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Apple’s goal is to sell you as much content as possible while gathering your data and analytics (from SE devices.) This includes your health data (from the watch SE) which could potentially be gold to them. Just thinking differently...
Apple does not collect have access to your health data. Cannot monetize what they do not have.
 
Apple watch is so fugly, they should make it round, they'd sell even more.
Nope, they would sell fewer. Why would I want a device that is round and has less screen real estate for displaying information? Traditional watches were round as they primarily displayed the data from the hands. That is not the case for Apple Watches.
 
Nope, they would sell fewer. Why would I want a device that is round and has less screen real estate for displaying information? Traditional watches were round as they primarily displayed the data from the hands. That is not the case for Apple Watches.

Well neither of us know for sure, but it would be much nicer looking, it would appeal to more people.
As it is, the Apple watch looks like a toy, the watch faces are fugly, if they looked better, imo, they would sell more, but they won't change the shape as it is now too recognizable in a world full of round watches.

Apple could make it triangle shaped and it would sell millions, they are the McDonald's of electronics.
 
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As it is, the Apple watch looks like a toy, the watch faces are fugly, if they looked better, imo, they would sell more, but they won't change the shape as it is now too recognizable in a world full of round watches.
I too can turn this argument around on its head. Maybe the reason why android wear smartwatches are round is precisely to set it apart from the Apple Watch, and not because it's genuinely better for the end user experience. And maybe the reason why Apple won't change its shape is because a square is the ideal shape to be consuming information with. There's a reason why television sets and computer monitors aren't round either.

I have seen smartly-dressed newscasters sport apple watches on tv, so it's clearly fashionable enough for them to be seen in public with. Apple seems to be doing just fine with the Apple Watch. Maybe you should save your concern for the android smartwear scene, which doesn't seem to be doing so hot itself.
 
I too can turn this argument around on its head. Maybe the reason why android wear smartwatches are round is precisely to set it apart from the Apple Watch, and not because it's genuinely better for the end user experience. And maybe the reason why Apple won't change its shape is because a square is the ideal shape to be consuming information with. There's a reason why television sets and computer monitors aren't round either.

I have seen smartly-dressed newscasters sport apple watches on tv, so it's clearly fashionable enough for them to be seen in public with. Apple seems to be doing just fine with the Apple Watch. Maybe you should save your concern for the android smartwear scene, which doesn't seem to be doing so hot itself.

Samsung used to make square smartwatches, y'know, before Apple, they would have the metrics to know which one sold better, if it were square, do you think they'd still be making round watches?

As for concern, they all seem to be growing in sales and personally I'm not concerned about individual companies doing well, this has nothing to do with me thinking a round Apple watch would sell better.

I still think the Apple watch is ugly and toylike and round watchfaces on a square device is fugly, personally, I think a round Apple watch would be more appealing to a wider Apple audience.

*disclosure* I have used a Gear 3 Frontier for nearly 5 years, I guess I'm a little biased.
 
The truth is not hate. It’s just interesting how people fall all over them for their model. The thing is, their flagship sales have been much lower since they have been using more of their own designs knowing that Apple will sue them if they go down that road.
Fact is - their 5G phones are way superior in 5G quality
 
Samsung used to make square smartwatches, y'know, before Apple, they would have the metrics to know which one sold better, if it were square, do you think they'd still be making round watches?
Like you said - they made square watches before the Apple Watch was a thing and then pivoted to round watches after the Apple Watch was released.

My guess is that Samsung desperately wanted to stand out from Apple. As for why Samsung continues to stick with circular smartwatches, one theory I have is that the company invested too much in its rotating bezel to move beyond it and truly embrace a non-circular design. Moving past the rotating bezel would require Samsung to redo large portions of its smartwatch strategy and come up with something resembling Apple Watch's Digital Crown. And it would be hard to make a square smartwatch that doesn't resemble the Apple Watch.

Repeat after me - there is no smartwatch market. There is only an Apple Watch market. The Apple Watch market, to be more precise.
As for concern, they all seem to be growing in sales and personally I'm not concerned about individual companies doing well, this has nothing to do with me thinking a round Apple watch would sell better.
It's more than that. It's about looking beyond surface-level stuff like "I would like to see a round Apple Watch", and realising that a company like Samsung, for all their puff about being an "experience innovator", is still lagging behind when it comes to offering cohesive experiences. Samsung is essentially relying more and more on its hardware chops in order to get around what is pretty much a nonexistent software and services portfolio.

In contrast, the Apple Watch shows what is possible only when you have a company that controls the hardware, software and the services powering said device. From custom processors to watchOS to Siri to iMessage to apple music.

Samsung lacks vision. The galaxy fold doesn't spark imagination or intrigue. Their normal smartphone line is simply a bunch of numbers of a piece of paper, and their wearables strategy is going nowhere.

Meanwhile, with Apple, the takeaways often end up being related more to how Apple is setting the stage for the future. Certain announcements and features make much more sense when thinking about what Apple will likely unveil the following year. But for Samsung, it's the opposite. There's no coherent vision when it comes to the future as far as I can see.

Apple doesn't need a round smartwatch. It's precisely what it, and Apple, needs it to be.
 
Well can we blame Apple? Competition sucks and smartwatches in general (except for Apple Watch) is pathetic.. Either stuck with wearOS, or too simplistic to be useful like a $30 fitness tracker.

Nothing works as seamless as iPhone paired to the Apple Watch. Plus I've got my own life-changing experience with my Watch. I wouldn't switch to any other brands.
 
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I sleep with mine as well. I like the silent haptic alarm.

I wouldn't shower with the watch. Water damage isn't covered not to mention different soaps are not good to expose the watch to, if I am not mistaken.
I’m in the shower for such a short period of time and only once or twice in the past couple of years did I get the alert to turn the crown to get water out of the speaker grills.

I also only use warm to cold water and mild liquid soap on a washcloth, plus given my workout sweat, it’s better to get it rinsed off, as salt is far more corrosive than anything I use in the shower. Sure, it’s possible that it will have an effect over time, but I’ll more than likely upgrade before I’ll see an issue.
 
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Apple watch is so fugly, they should make it round, they'd sell even more.

There's a reason for rectangular Apple Watch, they're able to display more texts and infos on screen. Have you tried round vs square dining table at the same size? Which one packs more items?

With a tiny display sits on your wrist, every pixel counts. Just like 40mm vs 44mm Apple Watch, only a "mere" 4mm difference but in real-life, it's very noticeable.
 
There's a reason for rectangular Apple Watch, they're able to display more texts and infos on screen. Have you tried round vs square dining table at the same size? Which one packs more items?

I've used a round watch for nearly 5 years, reading on the screen is easy, just turn the bezel if you need to scroll, it's not hard.
I get that a square screen is more useful for blocks of text, but I still maintain a round smartwatch looks much better.

As for the table analogy, if it's the same surface area, then roughly the same items? I really don't know or care.
 
I've used a round watch for nearly 5 years, reading on the screen is easy, just turn the bezel if you need to scroll, it's not hard.
I get that a square screen is more useful for blocks of text, but I still maintain a round smartwatch looks much better.

As for the table analogy, if it's the same surface area, then roughly the same items? I really don't know or care.
Just an example for my workouts, it's important for me to able to see multiple metrics at once.. with a squircle, I can glance all 4 rows at once without scrolling. All with the same large text.

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Round display only able to make room for a single, prabably two rows of large text and the rest must be minimized.
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Just an example for my workouts, it's important for me to able to see multiple metrics at once.. with a squircle, I can glance all 4 rows at once without scrolling. All with the same large text.

multiple-metric.png


Round display only able to make room for a single, prabably two rows of large text and the rest must be minimized.
galaxy-watch-active-review-feat.jpg

y,know, one is using smaller fonts than the other, if the round one had smaller fonts, like the"Multiple Metric" view, there'd be more info on the screen right?


Well blow me over, they even include titles! even more information, fancy that.
And I'd say the round watch still looks a hell of a lot better.....IMO of course.
 
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Yeah - like apple - steve also admitted it.
apple is a copy machine - and makes an eco-system out of it

lets talk about air-tags soon - to underline my point
But when they do, they’ll be more than just a homing beacon. There's a reason it’s taking 4 years.
Meanwhile Apple copies the “how busy a business is” from google, to Apple Maps. Also this “market domination”really depends on which news you read...
Well that’s a shame for Google when you compare results on the stock market. Most Apple bashing is just from people who can’t stand that Apple products like their wearables and tablets and computers are doing so much better than the Google equivalent. Chromebook anyone? Who here has a Google music account?

Apple Music v Spotify
Apple Fitness+ v Peleton
Mac M1 v [yet to be advised]
iPad v [Windows ARM?]
iPhone v iPhone wannabes
Homepod v Listening Devices
Apple Watch v ‘others’ (nearest competitor)

Where does Google feature in all of this? Google lead in Maps and Data Theft.
 
Yeah - like apple - steve also admitted it.
apple is a copy machine - and makes an eco-system out of it

lets talk about air-tags soon - to underline my point


Air-Tags proves my point which you seem to be completely missing. Samsung heard rumors of air tags, threw spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks by hastily bring to market a watered down tagging device, and brainwashes people like you to say "Samsung is first! True innovators!".
 

Air-Tags proves my point which you seem to be completely missing. Samsung heard rumors of air tags, threw spaghetti against the wall to see what sticks by hastily bring to market a watered down tagging device, and brainwashes people like you to say "Samsung is first! True innovators!".
“Samsung heard” rumours and skittles off to make something before Apple...are you listening to yourself? This isn’t the school playground. Have you thought that there is a remote possibility that they had noticed what Tile had been doing for nearly 10 years or perhaps that is what Apple has noticed. Samsung “Smart Things” (their first tracker device) was launched more than two and a half years ago (which probably means they had been working on something for two years before that) before even Apple had been chatting (apparently very loudly!) about Air Tags.
 
I've used a round watch for nearly 5 years, reading on the screen is easy, just turn the bezel if you need to scroll, it's not hard.
I get that a square screen is more useful for blocks of text, but I still maintain a round smartwatch looks much better.

As for the table analogy, if it's the same surface area, then roughly the same items? I really don't know or care.
I was always under the impression that Apple only sold anything because it looked good. Yet here we are saying the Apple Watch looks ugly but sells by the boat load.

Im confused as to which it is.
 
You call 36.2% market share “Dominate”? What a joke!

You know what is true “Dominate”? Microsoft’s Windows system takes >95% of PC market, Google’s Android takes >85% of SmartPhone market, Google’s search engine takes >80% of search engine market, Google ads takes >80% of advertisement market, these, are true “Dominate”.
Well I would say that over 1/3 of the marcet and larger than your 2 closest competitors combined is dominating in some sense yes., esp since apple aint exactly famous for spamming the market with 200 models in acry color an price range
 
Well neither of us know for sure, but it would be much nicer looking, it would appeal to more people.
Please provide some support for your statement. I see no evidence that is true. Digital watches have had square/rectangular faces for 50 years.
if they looked better, imo, they would sell more, but they won't change the shape as it is now too recognizable in a world full of round watches.
I am curious, if round faces are so much more popular, why have none of the round faced watches out sold the Apple Watch?
Apple could make it triangle shaped and it would sell millions, they are the McDonald's of electronics.
When Apple sells more than Samsung, Microsoft, or Google in a space, they are McDonalds, but when they sell less, it is because they are just niche. Also, as someone else said, Apple products are only popular because of their style, except when they are only popular because they are a religion or a cult or a monopoly. Got it. Thanks for clarifying
 
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