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I don't understand what's their problem. If users are happy with this, why would they remove it just for the sake of "simplicity" like if iOS users are children:mad:

Because Apple still operates under Steve Jobs' old mentality of knowing what the user experience should be better than the users themselves.
 
Doesn't Apple's text message quick reply pull up a keyboard in the notification center? Why can't Neato then?

It pulls up the system keyboard - this widget seems to create it's own in the notification center.

The whole "no keyboards" thing has a very real, legitimate reason - keyloggers. As has already been mentioned, if a widget doesn't use the system keyboard (as whatever keyboard the user chooses is highly sandboxed and scrutinized before being allowed) the potential for security threats exist.

Apple doesn't want that. You don't want that. It's not that much more difficult to simply open a note taking app. It's actually extremely easy.

I mean at this point, why have a full app - let's just take all the functionality out of them, cram them into a small window/home screen and call it good. None of those horrible, painful extra taps to open the app and get a far better experience.

I concur with others here - if widgets are THAT important, go Android. Period.
 
Hey everyone who says this is a security problem...

How is inputting data into a today widget any different than writing a note in any note app in the App Store?

They all write to databases, whether it be online or ones within the app.
 
Hey everyone who says this is a security problem...

How is inputting data into a today widget any different than writing a note in any note app in the App Store?

They all write to databases, whether it be online or ones within the app.

More than likely no different at all.

I do love the way that people on here justify to themselves why the removal of functionality (Or even the possibility of having said functionality) is good for them.

Only when you demand more will you get more. When you holler and whoop at every offering that Apple puts in front of you, and buy it blindly,they realise they can roll out anything and you'll buy it.
 
Because Apple still operates under Steve Jobs' old mentality of knowing what the user experience should be better than the users themselves.

And that's all well and good if it comes to basic operating system UI and functionality, but here we have the iOS-ification of OS X whereby Apple is deciding what apps we can and cannot run in a particular part of the OS. This is unlike previous Dashboard widgets and apps in general where no such restrictions apply. Developers are free to make and distribute Dashboard widgets of whatever they want and anyone can run them without Apple's approval, consent and permission.

I'm concerned about the precedent this sets for OS X. Apple has designed a new app type but is locking users in to the App Store and their approval processes. How much longer before other parts of the OS become locked down where they decide what we can and cannot do with our computers and everything has to have Apple's approval?

So is jailbreaking OS X going to become a thing now?
 
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So you defend anything Apple does? Apple limits user experience unnecessarily. Has been for years.
This doesn't have to do anything with defending really. It has to do with exactly what you are saying, that they have been doing this pretty much since the beginning of iOS--that's how it was designed to be. Not sure why people are surprised or shocked about it, or how ranting years down the line that they are still doing what they were essentially always doing and continue doing is insightful or meaningful in any way.
 
Good for Apple. If too many of these Apps are approved and available, iPhone might start to catch up to Android on functionality and we know Apple can't allow that.

I tried installing a simple Android widget on my Samsung phone once to track how much data I was using. It was a royal PITA because there were five different versions covering a thousand different models of phones, then you had to choose from 5-10 different sizes of the apps once installed on the phone.

What a colossal mess that was, and it's exactly why I no longer have an Android phone--they all feel like you could launch the Space Shuttle with them, but you wouldn't enjoy the process one bit while doing so.

They're already overdoing the Notification Center options a bit, if you ask me.
 
Because Apple still operates under Steve Jobs' old mentality of knowing what the user experience should be better than the users themselves.

While I don't like Apple's attitude of telling me what my opinion is, I understand their stance in this case. A widget is supposed to be small, not a full blown app. It's like someone who parks a Hummer in a parking spot designated for compact cars.

Just make the app an app and not a widget. Done and done.
 
While I don't like Apple's attitude of telling me what my opinion is, I understand their stance in this case. A widget is supposed to be small, not a full blown app. It's like someone who parks a Hummer in a parking spot designated for compact cars.

Just make the app an app and not a widget. Done and done.

A widget is supposed to be small according to Apple's vision, but Apple's vision could very well be wrong. Users seem to disagree with Apple since this widget is very popular: it offers something Apple might not have envisioned initially but that users want.

Maybe Apple's vision needs to be revised taking users' feedback into account and guidelines needs to be rewritten, just like they revised their stance about iOS not offering native apps and many other things in the past.
 
Useful!

I see nobody is using the app. I tell you, neat combined with Evernote is awesome!

Pulling out the phone, waking it, pull down, enter one or two words to get them off your mind, and upload.

Done. 'Just open the real app' is no comparison!

GTD suddenly makes sense!
 
I don't understand what's their problem. If users are happy with this, why would they remove it just for the sake of "simplicity" like if iOS users are children:mad:

Just do as you're told...
Apple knows what's best for you.

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For those who hadn't tried this app, it was pretty useless anyways. The keyboard was impossible to type on because it completely lacked any auto-correct. In no way was muddling around making typos with this app quicker than opening another quick note taking app like Drafts.
 
Can it not have a generic apple keyboard pop out when tapped on, I agree with apple if it's always there.

It doesn't seem very efficient to have something like this when an app would be quicker?
 
No, their slow adoption of simple features is well-documented. Denying that is just being difficult. I love Apple, but we all know it.

Apple does things when they feel the time is right. They operate on their own timetable and do their own thing. This is one of their strengths.
 
As long as someone can't send text somewhere (SMS, Email, any app) without going through the passcode/TouchID, why would this be a problem?
 
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