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What really irks me about the iPod Touch is that the technology is already there and the software is already written. In fact, Apple had to go out of their way to remove this.
Very true.

It's just like buying a car... They ask if you wish to pay for the security system already installed in your car, and if you do not, they go out of their way to remove it (or even worse, they don't remove the system, but just render it completely unusable).

Things like that drive me absolutely crazy.


It was bad enough (yet understandable) that Apple didn't include Mail with the iPod touch, but disabling the most useful feature in Calendar is just disgraceful. ...But at least we have YouTube. :rolleyes:
 
what apple should now do is make calculator just read only. "your computer magically knows what calculations youll be making that day, syncs these calculations and then has them ready for you next time you open up calc.app"

seriously..why would you also be able to add contacts. who uses this contacts feature? im sure more would use the ical feature.

arghhh apple makes me angry.
 
There isn't an unlimited right for Apple to change the details of their products. Granted, they have the legal right to change it before anyone has been charged for it, but the market isn't so forgiving. If people see that Apple keeps changing the specs or abilities of its hardware, people will stop buying products early on. They will wait until they know the full details of the product, and then buy. This will hurt the potential of other products Apple might want to release, because consumers will have less faith in that product delivering what Jobs promised. It's better in Apple's and consumers' interest if Apple keeps to its word.

I kind of agree with you about the market not being so forgiving, but I think the majority of the people who are going to pick up an iPod Touch aren't going to know whether you were ever going to be able to add calendar entries or not so I can't see it being too damaging.
 
i just called the Apple store Australia and i asked about the calendar app. she said you CAN add entries because it has the keyboard. i then told her that i heard the feature was disabled and she said she hadnt heard anything about it being disabled. i asked one more time just to be sure..and she said u can add entries. i think in Victoria, Australia a verbal agreement is a binding contract. cant wait to get my ipod touch and see if shes telling the truth. could be bad..for them at least.
 
i just called the Apple store Australia and i asked about the calendar app. she said you CAN add entries because it has the keyboard. i then told her that i heard the feature was disabled and she said she hadnt heard anything about it being disabled. i asked one more time just to be sure..and she said u can add entries. i think in Victoria, Australia a verbal agreement is a binding contract. cant wait to get my ipod touch and see if shes telling the truth. could be bad..for them at least.

I called twice and both times they confirmed with their specialists that they calender is read only.
 
I called twice and both times they confirmed with their specialists that they calender is read only.

stupid australian apple store. no idea.

but my feeling is..something about ical is glitchy on the ipod touch so theyre covering all bases by saying its read only. when its fixed..they will say that its a feature. why else would u be able to edit contacts? its just so counter-intuitive to have a read only calendar.
 
We should all bombard them with complaints, either via phone or the ipod report form on apple.com

If we make them realize, that people want this on there iPod Touch they may bring it back...
 
That confirmation from the tech guys raises the question then that if they're purposefully crippling the iTouch's software from the outset to segregate it from the iPhone, will they continue to do so into the future so any software update from Apple will re-cripple any third party hacks every time? If so, 'pain-in-the-arse' is not exactly a positive selling feature for me.

I'm still expecting it to be exactly what Steve Jobs said it was when he launched it - an iPhone without the phone - not just an iPod with a pretty interface.
 
If he gave all the iPhone customers $100 because some complained, then surely he'd give write access to the cal after some complaints... right?
 
Fair do's. But there is clearly a line drawn between the touch and the phone, touch is an ipod through and through, im not sure why people suddenly expected it to inherit PDA functionality.

PDA functionality is somewhat required in a smartphone, so the iphone has it, the touch is clearly just an ipod and does not.

People expect it because Apple told them so. Why don't you get it?
People also expect it to have the same capabilities, as it is just the same as an iPhone, except the phone part of course. The iPod Touch would be perfect for a lot of people, but now it isn't, as Apple has chosen to cripple it to be a iPod Classic with Safari...basically. :confused:
 
Order Cancelled!

That was the last straw, I ordered one within seconds of it being released. Apple would of made a killing on this product internationally (where there is no iPhone). A 16GB iPod is not worth £269, no matter how good it looks. I thought that functionality was the key with the iPod touch.

And to think I was about to sell my 80GB 5.5gen iPod on Ebay!

Looks like I am going to go back and join the Q for a UK iPhone.
 
I was going to get down to the Manchester Apple Store on launch day but I'm defintely waiting a few weeks first.

Lack of bluetooth now this. Apple sure know how to take the shine off their products.
 
I was going to get down to the Manchester Apple Store on launch day but I'm defintely waiting a few weeks first.

Lack of bluetooth now this. Apple sure know how to take the shine off their products.

besides wireless headphones..what would have been so great about bluetooth?
 
bummer...had that been there, a mail app and notes app we'd be looking at a Newton replacement....and the first Pocket PC/Palm Pilot to sell well for quite a while!
 
bummer...had that been there, a mail app and notes app we'd be looking at a Newton replacement....and the first Pocket PC/Palm Pilot to sell well for quite a while!

I'm waiting until the release before I give up on it. I mean despite Apple being able to disappoint they also surprise (599-399 price drop anyone? I see that as a positive).
 
you ever been to PC World ?

:mad:

I just gave my iPod 3rd gen the equivalent of using a defibrillator by connecting with firewire. It's been dead in my desk for nearly 2 years now.

Battery sucks, but it's working just fine! :cool:

That was probably just a marketing mix-up, if there anything like our guys there easily confused :rolleyes:

Don't expect anything over iPod features.. as it is just that.. an iPod.

:confused:

wifi?

text input?

Safari?

Touch screen?

Marketing mix ups like this can mean that they've broken the law (definitely in UK). Oops.
 
If he gave all the iPhone customers $100 because some complained, then surely he'd give write access to the cal after some complaints... right?

No. Because if he did, he sets a dangerous precedent - "Don't like something we've done? Bombard us with emails and we'll give you free stuff!"

No, I don't think so.
 
No. Because if he did, he sets a dangerous precedent - "Don't like something we've done? Bombard us with emails and we'll give you free stuff!"

No, I don't think so.

I agree. It's not a monetary issue this though. Simply providing a full ical app on the Touch will show they're responsive to their customers.
 
He's some kid who's wanting to wind people up. It worked. He can be ignored.

Yep, a 33 yr. old professional media designer, Apple user for 15 yrs. - kid.
:p

Agree, it is fun to wind up little kiddies that don't get their way. Their reactions remind me of my 6 yr old when he is denied extra candy after dinner.



Wahhhhhhh !
 
Yep, a 33 yr. old professional media designer, Apple user for 15 yrs. - kid.
:p

Agree, it is fun to wind up little kiddies that don't get their way. Their reactions remind me of my 6 yr old when he is denied extra candy after dinner.

Well honesty is to be applauded. I'm still older than you though so I can pull the seniority card :)
 
I just looked at my 5.5G iPod and it does not have the ability to add a Contact.

I don't see how this is a make or break feature for the iPod Touch.

If retaining a contact source is that critically necessary, one could just email themselves the information and enter the Contact data later when they get back home.

-joedy
 
I just looked at my 5.5G iPod and it does not have the ability to add a Contact.

I don't see how this is a make or break feature for the iPod Touch.

If retaining a contact source is that critically necessary, one could just email themselves the information and enter the Contact data later when they get back home.


You can enter contacts. The Apple site still says so.

If you don't see the potential of the Touch, that's fine - don't buy it.
 
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