making comments about how they are doing it wrong, be a part of the solution. But I get it. It’s much easier to complain and call people names then it is to actually do something.
I think the Samsung bashing is pretty lame. But your comment makes zero sense. Why would anyone want to "solve" whatever you think the problem is? There's no benefit to society in helping Samsung to "innovate" or whatever, and Samsung isn't making lucrative offers to Macrumors readers to help them out.
 
no competition, not good for the costumer

the software improves slowly and the interface is pretty much the same for the last 7 years..

as costumers, we need alternatives so that apple will take the Apple Watch to places we don't know yet, think about what the MS surface created in the iPad space.
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.