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Apple Debuts Second-Generation iPad Mini with Retina Display
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This was the iPad I've been waiting for (in 32 or 64 gig, Cellular). Now I have to persuade myself to spend that much money (vs. Nexus 7.2 at half the price...) 
The new mini seems like a no-brainer next to the Air. Really, I see the only distinguishing factors to be size/weight/battery. $100 less for the same performance, better PPI, smaller and lightweight. The naming seems weird though, the mini should have been the "Air", the now Air should be just iPad, and the new 12" should be "Pro." Anyways, I'll be getting the mini for sure.
When you strip away the glamour of the event, does any of this strike you as great? Retina iPad mini - does the cost truly justify that? I mean, the year old mini 1 is still considerably more when compared to a 2nd gen Nexus 7.
Who is clamoring for a thinner, lighter anything these days that Apple makes? Just seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors to charge a lot for features that sound AWESOME but hold no noticable advantage against competitors and/or current gen Apple products.
Who is clamoring for a thinner, lighter anything these days that Apple makes? Just seems to be a lot of smoke and mirrors to charge a lot for features that sound AWESOME but hold no noticable advantage against competitors and/or current gen Apple products.
What makes this tablet $170 dollars more expensive than a 16gb Nexus 7?
This logo
I understand why Apple products often carry a premium price over Nexus devices. or many competition device.
But $399 for essentially an 8" tablet is a tough pill to swallow, EVEN if it's a really damn nice looking tablet.
people were iffy at $329 for the mini. this is another $70. if you're not someone tied to iOS system and are looking with price as a major factor, the Nexus 7 (2013) just became that much more appealing.
I hope someone can find out whether nor not the new iPads have 2GB of ram. Since going back two generations it has had 1GB of ram, I hope they've increased it. Adobe is working on Lightroom for iPad, and other future apps and iOS updates will likely put a strain on that 1GB. 2GB would give me peace of mind to upgrade. My iPad 2 with only 512MB isn't running iOS 7 very well, with lagginess and app crashing more common.
What makes this tablet $170 dollars more expensive than a 16gb Nexus 7?
It's Apple, not Google.
So they lower prices on Macs so they can rape us on tablets.
Guess I will hold out for next version that has the touch ID. I've been holding my finger on the home button of my ipad mini lately anyway.
Guess I will hold out for next version that has the touch ID. I've been holding my finger on the home button of my ipad mini lately anyway.
they didn't really spend a lot of time on this in the presentation. i was kind of surprised that they just glossed over it.
i'm thrilled with the specs. i wanted retina and the A7 and M7.
the price is about $50-$100 more than i expected. they should have offered the original ipad mini at $249 and the new one at $349. that extra $50 is hard to swallow.
i have both the ipad 4 and the ipad mini and i almost exclusively use the mini. my wife has both and she almost exclusively uses the regular ipad. its just a matter of taste.
i'm thrilled with the specs. i wanted retina and the A7 and M7.
the price is about $50-$100 more than i expected. they should have offered the original ipad mini at $249 and the new one at $349. that extra $50 is hard to swallow.
i have both the ipad 4 and the ipad mini and i almost exclusively use the mini. my wife has both and she almost exclusively uses the regular ipad. its just a matter of taste.
I'm actually kinda agreeing here for a change... Did not see a price increase coming at all. i was thinking of upgrading from my iPad (3rd gen) to the Retina Mini, but not with that price increase. I was also surprised to see them not incorporate Touch ID.
Oh well, maybe next year. Not like I needed to upgrade anyways, so we'll see what next year holds. Probably spec bumps and Touch ID.
I think that's the idea. You can't get the full iPad package without going to the full iPad price.
What makes this tablet $170 dollars more expensive than a 16gb Nexus 7?
It's an iPad
To be completely fair, it comes with iWorks and iLife, which may not be $170, but damn, is there an alternative on Nexus? I don't think so. This is optimized for the iPad. Your $170, wouldn't be able to build something this good.
Seems like Apple has learned something from 5S/5C. They are betting on people are going to spend that extra money to get the better device. So they've put in the same specs to both Air and Mini.
Though the conspiracy theorist in me suspect that they couldn't do A7X at this time so they just said f%ck it.
Though the conspiracy theorist in me suspect that they couldn't do A7X at this time so they just said f%ck it.
I do hope it's a *typical* bad Apple move (like the ones they've been doing that sell 9 million units in one weekend).
The iPad 2 is still very popular. I expect education and industrial buy them do to the lower price as they probably find the performance more than acceptable. And after years of component cost reductions, I would not be surprised if the iPad 2 had amazing margins.
I was giving serious thought to moving from my 4th generation iPad to the iPad Mini if it had the A7 and retina, but I am getting the iPad Air. I like the larger screen and the weight reduction clinched it for me.
Absolutely, positively, NO MENTION OF SIZE OR WEIGHT! Wonder why!??
It got a whopping 23g heavier and .3mm (.01 in) thicker. You will NOT notice the difference unless you put two of them side by side.
No kidding. This pricing scheme sucks.
I think I'll buy myself an "air," even though that's a stupid name for an iPad.
I only went Mini for the lighter device. They've lightened the full size iPad, so might as well go back.
At least the price is reasonable.
What makes this tablet $170 dollars more expensive than a 16gb Nexus 7?
Apps. Familiar user interface. Seamless integration with other Apple devices. Aesthetic.
Not all of the things mentioned above may be important to you, which is why you may or may not want/need the iPad... but for those who get use out of the above-mentioned things, $170 is a small drop in the bucket for all you get.
Absolutely, positively, NO MENTION OF SIZE OR WEIGHT! Wonder why!??
Height:
7.87 inches (200 mm)
Width:
5.3 inches (134.7 mm)
Depth:
0.29 inch (7.5 mm)
Weight:
0.73 pound (331 g)
http://www.apple.com/ipad-mini/specs/
EDIT: That compares to the old one:
Height:
7.87 inches (200 mm)
Width:
5.3 inches (134.7 mm)
Depth:
0.28 inch (7.2 mm)
Weight:
0.68 pound (308 g)
So a 23g (7.5%) weight gain and 4% thickness increase
I was gonna move from the non-retina Mini to the retina Mini, but now I think I'll just go Air for 100 bucks more because that was a punk move, raising the price of the Mini. Sheeesh.