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It sure looks like Apple is going strongly towards what Steve said in the iPad launch, "a mobile devices company". They're investing more in developing the iPhone OS instead of OS X. Most public interest (other than this forum) is in iPads/Pods/Phones instead of computers. And they never update their laptops. :(

Too bad, they make the most kickass machines.
I would like to see your numbers related to "investing more in developing the iPhone OS instead of OSX". I think Apple has plenty of resources and has development teams dedicated to each. I have seen nor read anything that would indicate that one is a priority over the other.

Don't forget, Apple feels that laptops are "mobile" devices. Laptops run OS X. Simple as that.

The ultimate end game here is that relatively inexpensive, popular mobile devices help to sell the more expensive, profit driven laptops and desktops.
 
He is 100% right.

Problem is I am much dumber than the average netbook buyer, because I made this mistake twice.

The second time I figured, all it needed was a little bit bigger screen and a little more horsepower right?
 
Right, so at some Goldman conference (who BTW are reported to be some of the biggest crooks on the planet, and may well be the driving force behind the global financial meltdown), you're looking to interpret what some COO says, which will be 100% party line.

Full of cliches (people are our most important asset, blah, blah) and hot air. I could have come up with those answers myself. There is *no* point analysing this further.

And no, Apple will not make their own CPUs, unless they get into bed with AMD. Buying and ARM IP core is not equal to making a x86 chipset.


Now where's my new MBP?
 
I'm not wondering why I bought mine. I use it all the time. It's compact and it can do anything I want a computer to do. It has amazing battery life and when I do anthropological fieldwork it is easy to break out and type notes on (with the benefit of a full keyboard). I think it's hilarious when Apple tries to defend their obsessions such as being vehemently anti-netbook. Jobs gave no real reason why netbooks were bad other than that "they are cheap laptops." So what?

What netbook do you have that has a full keyboard?

Most laptops don't even have a full keyboard.

Or are you talking about you carry a regular keyboard around with your netbook to type notes on?

I just put my full keyboard up to my macbook pro, and if you exclude the numeric keypad on it, it is about the same width as the entire macbook pro.

So what netbook is wider than a macbook pro to have a full keyboard? Or maybe by full keyboard you meant one with all the letter of the alphabet? To be honest I am not sure what you meant.
 
Netbooks are the worst. I have a Dell mini9 Hackintosh, 2GB Ram, 64GB runcore SSD, BT, 1.3MP webcam. IOW - as completely bitched out as you can make the thing. And there's only ONE thing I like about it: small form factor and low weight. Other than that...I completely hate it.

The iPad weighs less, has a much thinner profile, and an undoubtedly superior overall experience. And yes I can say that b/c the iPhone already offers a far superior overall experience...

Same deal. Got one and used it with Windows and hated how slow it was. Then hackintoshed it, reveled in the glory and about 3 months later realized it was while it was a bit faster with OSX, it still had a crappy screen and battery life was so pitiful that I ended up carrying around my 17" MBP instead. Good thing the hackintosh got a good premium on CL!
 
Pre-January 2006 MacBook Pros... WTF?
Ah, this was before your time. MacBook Pros were rebranded Powerbooks with an Intel chip. They serve the same purpose and target the same audience. They simply switched places.

I'm glad you asked though. Far too many people on here assume they know the entire history of Apple... who am I kidding, they assume they know everything. :)
 
They were called "PowerBooks" :rolleyes:

Yep. They both have "book" in their names, but other than that...

Ah, this was before your time. MacBook Pros were rebranded Powerbooks with an Intel chip. They serve the same purpose and target the same audience. They simply switched places.

I'm glad you asked though. Far too many people on here assume they know the entire history of Apple... who am I kidding, they assume they know everything. :)

Actually, no. In 2001, I was celebrating my third decade of using microcomputer, personal computers, and such...

But over those decades I've found that diehard Macheads can be a most entertaining group... largely due to their "logic" (or lack of it).
 
Why exactly does the ATV need new hardware? Does it run too slowly to do what it was designed to do?
Your point is excellent. My AppleTV does everything I want it to do. The hardware is sufficient to display HD content and send surround sound. What more do I need in a media center device? Sure, couch surfing and apps would be nice. But I would imagine they could be added to the box without the need of any hardware tweaks. I'm just glad to hear Cook indicate they're still investing in the platform.
 
Your point is excellent. My AppleTV does everything I want it to do. The hardware is sufficient to display HD content and send surround sound. What more do I need in a media center device? Sure, couch surfing and apps would be nice. But I would imagine they could be added to the box without the need of any hardware tweaks. I'm just glad to hear Cook indicate they're still investing in the platform.

What I was getting at is unless there are new features to be added, a spec bump in the ATV would be beyond pointless.
 
As a netbook owner, I completely agree with the statement.

It's interesting to play around with for a while, but it's too small to be good for web browsing, too crappy of a keyboard for typing, too underpowered to matter for much of anything.

It's not bad to use it to telnet into boxes, but that's about it.
 
"Acquiring a company simply to boost our revenue wouldn't be something we'd consider."
YUP,! No Verizon. :) i told you so, i told you so.
poor Vfanboys.
:apple:
Are you suggesting Apple would buy a company with twice the revenue and four times the total assets?
 
Him saying they have no interest in the TV market really means nothing. They said the same thing about tablet computers and phones, too.

Yes I understand. I am actually quite good at interpreting their PR responses. But in this case I believe it because it makes no viable sense for Apple to enter that market at all!
 
More carriers

AT&T has the worst reception here in Orange County... in the other hand the best reception here is with Verizon...
Please, please bring the iPad to Verizon too.
 
" What is the rational in aggressively going after the nintendo ds/ sony psp market whilst ignoring customers who need productivity ie mac book pro potential purchasers?"

I believe they are called "profit margins".
 
I wouldn't worry about OS X neglect. OS X is the glue that holds their entire ecosystem together. If you've been paying attention to Apple's published patents you'd notice that plans for new features have not gone AWOL. I doubt we'll be hearing about big OS X changes before WWDC, but that's nothing uncommon.

Two things I'd add:
[1] Apple aren't going to put out another under the hood release like 10.6 next time, there's no point.
[2] Mac OS X is the platform which iPhone and iPad applications are developed on. If Apple give up on improving the Mac, then how on earth are these going to be developed. It would be an enormous amount of work to bring all the tools across to Windows (admittedly NeXT tried it, but Windows has changed a lot since then, as has NeXT STEP/Mac OS X).
 
I also like his comments about Apple TV. I own an Apple TV and I absolutely love it. I own a Blue Ray player and it collects dust. I believe it will become more viable once the average pc or laptop has 1 TB+ drives... once you can store enough movies to make a decent sized collection.
 
Ironic.

It's like rain on your wedding day

In fact, like most lyrics in that song, rain on your wedding day isn't ironic at all. Just a pain in the bum.

Ironic would be spending a fortune erecting a rain-proof marquee for your wedding only to find that all of the run-off water from the roof ran down a pipe that leaked onto the bride's head.
 
In fact, like most lyrics in that song, rain on your wedding day isn't ironic at all. Just a pain in the bum.

Ironic would be spending a fortune erecting a rain-proof marquee for your wedding only to find that all of the run-off water from the roof ran down a pipe that leaked onto the bride's head.

I was just talking about the lack of irony in the Alanis Morissette song a couple of days ago with some friends. It's refreshing to find somebody that understands how to properly use the term "ironic."
 
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