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I am so excited about AVP and do believe it’s the future yet I also completely understand this.

When this is clocking in at the price of a MBA or M3 MPB for a regular version and the pro version is around the price of the 14 to 16 inch MacBook Pro with pro silicon, I think it will do much better
Oh brother. Gag me with a spoon if they have a Pro version.
 
You. You said 750k.


😂

Who says that investigative journalism is dead?!


It's not about the cost; it's about the user experience… of strapping screens directly on your face! Most people simply don't find this appealing, they find it abhorrent.

There's now significant hope that even the most effective marketing efforts of the greatest marketing company in history won't be enough to popularize this monstrosity.

Clearly they learned nothing from the utter failure that was 3DTV.
 
Do Apple still not realise that not all of their customers are billionaires.
Apple only needs to find about a million people who can afford this out of the 8.1 billion people on Earth. So that means only one person in 8,100 buys this.

OK, that is not fair because the product is not for sale worldwide. But still, Apple only needs one person in a thousand to buy this
 
Apple only needs to find about a million people who can afford this out of the 8.1 billion people on Earth. So that means only one person in 8,100 buys this.

OK, that is not fair because the product is not for sale worldwide. But still, Apple only needs one person in a thousand to buy this

...the magic 8 ball says...

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I think this speaks to a broader issue within Apple that needs to be addressed. I think they live in a bubble there at Apple Park. The promotional material that Apple released about the Vision Pro was evidence of that. A woman wearing her headset in a dimly lit room while packing/unpacking her travel bag, the dad wearing the Vision Pro at his kid’s birthday… Either these commercials were meant to be incredibly aspirational, or Apple is that far removed from the market at large.

The Vision Pro has the appearance of textbook sunk cost fallacy.

For Apple’s own good, I think they need to address the aforementioned “bubble” problem.
 
It was 1M at one point, and they had to cut it down due to production difficulties:
“Both projections imply a significant cut to production from an earlier, internal sales target of 1mn units in the first 12 months.”

The currently reported cuts don’t seem to be related to manufacturing issues.
Huh? How can you say "the currently reported cuts don't seem to be related to manufacturing" when the article you linked to discusses how manufacturing is going to be a major limiting factor to what they could do in the first year?

So again, this "rumor" seems based in nothing that we didn't already expect.
 
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So you say rumors at the time were 400k and you decide actually the number will be more like 750k. That really doesn’t make your predictive capabilities appear in any better of a light.
Again (and again) I said "if they can produce them." And you're taking this rumor as credible much more than I am.
 
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Again (and again) I said "if they can produce them." And you're taking this rumor as credible much more than I am.
Well I mean, the rumors I give credence to don't lead me to conclude that Apple that will sell 750k AVPs this year. Perhaps that's a signal that you should re-evaluate which rumors you consider credible and those which you do not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
What everyone wants. A bulky device on their head to watch tv.
first of all, have you seen with the pymax headsets look like “huge” avp looks small compared to them - and 2 avp is fully vr capable … Apple is choosing not to market it as a VR headset first because it saw how much of a disaster that was for every other company doing VR headsets they want to get this thing in trenched and business first and then trickle it down to consumers I think it makes sense to try this considering how badly other VR headsets did. - still trying to figure this out
 
Wonder how much it is due to price versus developers not wanting a future where Apple owns and controls yet another locked software ecosystem.
Man) just made a similar move where they basically are trying to make themselves the middleware for all of vr/xr - my jerk move honestly
 
Vision Pro is best in class in AR/VR headsets. My comment is not unique to just Apple product.

In general AR/VR devices extend our experiences positively beyond the world we know of. What is possible with these devices is not comparable with the world we know of

Frankly anyone’s judgment without having experienced at least 10 to 15 unique use cases on this device is questionable.

Experiences and possibilities are endless. It is so difficult to explain this as each implementation is so different in usage of AR, VR, combination, interaction and so on and then add to that sports, music, training, medical, education, art, museums, sight seeing ….. you see infinite possibilities

As a very trivial example, I have seen 4 implementation of shopping experiences and all different, unique and awesome

I can write endlessly about this but it is not possible. It is not one or two or 100 things to sum up the flexibility and power of such a device

I know people complain about price. I easily pay few hundreds to see Taylor Swift concert or Superbowl on this device even easily pay $$ to see a Van Gogh interactive show. And frankly based on implementation experience with a headset will be superior to an in person one!

Standing by the goal post at the time of a corner kick in a championship soccer match is something no one at the stadium get to experience!!!!
 
Whose expectations? Couldn't have been mine as I expected very few buyers due to the high price and no compelling use case.
Yeah, the person that said,”we should expect two iPad Air tablets to be manufactured by Apple during the first quarter of 2024.” suddenly knows that Apple expected to sell more than 250,000 devices this year.
 
If you gan get a very good headset for 600 bucks (fhd plus 120hz) with a desktop-like experience; why pay so much Money…
 
It flopped. We can say it out loud. Fanboys and Apple apologists, it's okay. You can still love all your shiny Apple things and admit a product of theirs just didn't land the way they thought it would.
They’ve sold more of them than of Mac Pro’s ;)
 
I love my vision pro but honestly I don't pull it out much because for me, the use case is mostly content consumption for now. I really wish it did more. I think that's the main problem. Yes, it's expensive and the best vr headset I have ever used but it needs something more compelling than just watching movies and visiting museums.
 
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