The feature would have been really nice but... I guess I can live without it. I hate when companies cripple their products 
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iPod touch Apple Cripples iPod Touch Calendar
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There isn't an unlimited right for Apple to change the details of their products. Granted, they have the legal right to change it before anyone has been charged for it, but the market isn't so forgiving. If people see that Apple keeps changing the specs or abilities of its hardware, people will stop buying products early on. They will wait until they know the full details of the product, and then buy. This will hurt the potential of other products Apple might want to release, because consumers will have less faith in that product delivering what Jobs promised. It's better in Apple's and consumers' interest if Apple keeps to its word.
"I'm canceling my order 'case Apple took away my calendar. Wahhhhh!!"
You know. I find this post just plain rude. Get a life.
Seriously, how can ANYONE defend Apple here? Seriously? It TRULY goes to show some people will just defend and kiss up to Apple in ANY WAY they can for WHATEVER reason! Sit down and think about it for a second (those of you who are defending Apple). Seriously think about this. Honestly, is removing the ability to add events on the iPod Touch a GOOD thing? Seriously? It doesn't matter if it's "just an iPod." It goes against consistency. It goes against "ease of use."
People EXPECT the iPod Touch to have the ability to ADD events. There's a touchscreen keyboard on there!
Again, think LONG and hard before you defend Apple BLINDLY. It's simply WRONG.
w00master
I don't think he was defending Apple by posting that picture. Just implying that a lot of cry babies here. Very valid point.
Cry babies that can't wait a couple of extra weeks after shipments, when all applications they want and more will be available to install on iPod Touch. Just like you can install applications on the iPhone.
Sorry, but I completely disagree. Calling posters on here crybabies, you are in effect defending Apple.
People are disappointed in Apple. For most on here, Apple is their "favorite company." Apple who often does things that are great for consumers. Apple who brought "ease of use" and "user friendliness" to the masses.
The very simple act of removing the ability to add events, slaps many consumers in the face. Sure, Apple could add this later in (as well as other apps), but why did they remove in the first place? What's the point? What benefit could be brought? Sorry, but I absolutely see NONE.
w00master
Exactly 3rd party apps will be great. Does anybody actually believe that iPhone applications wont make it to Ipod Touch?
I want slingbox application the most. That will just be awesome, watching TV on the go.
i was thinking about getting the touch while i'm still under my verizon contract...but having two crippled hardware - my verizon phone and the touch - would be too much for me. neither would have proper bluetooth functionality...neither can do calendars very well...etc. i'll just wait a few months until my verizon contract ends and get the 16GB iphone w/3G
That's not the topic or issue of this thread.
Which is Apple crippling specs after falsely advertising and taking orders.
And their motivation for doing it.
So to tie your insult into the actual topic, you're saying it's fine for Apple to do what they did because the iTouch will be hacked eventually by third parties? If so, your idea of Apple and their products differs wildly to mine. I see the notion of wait for it to be hacked in order to get it to work properly is PC, not Apple. Apple products should work properly straight out of the box, not need hacks to enable them - as in "it needs to be what to get it to work?!? WTF?? Are we talking about Apple here?"
When they release the SDK, that'll be a completely different story, and I can wait for and look forward to lots of new apps. It's why I'm buying the iTouch, the potential is great. I expect even more apps in future from Apple themselves too.
But buggered if I have to use a hack on my iTouch to get even iCal to work properly. Or get the standard Apple Mail or Notes on it. The very idea of it disappoints me no end.
wow, amazing
P-Worm, hotwire I must commend your stubbornness to remember that apple is company in this to make money and not you personal make your own ipod buffet line.
They make a product and you whine like little twelve year old girls about it. It funny.
I remember last week before the keynote everyone is like, this better have wifi, 160GB HDD, Touch, Video, WirelessIMS. And guess what it had most of those desired features and yes it does only have a 16GB flash drive but I think its funny that even with only 10% of the desired storage you both ordered this.
But you take away the ability to write in the calender (which may not have been a feature in the first place, someone at Apple may have made a mistake, like person at Circuit City listing 8GB Touch for 199 on Thursday) and suddenly its not worth it anymore.
So I ask what were you paying the 399 for, the ipod/wifi/video/wirelessTMS or the edititable contacts list?
It seems as though you are wanting to spend 399 on an editable calender list, so I have a deal for you.
You send me 399.99 plus 6%sales tax and I will send you 1 five hundred sheet spril bound notebook for you to write down the events in and as a bonus 100 No 2 pencils!!!! And I will even include free shipping!!!! Great deal right!!!! Shoot me and email and let me know where you want me to send your new iSpiril Notebook and iNo. 2 Pencil.
EDIT: BTW I ordered a 16GB Touch without knowing that I could or couldnt edit calender items and guess what!!! Since I paid 399 for an ipod and not a fancy calender, I am going to let my order be delivered. Then when the calender function is made to work like you want, either by hackers or to many people crying and complaining about it to Steve (like they did with the iphone) I am going to make fun of you hard cre becuase then you wont be able to order one forever!!! HAHA!!!
P-Worm, hotwire I must commend your stubbornness to remember that apple is company in this to make money and not you personal make your own ipod buffet line.
They make a product and you whine like little twelve year old girls about it. It funny.
I remember last week before the keynote everyone is like, this better have wifi, 160GB HDD, Touch, Video, WirelessIMS. And guess what it had most of those desired features and yes it does only have a 16GB flash drive but I think its funny that even with only 10% of the desired storage you both ordered this.
But you take away the ability to write in the calender (which may not have been a feature in the first place, someone at Apple may have made a mistake, like person at Circuit City listing 8GB Touch for 199 on Thursday) and suddenly its not worth it anymore.
So I ask what were you paying the 399 for, the ipod/wifi/video/wirelessTMS or the edititable contacts list?
It seems as though you are wanting to spend 399 on an editable calender list, so I have a deal for you.
You send me 399.99 plus 6%sales tax and I will send you 1 five hundred sheet spril bound notebook for you to write down the events in and as a bonus 100 No 2 pencils!!!! And I will even include free shipping!!!! Great deal right!!!! Shoot me and email and let me know where you want me to send your new iSpiril Notebook and iNo. 2 Pencil.
EDIT: BTW I ordered a 16GB Touch without knowing that I could or couldnt edit calender items and guess what!!! Since I paid 399 for an ipod and not a fancy calender, I am going to let my order be delivered. Then when the calender function is made to work like you want, either by hackers or to many people crying and complaining about it to Steve (like they did with the iphone) I am going to make fun of you hard cre becuase then you wont be able to order one forever!!! HAHA!!!
Wow - ever taken a course in Logic? ... i seriously doubt it.
Calling out whinny childlike behavior = defending Apple?
Hmmmm .... hey, I call it like I see it.
Why would Apple advertise functionality, and then remove it, only, as you say, they will re-introduce this later?
In the intro for iPod Touch - he said the Touch was like a iPhone but without the telephone part: he didn't say, "Like an iPhone but very much crippled - because we'll take all the applications away for you!".
Apple have been misleading twice.
Apple have had enough time to get the promotional material QA'ed and out there... and it took them several days to remove the editable calendars.. Why? Probably a 'last minute' revision... A lot of people are buying the Touch because they thought it would be a telephone-less iPhone will all the other functionality.. and they are right to be disappointed when Apple revise the functionality at a later date.
I still remember people complaining that the iPod mini not having a color screen.
People will always find something to complain about.
All my calendar events are entered on the computer beforehand anyways, and when I plug it in, iCal syncs it with my current 5.5G iPod.
People will always find something to complain about.
All my calendar events are entered on the computer beforehand anyways, and when I plug it in, iCal syncs it with my current 5.5G iPod.
It's amazing that people will defend Apple to the dying end. For whatever reason. Sad.
This is the sort of stuff that Sony, Microsoft, etc. have been notorious in doing. Now, Apple is doing it, and the you have the Apple worshipers defending silly and illogical reasons.
Heck, even Mr. Gruber himself finds it "lame": http://tinyurl.com/38hvsn
Guess what, it is lame.
w00master
This is the sort of stuff that Sony, Microsoft, etc. have been notorious in doing. Now, Apple is doing it, and the you have the Apple worshipers defending silly and illogical reasons.
Heck, even Mr. Gruber himself finds it "lame": http://tinyurl.com/38hvsn
Guess what, it is lame.
w00master
I bet most of these people didn't even look at the specs before ordering. They hopped on the site as soon as it was available and ordered. But now its "Oh. Apple took away the one feature I bought their product for, now I am going to cancel my order!" Yeah ok. I am sure
I haven't been able to load up the keynote yet, but did he say that you could enter events at the keynote? Something other than this one graphic that mentioned it? Sounds like they made a mistake and recycled a graphic and caught. Now the blog-scene is all over it and the whiners come out of the caves to do what they do.
Oh well. Cancel your orders. Everyone else will get theirs quicker. And I will be doing my duty with an iPhone soon.
I am sureI haven't been able to load up the keynote yet, but did he say that you could enter events at the keynote? Something other than this one graphic that mentioned it? Sounds like they made a mistake and recycled a graphic and caught. Now the blog-scene is all over it and the whiners come out of the caves to do what they do.
Oh well. Cancel your orders. Everyone else will get theirs quicker. And I will be doing my duty with an iPhone soon.
Most of the whiners tend to be newbies in fact... Take a look at that iPhone price drop thread.
I have gotten so tired of newbies, so for the first time ever, I now have a signature that includes my thoughts on what should be done with newbies.
Just like an Elitist Mac user.
What makes YOU think YOU are better than a regular macrumors newbie? Do you think for some reason that newbies are recent switches who have no knowledge of the Apple landscape?
Typical....
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People probably sign up and vent their frustrations, you'll get plenty of such sign ups on the Apple forums, for example.
I bet most of these people didn't even look at the specs before ordering. They hopped on the site as soon as it was available and ordered. But now its "Oh. Apple took away the one feature I bought their product for, now I am going to cancel my order!" Yeah ok.
I researched the various websites for several hours, looking at all the specs, and that was actually one of the things that convinced me to order it.
Steve said it "runs the same apps as the iPhone". Whether or not that implies editing calendar entries the same as on an iPhone or not, I don't know.
I'm not cancelling my order (mainly because I have faith that the issue of all these missing features will be resolved, if not by Apple than by unofficial hacks), but I do think its pretty weak to artificially cripple the product to steer people towards the iPhone. It's one thing not to include features that'd require additional hardware (bluetooth, camera, microphone for Skype), but its another to just cripple or remove applications.
Personally, I hope more people cancel, then maybe I'll get mine that much sooner
I think sblasl forgets that he too was once a newbie here.
I imagine there's hundreds of new users signing up for the forums here daily - it's unfair to group them all together, just because some people may be joining the forums to complain about the iPod touch.
Of course, this is the same user who tried to claim one couldn't be a "loyal customer" if they owned a PC.
This is a pretty stupid argument. I was in the market for a PDA - one with a virtual keyboard instead of a stylus. The PDA that I'm after doesn't have to have a lot of bells and whistles, but something to replace having to use a piece of paper to jot down dates and contacts (your comment about solving my problem with a spiral bound notebook is equally irritating. As many people that use a PDA can tell you, an electronic data assistant can help immensely because it allows you to sync different parts of you life up easily and effectively). After the iPhone was released, I - like many others I'm sure - thought that this would make a great iPod. To have a music player that can double up as a device to help me be more organized is something I have been waiting for from Apple for a long time.
The iPod line has been able to store contacts and calendars for quite some time now. We have never been able to update the information on the go, but that was because it doesn't really make sense to type things out with a click wheel. What really irks me about the iPod Touch is that the technology is already there and the software is already written. In fact, Apple had to go out of their way to remove this.
Now the biggest question is why the iPod Touch exists at all if it is not supposed to be a PDA. It doesn't have enough storage to be a movie player (although it has the perfect screen for it). Heck, for a lot of people, including myself, it doesn't have enough space to hold a whole music library. I was willing to look past all of that because I convinced myself that this was the simple PDA I was looking for and I get a great iPod along with it. You would think that the most expensive iPod would be the one with the most features, but even the iPod Touch is left out in the cold there because it's the only iPod without Notes.
Something inside tells me that the only reason the iPod Touch exists is to encourage iPhone sales. It's an excuse to say, "For only $100 more you can have all this."
Where's the innovation in that? Where's the Thinking Different? I've been an Apple fan my whole life and I rarely find too much to complain about. But this news saddens me for a company that I love. I'm upset because I expect better of Apple.
P-Worm
I've been guessing it was actually the other way around. Switchers or non-Mac iPod owners dismissing it as acceptable by having much lower historical expectations and saying 'get over it'.
Not this one. I want to use it as a Newton/PDA, so I specifically checked for myself first. There were in fact a few threads asking 'can I input iCal events? which I was going to answer with my newfound info, but others had already replied 'yes, it says so on Apple's website'. So other people wanted to be sure as well before buying.
But I'm buying it anyway. I'll just use a pen and piece of paper to jot down appointments while showing off my cool new iTouch to other envious potential Apple customers and simply ignore their silly "but why are you using a pen and paper, didn't you just show me it has iCal and touchscreen keyboard on it?" questions.
His logic doesn't follow, but yours doesn't either. It is possible to be critical of a company and not be a "crybaby." Sure people still have the option of cancelling their orders, but that doesn't make it ok. If Apple was unsure or had doubts about the implementation of any features, those features should not have been advertised. It isn't too hard to do that is it?
Like I wrote above, there isn't anything overtly "wrong" about this move from a legal perspective, but from a market perspective, it could become dangerous. When too many things change, consumers become weary and don't want to buy; they like stability and predictability.