Just as well. All we need are apps that contribute to and multiply the overload of useless information.
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Apple Continues War on Notification Center Widgets, Asks 'Drafts' to Remove Note Creation Feature
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I still prefer to think of the iPhone as a music playing phone that happens to have internet. With occasional directions/photos. I don't want it to be or act like a real computer (but I still want the power and customization jailbreaking brings with it). But that's just me. And what do I know, I'm still on iOS 6.
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Stupifying OS X would be like selling you the truck and then not letting you leave downtown.
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Yes. This. This will be my mantra until I die.
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But when those same developers see similar functionality being used by other developers' widgets could they not assume the functionality is okay? Could that assumption be further bolstered by the fact of their own widget being accepted? I mean if I am a developer and I see widgets with actionable function already approved and running and my actionable functions get approved as well, what else am I supposed to think?
Add to that, I see Apple allow a widget to have higher function in the NC, ban it, and then turn around and allow it back. So where are the explicit dos and don'ts in that scenario?
I didn't realize Apple wanted to keep their notifications center a knock off of Androids.
I mean, if it doesn't damage the UX then why ban it?
I mean, if it doesn't damage the UX then why ban it?
Maybe this apps allow a vulnerability that would provide -for example- a way to bypass the lock screen?
Also, I would question the logic behind allowing creating documents, etc. on a notification screen, but maybe that's just me.
I just threw up in my mouth.
People know their phone will look like that, because its the reason they downloaded it in the first place! There are pictures in the app store.... its not like the old text only JC Penny Catalogue via compuserv era of internet.
The only people hindering the IOS experience are from Cupertino. There is a reason they are hemorrhaging marketshare to competitors.
That you would defend it is a face slap moment. Especially since they tell the developer that can do these things.... then... tell certain developers no and others yes doing... THE SAME THING!
If I bloody want to add a feature, then let me! The user can disable the notifications for each app, right? SO if you didn't like what it did, you could.... turn it off? Or do you need Cupertino to wipe your arse for you too?
For every step forward, apple takes two backward. They touted in the keynote all these changes that addressed all the primary reasons people have left IOS for Android.... and after the new iPhones shipped and IOS 8 launched, they said, SIKE! But hey, you can pick a keyboard now and your app screen rotates. Welcome to 2005.
I think the problem is that it's named "Today"- rename it to "Widgets" and they should allow all of these. Maybe we should go back to the 3 tab setup.
Indeed, Apple's vision is to make money, and lots of it. People seem to think they're something other than a corporation.
okay, but why does Apple care if users can put shortcuts to apps in the notification area?
Part of what I meant is pretty much what you expanded on. It's definitely not a prison, but it's also not a plain open field either. The main point I was driving at is that these various things are known and have been known of years, and to be outraged about them is rather silly and unproductive. It's one thing to dislike certain aspects or wish that something was better or different, but that's quite a ways from various posts that are simply questioning why people even bother with iOS (and in the process also basically implying that those people aren't thinking for yourself). That's not really discussing some aspects of things or anything like that, that's just empty rhetoric at best given that nothing really new or useful comes from that.I'm going to have to disagree with your opinion. Not your opinion of an informed person making a decision; with that I agree completely. It's your assessment of iOS I take issue with. You're implying iOS is all about Apple's vision of how things should be for everyone. At least that's what I get from what you wrote. I think iOS is Apple's vision of how a mobile OS should run; as in a cohesive blend of software and hardware to provide a great user experience. The products of that vision are, in my opinion, to be used by the consumer in their own way. That's why you will rarely ever find two iPhones containing the exact same apps. If it was about Apple's vision for everyone, wouldn't all the apps Apple thought we needed be preloaded? Also there would be no need for an app store beyond music and games. If Apple wanted to add an app to their vision they would just download it to your phone. You know, like the U2 album. Sorry couldn't resist.In other words, Apple would curate all the devices. I think Apple provides a base platform for individuals to express their own preferences.
What you propose is neither straightforward nor rational (I should say my interpretation of what you propose. I could be dead wrong). No one would go for that. The garden may be walled but it's not a prison. Nor is it a take it or leave it proposition. It's entirely reasonable for someone to not like some thing about a product or service and still like it overall.
There's nothing not smooth about the new Android OS's. This topic is a key one as putting a shortcut to an app in the notification pull down area is easy to do and allowed. I really don't get why Apple frowns on it.
That's why guidelines for new features are somewhat fluid especially in the beginning. It's not great, but it's the reality of things. It will settle down as this won't be new anymore and more cases are covered in a better way in the guidelines and more reviewers are better trained at applying the newer guidelines in a more consistent way.
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Because clearly by having some guidelines (which are being refined at times) means that it's completely closed or even as closed as it was before iOS 8.I'm sooooo glad they are starting to open up iOs.
It will not happen.
Allowing only Appstore software on OS X will effectively kill the platform for the mainstream to power user. This would of course, be no problem to the basic dumbed down user who just uses 'iWorks', email and internet on a daily basis - but a Mac is already overkill for such uses.
There are way too many applications not on the AppStore available, that people need day to day that could never appear based upon Apple's current submission rules.
The truck you speak of would be windows, or linux, but not a Mac.
Allowing only Appstore software on OS X will effectively kill the platform for the mainstream to power user. This would of course, be no problem to the basic dumbed down user who just uses 'iWorks', email and internet on a daily basis - but a Mac is already overkill for such uses.
There are way too many applications not on the AppStore available, that people need day to day that could never appear based upon Apple's current submission rules.
The truck you speak of would be windows, or linux, but not a Mac.
Crazy stupid talk....but seems to be the Apple way.
"Apple's boundaries of what is acceptable"
No thanks...much rather have my phone function according to how I want it to function. I don't need Apple to tell me that I can or can't put a shortcut to launch an app in my notifications are. Thankfully this feature is allowed and works great on Android.
It will end up being very bad for some users. Malware will be an serious issue, lots of cracked apps, and general nasty stuff that is all over Android.
It is your choice which side you want. A open source, somewhat less secure Android or a closed source, secure but limited, iOS. There is nothing in between.
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You made your choice. Enjoy Android.
It's happening now. Right now. As we speak.
The average user will buy a Mac and use the Mac App Store. If they happen to find a piece of software on the Internet and try to install it they'll most likely get an error. Then they'll have to find out how to enable application installs from everywhere.
Right now, it's deafulted to 'Mac App Store and identified developers'. How much longer before its set to just 'Mac App Store' by default? Two years? Three years? Then how much longer before the option to even change it is removed?
It's already been decided.
Don't intend to be that guy, but man, "le walld garten" is in full force here. My goodness, a talented iOS dev puts out a widget that does stuff? LE HORRORS! (lol, BTW)
So happy with my Note 4. Best of luck, iOS users, sheesh. And please spare us "but but but malwares!!11"
No. 100% FUD. Sure if you use shady .apk sites (or jailbroken iOS sites) malware is a risk. But stock Google Play Store/iOS Store? NOPE. Truth, delivered. Fact.
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So happy with my Note 4. Best of luck, iOS users, sheesh. And please spare us "but but but malwares!!11"
No. 100% FUD. Sure if you use shady .apk sites (or jailbroken iOS sites) malware is a risk. But stock Google Play Store/iOS Store? NOPE. Truth, delivered. Fact.
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Please point to where malware is all over android, especially when it comes to apps like Notification Toggle that allow customizing the notification panel extensively.
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Pure FUD.
Are you sure about that? Based on the average dumb users I've seen in my classes using Macs, they don't really use that many apps from the Mac App Store. Heck, some of them never even opened the mac app store. I know, I watch them work on their macs and they don't even know how to use some of the multitouch gestures.
I believe Google Chrome, made by identified developers, is something an average user would get. This browser is more popular than the preload Safari and Google never even thought about putting it in MAS. The same goes for a lot of major development teams and app companies. Dropbox, Skype, Adobe Creative Suite, Microsoft Office etc. - Most of these not on the app store for macs yet average users seem to have it.
OS X is not like iOS, and if Apple decides to treat it this way and remove that option in the system preferences, it will be a disaster for the average users as well as the smarter ones like us.
Yes and primarily because of crap like this from Apple. I thought over the past 1-2yrs they would have stopped doing this stuff but I guess not. It's MY PHONE and I like it to be a Smart Phone that functions they way I want it to function not solely how they want it to serve me.
It took until what this latest OS release for Apple to finally make a notification panel that is worth a darn and actually make widgets function properly and now they take away such a simple function that a developer put in place because "they" don't want it. Tough crap to the devs and users because as usual, it's about them not the devs or users. Nothing new here....but hey, in iOS 9 if they finally allow it and build it into the OS, they will be haled as heros and innovators.