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iPod touch Apple Cripples iPod Touch Calendar
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So I'm thinking that Apple will somehow make up for this because look at what happened when the iPhone dropped in price. iPhone users complained that they spent $200 extra (which I honestly believe is a crap complaint because, after all, technology drops in price very quickly) and they got $100 in Apple credit.
With the iPod touch, people that ordered one have a legitimate complaint because Apple was advertising something different from what the customers are actually going to receive.
As for me, I'm no longer going to get a touch and will instead spend LESS money and get a classic with much more HDD space and more features that I will actually use (such as games, and lyrics).
With the iPod touch, people that ordered one have a legitimate complaint because Apple was advertising something different from what the customers are actually going to receive.
As for me, I'm no longer going to get a touch and will instead spend LESS money and get a classic with much more HDD space and more features that I will actually use (such as games, and lyrics).
If true, and a permanent loss, then I am very disappointed.
I would ask that everyone leave feedback for Apple about this issue and asking for clarrification about what Apple intend for the future for this device.
I would ask that everyone leave feedback for Apple about this issue and asking for clarrification about what Apple intend for the future for this device.
I would buy the Touch iPod, hands down. You're making the logic mistake of assuming everyone has the same usage habits and requirements as you do, which is clearly not the case. There's a list of reasons I'm sure we could collectively come up with why I'd want a phoneless iPhone, but here's the one's I can think of off the top of my head in 30 seconds or less:
I don't want AT&T as a carrier. I LIKE my current phone (it's a ruggedized bar phone with no moving parts, excellent battery life - I recharge once every 10-14 days, it gets great reception, it has good audio quality). I don't want long phone conversations to drain my iPod/entertainment battery. I don't want watching LOTR extended edition to mean I miss an important call. I don't think paying $100 more for a phone in my iPod is a good value (my aforementioned phone that I like very much thank you was $50 with contract).
I would LOVE a Touch with 16-32gb (32gb would be nice, 16gb would be adequate) of memory, wifi w/ full broswer, full PDA features, and "normal" iPod features (music, video, photos, etc). I'm entirely uninterested in an iPhone, though. Just because YOU think something doesn't make it the case for everyone.
I'm going to ignore you comments about the Touch and focus on this statement. You think people who charge or even password protect their wifi are bastards that should DIE?
Ok, first off, you are aware that it costs money to have an internet connection at a facility, right? And that buying and maintaining a wireless AP costs money, too, right? If someone wants to charge other people money to use something that costs them money you think they are bastards? WTF kind of logic is that?
I'll agree that when places open up their wireless access for free it's NICE, and may be a good business move for them since it makes people more likely to visit their store, but it's THEY'RE decision and they're justified either way they go on it.
As for people who "even password protect" their wireless... well, I don't want people using my bandwidth, for one. I pay for it and I often use it to download large files, etc and I'm not keen on waiting longer to complete that download so that some freeloader can use MY connection. Not to mention the legal liability that you're open to if someone uses your AP to do something illegal and you didn't make any effort to secure that connection. It may or may not hold up in court, but who wants to go through the hassle?
I'm disappointed by the lack of apps on the iPod touch (or crippled in the case of the calendar).
I am totally getting an iPhone and taking the AT&T Go Plan route. I probably won't ever need to use it as a phone, but the iPhone and its apps is going to replace my Palm TX.
I am totally getting an iPhone and taking the AT&T Go Plan route. I probably won't ever need to use it as a phone, but the iPhone and its apps is going to replace my Palm TX.
I would also like to be able to add and edit calendar events on the iPod touch, but I think we are all forgeting that this is an iPod. Its a media player! Its certainly the best of its kind and a revolutionary device! I am still getting one.
Having said that, I have to admit that I can't stop thinking that the underlying OS has a lot of potential that needs to be explored by a proper PDA! Even if the touch had calendar editing capabilities, it wouldn't be a PDA. It lacks features like Notes, Reminders, and 3rd Party applications support that would comprise a PDA...
Apple should give us exactly that with iPhone 2:
Having said that, I have to admit that I can't stop thinking that the underlying OS has a lot of potential that needs to be explored by a proper PDA! Even if the touch had calendar editing capabilities, it wouldn't be a PDA. It lacks features like Notes, Reminders, and 3rd Party applications support that would comprise a PDA...
Apple should give us exactly that with iPhone 2:
- A Phone
- a PDA with Calendar, Tasks, Notes, Reminders
- GPS
- 3G Network support
- proper Bluetooth
I somehow get a feeling that if there is no proper calander function then someone external to Apple will fix that 
Having said that, I hope Apple does change this!
Having said that, I hope Apple does change this!That sounds a little bit like saying "serves those of us right who ordered an iPod touch instead of an iPhone". Well I don't personally expect features to disappear from something I have ordered but yet to receive. based on what they saw advertised.
I don't care about market segmentation and all that, that is simply not a justification for pulling a feature of a product once it is released to market, there may be a legal get out, but it is not good business. A particular point is that there is enough of a difference in the UK for example just based on price and factoring in of what is likely to be an expensive and long term contract to say hold on there.
Perhaps this will go down well in the States among aggrieved early iPHone adopters reeling from the latest (admittedly very large) price reduction. They may be thankful of some distinction however artificial is created to justify the heavy price of being an early adopter. Here in the UK and Europe it will be a different story altogether price wise when taken all in the round.
I can think of a number of technical reasons not to have your phone and music player be the same device, battery life being a very obvious and overlooked answer.
I cannot say that the calender will stop my order for an iPod Touch, but it is not nice having features knocked from underneath you even before you are in possession of the blighted thing.
At the very least Apple could do is give Ipod Touch users some choice in the matter by allowing those for whom this is a big issue the choice of paying some kind of nominal fee to add back in what should have rightfully been included in the first place given the sales blurb.
Why would anyone buy one of these with all of the features disabled (notes, calendars, email). At this point, you might as well buy an iPhone and not use the phone features. I have a feeling Apple is going to discontinue this one really soon because everybody is going to buy the iPhone, even without a phone contract, just for the extra features.
I don't think you can even do that... I think the iPhone is fairly useless until you activate it by buyign a contract of some sort.
People who say "It's an iPod not a PDA".
The simple fact is that Apple said it would run the same apps, put it up for sale, and then changed it. It is also just frustrating that it's the same binaries as the iPhone. Why change soemething? We already don't have mail. Yes, no other ipod has had this ability to add events. No other ipod has ever had a QWERTY keyboard either. It's just pointless. The app is there, useable and viewable, but with this QWERTY keyboard, you can't edit it at all. That doesn't make sense to me.
The simple fact is that Apple said it would run the same apps, put it up for sale, and then changed it. It is also just frustrating that it's the same binaries as the iPhone. Why change soemething? We already don't have mail. Yes, no other ipod has had this ability to add events. No other ipod has ever had a QWERTY keyboard either. It's just pointless. The app is there, useable and viewable, but with this QWERTY keyboard, you can't edit it at all. That doesn't make sense to me.
Have you realized that at this moment, iPod Touch have less features than Classic? (yes, Touch has Wifi, but no display lyrics, no games, no notes app, no global search
I can get over the search because at least you can still get to artists or songs very quickly, but you know, I never realized that about the lyrics and it makes it even more sad. Couldn't you double tap the album or something, or have a button that takes you to other options like ratings and lyrics?
There are plenty of web apps that have a calendar functionality, and yes, even calendars that automatically sync with your home computer over the net.
But hopefully Apple will fix it. It is kind of ridiculous to remove a functionality for no good reason.
But hopefully Apple will fix it. It is kind of ridiculous to remove a functionality for no good reason.
one big difference is that iPod Touch is not 24/7 online as iPhone does, so web app is a unworthy idea, (not to mention the inherit limitation of its functionality)
Apple's really starting to grind my gears. You know, its one thing when a "lower tier" device simply doesn't have the speed/hardware for a feature, but when it's purposefully disabled for no other reason than to try and irritate users into upgrading it really makes me mad. Whatever, my 4G iPod is still working.
I know alot of you could care less about the calendar. However (not that Apple cares) but they lost a sale from me. I have an iPhone so i am all set. However my wife has an old iPod mini. She asked me the other day if they still make Palm pilots because she wants some type of organizer with her all the time. I told her the new iPod Touch has calendaring and contacts like my iPhone. She would love the upgrade. My wife doesn't want an iPhone though because she uses her picture messaging on her current cell phone too much to give it up so the iPod Touch would have been perfect. Now it's a mute point. They pulled the feature so I pulled my desire to purchase one for my wife.
My guess is Apple has negotiated their contract with AT&T such that they can do whatever the heck they want.
Well, the iPhone is still not available in Germany...I hope to have it by the end of the year but still I don't think that Apple will make it a full blown PDA in its current incarnation. I do believe that Apple will eventually add more features, but they will do it in their own, unique way (keep it simple!)
Well it's possible we, in Europe, might get a 3G device. I doubt it though, it might be 16GB however.
As for the apps, I'm serious. It hinges on Leopard. They were all meant to be there at launch but the ship date for Leopard slipped and slightly tarnished Apple's plan.
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Maybe it's an internet issue here at work, but all the videos on the iPod Touch page play except for the Multi Touch section. Is this where they excluded the Calendar stuff? I just wonder why that is the only one that isn't working.
I haven't cancelled my order, yet. I want to see what/if Apple has anything to respond with to his customers.
For all those that say that this is just an iPod are wrong. If it was, they wouldn't have made the classic nor would they have included Wi-Fi or Safari at all. Everthing these days is an All-in-One. I decided agained the iPhone because i knock my phone around alot and see myself losing an iPhone at a club after a few drinks.
Maybe it's an internet issue here at work, but all the videos on the iPod Touch page play except for the Multi Touch section. Is this where they excluded the Calendar stuff? I just wonder why that is the only one that isn't working.
I haven't cancelled my order, yet. I want to see what/if Apple has anything to respond with to his customers.
For all those that say that this is just an iPod are wrong. If it was, they wouldn't have made the classic nor would they have included Wi-Fi or Safari at all. Everthing these days is an All-in-One. I decided agained the iPhone because i knock my phone around alot and see myself losing an iPhone at a club after a few drinks.
Then what's the point of portable.
So what are you saying. If I am at work, and I need to enter an appointment, I should write it down on paper, or memorize it until I arrive home, then enter it into ical on my computer, then do a sync. What is the point of putting a program on a portable device and then removing the portability. Give me a break. Apple makes great products which is why I switched from a PC to a MBP. But steve, your loyal customers have helped get you where you are today so stop being a f****** d**k. No offense intended. I'm also thinking about canceling my Touch order.@
So what are you saying. If I am at work, and I need to enter an appointment, I should write it down on paper, or memorize it until I arrive home, then enter it into ical on my computer, then do a sync. What is the point of putting a program on a portable device and then removing the portability. Give me a break. Apple makes great products which is why I switched from a PC to a MBP. But steve, your loyal customers have helped get you where you are today so stop being a f****** d**k. No offense intended. I'm also thinking about canceling my Touch order.
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