If Apple was still killing the calculator widgets, I'd understand but otherwise this seems capricious.
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Apple Cracks Down on Notification Center Widgets, Says 'Neato' Must Remove Note Taking Feature
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Any app can log your keystrokes and upload them wherever they want. Using this widget is no different than using the app version of this. Anything you put into it can be sent somewhere and you won't know unless you're sniffing your outgoing traffic. I'm amazed that more people don't realize this.
Anyway, downloaded this just because it's still available. They should change the price to a dollar and rake in some cash before Apple pulls the plug.
Still trying to figure out what the purpose of iOS widgets really is, especially when they're already a bit pointless, now they're making them almost 100% useless. This along with the bugs and poor cellular performance is one of the reasons why my 6+ is up for sale.
This kind of stuff is silly. I agree with Apple on a lot of points in terms of being more tightly controlled than Android, but this just seems ridiculous. Let people use their phones how they want. If something is technically possible within Apple's provided frameworks, it should be permissible, barring malicious apps of course.
Why let developers develop and submit apps which include a keyboard in the first place? The debacle could have been completely avoided if Apple made it clear what is permissible and what is prohibited and also prevented the inclusion of certain functions such as a keyboard from being included in a widget in the first place. You can't leave developers in limbo trying to figure out if their idea or finished widget would be accepted by Apple's subjective clearance process. In many cases, it costs developers time and money that they will have invested into their app. There needs to be certainty, that's the real issue here.
Good for Apple. If too many of these Apps are approved and available, iPhone might start to catch up to Android on functionality and we know Apple can't allow that.
I originally assumed they were intended to collate changing information that you wanted to keep an eye on, such as weather, stocks, sports scores etc, in one place, and not just a different way to present an app function.
I may be wrong, but if that's the case I can see why many will fall foul.
The stupid thing is that they approve apps that don't meet their own guidelines in obvious ways.
I suspect that Apple is increasingly becoming a victim of it's own success. They used to be a team of "A" players... but with the amount of staff they have had to bring on board, they have probably hired a bunch of "B" and even "C" players.
The kind of mess ups lately in IOS, OSX and the App store indicate that it's time for Apple to focus on getting more "A" team talent in their software and services departments... and scaling back their dev goals to what's doable with the top-grade talent.
I suspect that Apple is increasingly becoming a victim of it's own success. They used to be a team of "A" players... but with the amount of staff they have had to bring on board, they have probably hired a bunch of "B" and even "C" players.
The kind of mess ups lately in IOS, OSX and the App store indicate that it's time for Apple to focus on getting more "A" team talent in their software and services departments... and scaling back their dev goals to what's doable with the top-grade talent.
Freedom of religion wasn't a hard concept to come up with when the US constitution was put together especially when it was quite logically following what was put in the Declaration of Independence, and yet it had to come in as an amendment to the constitution instead of being right in it from the beginning. Reality is reality, despite hindsight.
Clearly the app is popular, and in iOS6, Apple had notification center widgets that used the keyboard (tweet & Facebook update things).
Why not remove the widget's built-in keyboard and just bring up the system keyboard if the user taps on the widget? Can't be that hard.
Of course, it'll still run afoul of the rule saying extensions shouldn't try to be mini-apps.
Of course, it'll still run afoul of the rule saying extensions shouldn't try to be mini-apps.
I did say sometimes. That means occasionally. You see, people can still criticise, have valid points, and still enjoy products. Having one slight criticism doesn't mean I need to jump ship. And having one criticism doesn't mean I hate everything about iOS.
Hope this helps.
Omg thank you. Frivolous posts on MR are a catch all for anything the mod doesn't like. Half of ALL posts on any forum are frivolous.
Apple once again limiting functionality. I STILL remember having to wait forever for iOS to get cut & paste.
Given that humans involved who knows what happened when someone might not have paid attention to something. Happens in all kinds of things in life. Furthermore, their guidelines are evolving, and while something like this might not have been something they thought would get much traction and didn't call it out specifically originally, once they saw what actually started happening in reality they might have realized that certain things did need more attention and coverage in the guidelines than originally thought. Again, happens in all kinds of things in life. Not sure why everyone is so surprised about a fairly natural progression of things--it's not great of course that it works like that, it'd be amazing if everything could be spelled out to the last bit right away, but that's simply not the reality and never really has been with practically anything. Things change, that's really the only constant.
So you know well how iOS works and what it's about, and yet you are still surprised that Apple didn't just fully open the gates?
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It doesn't really do it in notification center, and it's only limited to Apple's own Messages functionality, not something open to third party apps.
That assumption is sort of unfair since no mention of keystroke tracking was mentioned as a reason for removal. The way your sentence is structured reads like an accusation. What exact reason do you understand, because that reason (keylogging) wasn't mentioned in the OP? If the OP mentioned the widget asked for all permissions then I could see making that assumption. As far as I know, it doesn't.
No technically it wasn't an accusation, but the supposition introduced nefariousness when none existed prior.
"I assume that technically a widget like this could be an iOS9 feature, and what if Apple wants the functionality to originate within iOS first, so I can understand that reasoning."
I didn't accuse Apple of anything but I did introduce a self serving idea about Apple with no basis for doing so.
Bolded: Wouldn't that be dealt with in the permissions the app asks for? A person could simply chose not to install the widget and/or the app. Neato doesn't seem to have an awful user experience. In fact the opposite seems to be true. Apple is pretty good at pruning the garden of keylogging bs. I'm pretty sure they could handle that issue if it ever came to be.
Apple does things when they feel the time is right. They operate on their own timetable and do their own thing. This is one of their strengths.
So you defend anything Apple does? Apple limits user experience unnecessarily. Has been for years.
So Apple would like them to remove the keyboard leaving a useless app in the App Store? Where's the sense in that?
According to Apple's Guidelines, developers are prohibited from creating "a mini version" of an apps in Notification Center.
Neato is a note taking app. If you put the entire functionally of this app in the Notification Center, then it diminish the point of apps. I don't see the innovation at all. Think what would happen if Facebook put everything including the newsfeed, posts, notifications, messages, etc, all in the notification center. . . We wouldn't use the actual Facebook app.
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I think they were talking about the keyboard in the notification center, not the App itself.