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iPod touch Apple Cripples iPod Touch Calendar
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ugh
I am so upset with all this. I've been pretty supportive of Apple all this time but this is horrible. I'm going to cancel my order for the Touch and buy NOTHING. Apple has made a mess. Advertising the calendar, then taking it away. I only was willing to pay $400 for a 16G iPod because of the other features on it. To me, it's just not worth it otherwise. I'm really bummed. We are just asking for such simple things. It's not like i'm asking to run Photoshop on it? Just simple little things.
Maybe it's time to look at other devices from other companies.
I am so upset with all this. I've been pretty supportive of Apple all this time but this is horrible. I'm going to cancel my order for the Touch and buy NOTHING. Apple has made a mess. Advertising the calendar, then taking it away. I only was willing to pay $400 for a 16G iPod because of the other features on it. To me, it's just not worth it otherwise. I'm really bummed. We are just asking for such simple things. It's not like i'm asking to run Photoshop on it? Just simple little things.
Maybe it's time to look at other devices from other companies.
This supports my point from a previous post. Safari's not disabled, so why disable iCal and drive Apple iTouch customers to use Google's calendar via Safari instead? It's serves Apple no purpose whatsoever that I can see. I just don't get it.
Ditto email and all other apps.
PS. Good tip, btw.
That was probably just a marketing mix-up, if there anything like our guys there easily confused
It's still there in plain text on the Canada site, it's not like it slipped out of someone's mouth or anything...
http://www.apple.com/ca/ipodtouch/features.html?feature=multitouch
Yeah, CLEVER! At 10% re-stocking fee per unit, that's real smart stuff! Good luck getting Apple to waive it.
Yep you are right. I was going to buy the touch to use as a ipod/PDA as all i need are contacts/calendar at this time. Really no need to not have it for an osx based devise. All those who say "the ipod never had this before blah blah" all I have to say is there has never been an ipod based on an OS like this before.
Crap. It's 11:24 am and it's gone from the Canada site now, too.
For those of us in Canada who were waiting for the closest thing we can get to an iPhone, this truly sucks.
For those of us in Canada who were waiting for the closest thing we can get to an iPhone, this truly sucks.
11 minutes. Now I know they're reading these forums. You alerted them to the one they missed!
However, on the Canadian Future Shop page, where I'm pre-ordering it from, it still has the original specs, so here's hoping I can still complain.
Future Shop link
Future Shop link
heh, apple has a serious problem on their hands. They release the iPhone, an amazing product with gorgeous features and UI, limited by two major factors: 1) Lack of 3G support, 2) Lack of space.
People start wondering, if the iPhone is the best iPod ever, why isn't there a stand alone iPod with the same touch technology, but with more space (due to lack of phone hardware)? So, they come up with the iPod Touch.
It's a nice product. The only problem is, we know what it's capable of. It should have everything the iPhone has (it is the exact same software!), except the phone features. They pretty much do that at the revealing, giving us calendar support, notes, internet browsing...etc.
Then the problem arises...this thing is the same damn product as the iPhone. It even looks exactly the same. Why the hell would anyone buy both of them? Can you imagine opening your bag and seeing an iPhone and an iPod touch? It would be ridiculous. You can't even tell them apart. What they essentially did was create a product that is directly competing with their own product. They realized this, and had to strip back the features of the iPod Touch. Of course, by this mix up, people are now aware what the Touch is capable of, and it's not only inviting hackers, but also portraying Apple as being too short sighted, something they usually are not.
Once Flash memory becomes cheaper, there won't be a need for an iPod touch. People that buy the touch are buying a product that is filling a niche for the time being before iPhone can expand. If you could buy a 100gig iPhone, or a 100gig iPod Touch...which would you buy? They do the EXACT same thing (in theory) other than make phone calls. Because of this MAJOR problem, Apple has to strip down the Touch, even though it's capable of more. I think its a major problem for Apple.
They should have the normal iPod line, and then the iPhone, nothing more. Don't make people activate the phone service if they don't want to. If they want a "touch" then buy an iPhone/PDA/whatever you use it for. If you want a normal iPod, buy the classic or lower models.
The Touch in theory is a cool product, but its going to cause way to many problems than its going to solve. To put it bluntly, Apple has really screwed up here. Unless it knows it is just buying time until they can discontinue the Touch, and have the iPhone be free from ATT activation requirements ans serve the purpose as both a Touch and an iPhone.
People start wondering, if the iPhone is the best iPod ever, why isn't there a stand alone iPod with the same touch technology, but with more space (due to lack of phone hardware)? So, they come up with the iPod Touch.
It's a nice product. The only problem is, we know what it's capable of. It should have everything the iPhone has (it is the exact same software!), except the phone features. They pretty much do that at the revealing, giving us calendar support, notes, internet browsing...etc.
Then the problem arises...this thing is the same damn product as the iPhone. It even looks exactly the same. Why the hell would anyone buy both of them? Can you imagine opening your bag and seeing an iPhone and an iPod touch? It would be ridiculous. You can't even tell them apart. What they essentially did was create a product that is directly competing with their own product. They realized this, and had to strip back the features of the iPod Touch. Of course, by this mix up, people are now aware what the Touch is capable of, and it's not only inviting hackers, but also portraying Apple as being too short sighted, something they usually are not.
Once Flash memory becomes cheaper, there won't be a need for an iPod touch. People that buy the touch are buying a product that is filling a niche for the time being before iPhone can expand. If you could buy a 100gig iPhone, or a 100gig iPod Touch...which would you buy? They do the EXACT same thing (in theory) other than make phone calls. Because of this MAJOR problem, Apple has to strip down the Touch, even though it's capable of more. I think its a major problem for Apple.
They should have the normal iPod line, and then the iPhone, nothing more. Don't make people activate the phone service if they don't want to. If they want a "touch" then buy an iPhone/PDA/whatever you use it for. If you want a normal iPod, buy the classic or lower models.
The Touch in theory is a cool product, but its going to cause way to many problems than its going to solve. To put it bluntly, Apple has really screwed up here. Unless it knows it is just buying time until they can discontinue the Touch, and have the iPhone be free from ATT activation requirements ans serve the purpose as both a Touch and an iPhone.
I don't see them competing at all. Many people like myself already have a phone, so won't buy an iPhone (contracts etc), but would still like to have the rest of the features. But when the time comes in the future to upgrade the old phone, I'd upgrade both the iPod touch and phone into the one unit iPhone.
So I see it as a feeder product. Start off with an iTouch and your current phone, then upgrade to a single iPhone later.
Very much like the Mac Mini is a feeder product for PC switchers who want to keep using their current screens and keyboards, but then when it comes to upgrade, there's the iMac.
I'm surprized you people aren't crying that theres no weather app, it's an iPod, not and iPod + Phone + Communications Device
Safari is only on there because of the bastards that actually charge for wifi and make terrible html wifi logon pages.
People that charge for wifi, or even password protect it, need to drown slowly, although you future touch owners should thank them.
Safari is only on there because of the bastards that actually charge for wifi and make terrible html wifi logon pages.
People that charge for wifi, or even password protect it, need to drown slowly, although you future touch owners should thank them.
Here is the information from Apple Store Finland. Of course Apple are also "breaking/bending" the law claiming they only offer a 1 year guarantee when EU consumer regulations call for at least two years... EU Distance Selling regulations also are another thing..
How can I return an item?
Returns can be arranged via our online Self Service website.
Please visit our Step-by-Step Guide to learn how to return an item online.
If you change your mind, you can return your Standard or Configured-to-Order hardware to us within 14 calendar days of delivery. Software returns are also accepted within this period, but only if the software package is unopened.
If you do wish to return your order, or just certain items from it, please use our online Self Service website or contact us. Be sure to to provide the following details:
Your Web Order Number.
The full address from where we can collect the goods.
A contact phone number
A preferred time for our carriers to call
On receipt of your e-mail, we will provide you with a Return Material Authorisation (RMA) number. Indicating this number clearly on the packaging of the goods you are returning will help ensure that your returns are processed quickly. Customers returning unwanted goods during this 14-day remorse period will incur a charge for collection and processing.
Please visit Section 7 of our terms and condition for comprehensive information about what items can be returned, return charges if applicable.
How can I return an item?
Returns can be arranged via our online Self Service website.
Please visit our Step-by-Step Guide to learn how to return an item online.
If you change your mind, you can return your Standard or Configured-to-Order hardware to us within 14 calendar days of delivery. Software returns are also accepted within this period, but only if the software package is unopened.
If you do wish to return your order, or just certain items from it, please use our online Self Service website or contact us. Be sure to to provide the following details:
Your Web Order Number.
The full address from where we can collect the goods.
A contact phone number
A preferred time for our carriers to call
On receipt of your e-mail, we will provide you with a Return Material Authorisation (RMA) number. Indicating this number clearly on the packaging of the goods you are returning will help ensure that your returns are processed quickly. Customers returning unwanted goods during this 14-day remorse period will incur a charge for collection and processing.
Please visit Section 7 of our terms and condition for comprehensive information about what items can be returned, return charges if applicable.
The only thing that will really annoy me...
The only think that will really annoy me is if Apple goes out of their way to prevent people from copying over the apps from the iPhone. Because all indications (including that Gizodo post) are that the iPhone and Touch run the same exact OS, and even use many of the same binaries.
They haven't gone out of their way to prevent the iPhone from being hacked, or to prevent people from copying music from iPods. So I don't see this being any different.
No matter. All these limitations will be hacked in no time...I am going to wait before ordering, but I fully expect to see Notes, Mail, and fully-functional Calendar/Contacts on the Touch soon after it is released.
The only think that will really annoy me is if Apple goes out of their way to prevent people from copying over the apps from the iPhone. Because all indications (including that Gizodo post) are that the iPhone and Touch run the same exact OS, and even use many of the same binaries.
They haven't gone out of their way to prevent the iPhone from being hacked, or to prevent people from copying music from iPods. So I don't see this being any different.
No matter. All these limitations will be hacked in no time...I am going to wait before ordering, but I fully expect to see Notes, Mail, and fully-functional Calendar/Contacts on the Touch soon after it is released.
I think it is horse sh*t. I think they heard/read/saw people making moves to purchase the touch and not get a phone.
I am one of them.
The iphone is still not nearly 100% reliable.
My emails never get to me with any regularity, and the ATT coverage in Cleveland doesn't even come close to Verizon.
I have been through too many iphones with no luck, and thought the touch would be a great ipod and ipda.....I guess it is not.
I called Apple, and they neither agreed or disagreed with the above statements.
Horse bleep.
I am one of them.
The iphone is still not nearly 100% reliable.
My emails never get to me with any regularity, and the ATT coverage in Cleveland doesn't even come close to Verizon.
I have been through too many iphones with no luck, and thought the touch would be a great ipod and ipda.....I guess it is not.
I called Apple, and they neither agreed or disagreed with the above statements.
Horse bleep.
I'm surprized you people aren't crying that theres no weather app, it's an iPod, not and iPod + Phone + Communications Device
Us people aren't crying about the weather app because it was never advertised to have such a thing.
greedy business, always, they didn't do nothing about iPhone hack because those hacks can boost iPhone sale, which they need, now they want to keep the iPhone alive, so they try to prevent iPod Touch from having too much attraction.
But thats the point.. it isn't *just* an iPod. Or, at least, it shouldn't be. IF its just an iPod, why the virtual keyboard, Safari, the multi-touch screen? If its an iPod it should have a minimal interface... The point is, its more than just a basic iPod...
Its got mobile OSX built in... it isn't just an iPod.
Apple - once again - loses the plot at the last minute.
I am struggling with the fact that a large majority of the people who are saying that the iPod Touch is not a PDA and that it is just an iPod are also the same people who were saying that the iPod touch would not have nearly the capabilities of the iPhone. I am not sure how many of you all watched the actual keynote, but when Steve announced the iPod Touch he referred to it as the "phone-less iPhone".
Like it or not what Apple did was not right, legally they may be able to get away with it but all at the risk of losing tons of potential customers. They led a large majority of people to believe that this was going to be a phone-less iPhone and they have slowly taken away certain features. It isn't a matter of if they work or not because the iPod Touch platform and the iPhone platform are the same.
I wrote an email to the folks over at apple expressing to them how I felt about this change, and anyone else who is unhappy should do so also. All the people who bought the iPhone were able to cry because the chose to be early adopters we should be able to get the full potential from our iPod Touch.
The final thing I have to say is that the people who are comparing the iPod Touch to the Nano or Classic and saying that it isn't a PDA must be blind. I am not sure how you fail to see what Apple is doing here or even what the whole technology industry (specifically cellular) has been doing for the past several years. No item is just a MP4 player anymore, or a cell phone, or a calendar, or camera. All of these items are merging together and as of recently the quality of each of the given features has risen. A PDA is a personal digital assistant, so though the iPod may have started as just an iPod it is now a PDA, whether people like it or not.
Cheers
Like it or not what Apple did was not right, legally they may be able to get away with it but all at the risk of losing tons of potential customers. They led a large majority of people to believe that this was going to be a phone-less iPhone and they have slowly taken away certain features. It isn't a matter of if they work or not because the iPod Touch platform and the iPhone platform are the same.
I wrote an email to the folks over at apple expressing to them how I felt about this change, and anyone else who is unhappy should do so also. All the people who bought the iPhone were able to cry because the chose to be early adopters we should be able to get the full potential from our iPod Touch.
The final thing I have to say is that the people who are comparing the iPod Touch to the Nano or Classic and saying that it isn't a PDA must be blind. I am not sure how you fail to see what Apple is doing here or even what the whole technology industry (specifically cellular) has been doing for the past several years. No item is just a MP4 player anymore, or a cell phone, or a calendar, or camera. All of these items are merging together and as of recently the quality of each of the given features has risen. A PDA is a personal digital assistant, so though the iPod may have started as just an iPod it is now a PDA, whether people like it or not.
Cheers
I think I'd better go and check the apple site to see whats going on. Unless someone wants to explain to me
Why are people complaining about something that they dont have yet? Wait until Touch is actually out. I'm sure within weeks somebody will find a way to get all iPhone applications on it. All this bitching and moaning is just a waste of time.