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I just had a thought... maybe this might also cover the persistent 7.85" product rumors?

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If Apple were to put a larger screen in the next iPhone the resolution will be a multiple of or the same resolution as the current iPhone screen resolution.
 
"Huge headaches" for developers because they have to deal with OH MY GOD TWO RESOLUTIONS?


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Incorrect. Apple currently sells and supports iOS devices with four different screen resolutions (iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4/4S retina, iPad 2, and "new" iPad retina). By my count, adding this new one would make that five (I do expect the 3GS to leave the market sooner or later; actually I expected it to do so nearly a year ago, but chances are developers will still want their apps to support a device that was just recently pulled from the market).
 
Not gonna happen. One of the reasons why iOS is not "fragmented" is because of consistent aspect ratio. If they were to introduce a new one all apps would have to be rewritten to make sure they work with the new phone.
 
Apple needs to come out w/ multiple sizes. 4 inch only and I am gone for sure.

The other thing is, what is the deal w/ the app which cannot run like in computer where it is set to run at certain size(say 3.5 for all old apps) and rest to whatever new size(say 4.5) ?? why not? I don't care if some of my apps do not run in full screen. Who really cares?

It sounds like you need a computer, not an iPhone. I suggest you trash your iPhone and get a computer since you're so unhappy with it.
 
I just had a thought... maybe this might also cover the persistent 7.85" product rumors?

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Reality is, even if they went to 1280x720 (for example), they could still just run current apps at their designed 960x640 resolution, as long as they keep pixel density the same. You just have a black border around the whole app now instead of just on the sides as it would be with this 1152x640 proposition. IOW, the idea that they'd need to keep the smaller axis at 640 pixels is arbitrary. Just take the current iPhone screen and surround it with more pixels on every side. Simple.

Either way, I think that if they do increase resolution, it is highly likely that we'll see the hardware home button go away and probably a new speaker design too. I.e. the screen would essentially become the whole front of the phone.
 
I'm pretty sure we can all agree that the solution presented on The Verge isn't elegant or worthy of Apple. Just look at all the comments from the original article that poke holes in the idea.
 
Exactly. Different ratios are a complete mess to deal with. Different pixel dimensions, assuming identical ratios, is all but transparent at this point on iOS. Higher resolution images are the only major changes developers needed for the retina display.

I don't think it would be a huge problem in most cases though. For apps like twitter or facebook, all that would happen is that you wouldn't have to scroll as much. For apps where the content is rendered dynamically, the fov could simply be adjusted.

The biggest issue would be in apps that have fixed bitmaps, but fixing those is no more difficult than it is to make an ipad version of a program. In the mean time, old apps can be slightly letter boxed without distorting anything.
 
im sure it can be done with little extra size -

When I upgraded to my Atrix 4G last year I was pleasantly surprised that it fit in my old iPhone 3GS Slip Case from Elago. Bigger screen does not always mean bigger phone
 
I thought iOS users hated anything and everything Android?

I believe it's quite the opposite. Android users seem to be unable to afford or want products with value, so carry on a war with their jealousy. I guess you haven't read so many of their posts on this site. It's OK when they get a significant raise at work, but criticize apple when they get paid their worth.
 
I just had a thought... maybe this might also cover the persistent 7.85" product rumors?

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I was curious about what appears to be a dual screen design. Sort of reminds me of the DSi. Let me guess that lower screen portion is for a fixed virtual keyboard.
 
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OR they could just have a 16:9 screen. :rolleyes: All the other screens on Apple products are 16:9 except for iOS devices so why not?

Umm - my apple product is not 16:9. My 2011 Macbook Air 13 is 16:10, as I believe all current MBPs are. Only the 11inch MBA is 16:9. In fact, excluding that one model, no Apple products are 16x9 currently.
 
Incorrect. Apple currently sells and supports iOS devices with four different screen resolutions (iPhone 3GS, iPhone 4/4S retina, iPad 2, and "new" iPad retina). By my count, adding this new one would make that five (I do expect the 3GS to leave the market sooner or later; actually I expected it to do so nearly a year ago, but chances are developers will still want their apps to support a device that was just recently pulled from the market).

Exactly. With my post I just wanted to say that fragmentation is an overrated problem, the bitching about the necessity to keep only one aspect ratio for iPhone is baseless, and Apple needs to introduce another aspect ratio as soon as they introduce a bigger screen, unless they want to keep it for show in an uncomfortable form factor.
 
I don't think it would be a huge problem in most cases though. For apps like twitter or facebook, all that would happen is that you wouldn't have to scroll as much. For apps where the content is rendered dynamically, the fov could simply be adjusted.

The biggest issue would be in apps that have fixed bitmaps, but fixing those is no more difficult than it is to make an ipad version of a program. In the mean time, old apps can be slightly letter boxed without distorting anything.

Yeah, you're totally right. It could be done. I'm just not sure it's a very "Apple" approach. I just have a hard time believing it. There's a huge gulf between "could be done" and "makes sense." What *advantage* does a taller screen give Apple? It's a use-case problem in my mind. Unless this solves some huge usability issue for video consumption at 16:9, or something else I'm not seeing, I don't know why Apple would go to all that trouble.
 
Doubtful. It would fragment iOS like Android, into multiple aspect ratios and screen resolutions... causing huge headaches for developers.

Doesn't have to be a headache if a pillar box or letter box is an option. Since it's roughly the same size, it would be a small pillar box/letterbox and possibly go unnoticed.

The iPhone AND iPad should have simply been 16:9 in the first place. it's the standard for TV, computer, everything. iPad would've been easier to type on if it were a little longer and narrower. iPhone would've displayed video in it's native (larger) format without letterbox. Movies on iPad would've been full screen too instead of letterbox.
 
crazy thought

If you did that, why not make iPhone 5 use Original iPad 1024 vertical resolution and scale the horizontal up to keep the same aspect ratio(~700) as the current phone? Would kinda suck to change the resolution for such a small gain (don't think they'd do it), but it would keep the ppi higher if they increase screen size and would conveniently double into the new Ipad's vertical resolution. If they keep a similar pixel size, non-updated apps would be about the same size as they are on the current phones. Would look like hell though floating in a window on the new screen when switching between updated apps and old ones.
 
It looks strange to me, but I assume that to be because I am so used to the current iPhone screen size.

As long as the device itself isn't significantly larger, I think more screen real-estate is a good thing.
 
just because its inconvinient for devs doesnt mean it should always stay the same ... otherwise we'd still all be playing snake 2 on our "awesome" 1 inch screen ;)

i know people with 3.5, 4.0 and 4.7 screens and the apps all seem to work just fine on each? how can android do it and not apple ... Serious question, i have no clue. Java 1 was already hard enough for me at uni :p
 
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