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Well, as you've seen by the posts on this forum, the lack of calendar entries obviously does amount to a break of a sale.

For some people its the last straw - no email, no widgets and now no editable calendar. However, for some strange reason, you can still enter contacts?!!!! WTF?



I just looked at my 5.5G iPod and it does not have the ability to add a Contact.

I don't see how this is a make or break feature for the iPod Touch.


No offence, its really annoying when some one comes out with something like 'if you don't like it, don't buy it'.. well, obviously, they won't buy it!!! :) ( but they can still point out its weaknesses) Apple were so close to having a great product - the iPod Touch.. its soo frustrating!

If you don't see the potential of the Touch, that's fine - don't buy it.
 
Not being able to enter calendar events is a deal breaker for me as well. Sure, it is an "ipod" - so to speak - but it is also MORE than just an ipod. I have always wanted to add events on the ipod just wouldn't be easy to do with a click wheel (if that function was even possible).

With an on screen keyboard, this is now much simpler and I don't understand why cripple the device other than to save iPhone sales. And there I think is the rub.
 
I was thinking about getting an iPod touch because of the calendar functionality, but I definitely won't be doing it now. My wife just got a nano (with the free rebate offer) and a palm zire and was thinking about replacing them with a touch. She won't be doing that now. And neither of us was *ever* in the market for an iPhone, so we won't be buying iPhones instead.

I won't whine about it, but I do think it's a boneheaded move on Apple's part.
 
I'm still purchasing a Touch when it comes out, but it is too bad that adding dates to the cal is not possible. Same with Mail.

I emailed Steve Jobs just to throw my hat in the ring of people who would like Mail/editable Cal.

I'm not complaining, and I understand the move, but I'm still hoping that if enough people bring up the issue that they'll surprise us and add the funcitonality.
 
That's not a good news for me coz I just sold my 8GB ipod nano and the PDA phone I was using and bought myself a new basic phone, and looking forward to my new ipod comes with ical.
i think i should not trust the apple's site next time coz it lies.:mad:
 
I'm not going to waste my time or money buying an iPod touch. I'll wait for an iPhone in Canada... PLEASE STEVE SEND US THE IPHONE!!

The Stig
 
My Newton 2100* from 1997 has a calendar app and a full virtual touch-keyboard. The little month in the top corner shows today's date, Sept 12, 2007.

newton01.jpg


Unlike the iTouch, the keyboard has the numeric line across the top and can be moved around the screen. Or I can write on the screen with the character recognition.

This is decade-old technology. From Apple. November actually will be it's 10th Anniversary. And they can't get the keyboard to work with iCal on the iPod Touch in 2007?

PS. Excuse the two greasy fingerprints on the top. I was eating a packet of crisps when I decided to take this pic 5 minutes ago.


*It's the factory upgrade 2000 to 2100 model, so has 2000 on it but 2100 innards, but means it still has the original embossed Apple logo. The actual 2100 has a printed/stick-on logo.
 
God DAMN IT.

If the iPod touch is ACTUALLY CRIPPLED... I'm just going to get a Treo. Maybe I'll even go Windows Mobile. I am so pissed!!!!!! I can't get AT&T here but I want an iPod + most of a PDA + Safari!!!!
 
that would be sad. I was hoping to use it like a PDA, and have some additional software installed. If they won't allow new entries for iCal, would they let us enter new contacts at least??
 
Relax

Ok, I completely agree that it wasn't right to remove that capability before it was even shipped (if it wasn't just correcting a mistake), but I think some people need to just relax a bit, all the iPhone's apps will be ported right to the iPod Touch soon after its release. You'll be able to do so much on the iPod in due time.
 
I have 2 touch's on order with Apple. I called them yesterday and specifically asked if this feature was taken out of the iPod Touch and the operator put me on hold to check and she said that there is no internal documents relating to it and that it is probably a rumor. I'm a huge Apple fan to no end and if I find out that they lied to me plus changed it after I ordered it, I will be on the phone to send it back. I don't need it now, but what if I do? And it's not what I paid for. The only way I'd keep it would be if they gave me the warranty for free, free accessories (dock etc.) or a price reduction, because I bought the iPod as soon as the Keynote was over, which at that time, it still had that ability.
 
Yep.

I'd bet within the week you'll be able to install chat clients, games, etc. Not to mention Mail, Cal, etc.
 
I have 2 touch's on order with Apple. I called them yesterday and specifically asked if this feature was taken out of the iPod Touch and the operator put me on hold to check and she said that there is no internal documents relating to it and that it is probably a rumor. I'm a huge Apple fan to no end and if I find out that they lied to me plus changed it after I ordered it, I will be on the phone to send it back. I don't need it now, but what if I do? And it's not what I paid for. The only way I'd keep it would be if they gave me the warranty for free, free accessories (dock etc.) or a price reduction, because I bought the iPod as soon as the Keynote was over, which at that time, it still had that ability.

I definitely understand where you're coming from. I encourage you too email steve (of course I'm assuming Steve doesn't actually get the emails himself) and let him know how you feel. I did, and if there is enough of an issue I could see Apple doing something about it.
 
I have no doubt that the iPod Touch will get hacked and everything we could ever want will be put on it. But you know what? I don't like hacks. I don't like the mess it can make when you want to update your software and jump through even more hoops. When I think about Apple, I think of a company that makes products that just work. Hacks shouldn't be a part of that philosophy.

P-Worm
 
Not really the point, I will, but I shouldn't have to hack it.

Oh I agree, but I look at this from 2 different points of view:

a) What SHOULD be the case and what I have the right to feel cheated about

and

b) What IS the case, and given the situation what I will base my purchase decision on.


So, a) we SHOULDN'T have to hack this, but b) it won't stop me from buying the Touch because in all reality I'll be able to get the functionality I want one way or another.
 
It's Official

Engadget gets confirmation from Apple that iCal is crippled.

"Like current iPods, the touch can only view calendar entries created on your computer".

So Steve Jobs lied when he said it's an iPhone without the phone. It really is just an iPod with a pretty interface + web browser (to buy iTunes). And only 16GB drive.

It can only ever be more than that by using hacks, so the matter is now whether Apple plan to keep re-crippling it via software updates to circumvent any hacks etc.

Edit: Unless of course you use all Google's apps via Safari instead. But may as well get one of the upcoming Google phones as it will have better integration. Why does Steve Jobs want us to use Google apps over Apple's own?
 
Calendar Sync in Windows looks complicated

Ok. I will be a good consumer and try to get familiar, that I can't create calendar entries on the fly but will have to sync calendar entries with my iPod Touch. Good enough for me.

But then, my next question is, how will I do that? What calendars are supported? How easy will that be?

BTW: I'm a windows user, so some of you may argue that "easy" is an :apple:'s attribute not Microsoft's. Point taken.

However, looking at the iTunes information it says for windows users there is only one option to sync calendar entries: MS Outloook (I was happy I could avoid this software monster in the past - outlook express is sufficient for me).

Does that now mean I have to install big? And even better, according to the sync instructions on the apple page ( http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=302268 ) it says, that you have to allow Outlook to grant access by iTunes when you sync - every time?

Does that sound easy? No.
Is this elegant? No.
Will I like this? No.
Will I buy now a mac instead? I don't think so.

I only ask for one thing:
Please Steve, just give us that Calendar + sign back... ** sniff **
 
Ok, I completely agree that it wasn't right to remove that capability before it was even shipped (if it wasn't just correcting a mistake), but I think some people need to just relax a bit, all the iPhone's apps will be ported right to the iPod Touch soon after its release. You'll be able to do so much on the iPod in due time.

I totally agree with you. Plus the specialist/techs at apple said it's only software so it can be easily updated by updates in the future. From what he told me, he said that was not a smart move as he can see it would piss off a lot of people. Keep on writing to Steve and perhaps he'll release it after launch.

But i would guess most apps would be ported from the iphone to the ipod touch. (it should of been called itouch instead)
 
I totally agree with you. Plus the specialist/techs at apple said it's only software so it can be easily updated by updates in the future. From what he told me, he said that was not a smart move as he can see it would piss off a lot of people. Keep on writing to Steve and perhaps he'll release it after launch.

But i would guess most apps would be ported from the iphone to the ipod touch. (it should of been called itouch instead)

Why would you think that? They took the time and trouble to take it off from the iPhone software instead of just moving it over, why would they just put it right back on? The only way that makes sense is if there are enough differences inside that they had to re-write the software instead of moving it over and they are still working on it.

By the way, how many posts until I am not a newbie anymore?
 
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