Apple Delays Apple Intelligence Siri Features

So rolling back to Sonoma was the right decision, at least for me, even more so since this Air has only 8 GB RAM.

I'll lets you enthusiasts do the beta testing. Really Apple should just hold at Sequoia and IOS 18 until their AI is complete and fully implemented.
 
Daalseth said:
That’s what I’ve thought for months. Siri is working the way Siri was designed to, ten years ago. If they want to make an AI personal digital assistant, they need to start over with a clean sheet of paper. Trying to scab it onto Siri is just never going to work well.
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Starting over from scratch means Apple will have to start all over again and put them probably two decades behind
 
tipoo said:
This has been a colossal miss by Tim and Apple, it's not last but best, it's last and last so far

Total matter of speculation here, but I think Steve's brain would have been on fire learning about the modern take on AI, the question of computers just doing one thing at a time instead of us just telling them to do something and they go off and do all the steps for it has come up many times during his career even that I can think of, it's been on his mind, and the modern method allows that. I think he would have seen a hard pivot in software and made a much harder pivot towards it.

Tim is the kind of guy to go, oh, that's not so big right now, maybe we'll do a bit of playing around in it, but he didn't go as big, as fast as needed, and now they're years behind...
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“Tim is not a product guy”.

Steve Jobs, 2010
 
Not a big deal unless you decide to make it a big deal. Getting it right may be more important. Doing this while safeguarding some semblance of privacy is also more difficult. I imagine many posters here have never worked on a tech project, or have worked on bad ones where they ship it no matter the functionality of it. And saying what 'Steve' would or wouldn't do is kind of pathetic. No one knows. But you're right, we can all make something up to fit our POV.
 
Apple_Robert said:
Siri AI is not imperative this minute. We have used our phones without it for years. Patience is needed. Not a big deal to me.
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indeed. Get AI working properly first.

I'm getting slightly miffed by Apple of late: long on promises but short on deliveries. Stop crying "Wolf" Apple.😑 The moral of the story isn't if you lie enough it becomes true.
 
needsomecoffee said:
The legend of John G. Apple finally has a proven, new manager for this group, yet will continue with John G. as the titular head to appease shareholders (not admit they screwed up the last 7 years or so).

From the link below: "Apple pays and has been paying John Giannandrea, Senior Vice President of Machine Learning and AI Strategy, millions upon millions of dollars for years. WTF of any import does he really do? WTF of any import has he really delivered? Have you used Siri lately? Yup, it’s still a steaming pile of *******."

macdailynews.com

Apple looks to license Google Gemini for iPhone, generative AI tools

Apple is in talks to build Google’s Gemini artificial intelligence engine into iPhone, iPad, and other platforms, people familiar with the…
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But I also read that Apple were so worried about Siri misbehaving that they persisted for years with the canned responses held together with sticky tape that apparently Siri has been for ages.

Apple always seemed happier with applied ml.

So I’m not sure if it’s all his fault but yeah whatever the reason they are obviously horribly behind.
 
Apple_Robert said:
Siri AI is not imperative this minute. We have used our phones without it for years. Patience is needed. Not a big deal to me.
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Apple’s entire Ai strategy around iOS 18 and now 19 is wholly based on AI, Robert, so OF COURSE an improved Siri model is imperative right this minute.

I just tried Grok voice last night and it was almost as seamless as the new Alexa+ model. Meanwhile Siri responds to more than half of my requests with “I’m sorry, you have to unlock your iPhone first.” If you’re going to spend billions on R and D plus an ad campaign that would make Hollywood studios blush, you’d better make sure your service isn’t the proverbial idiot child of the bunch. THAT is absolutely “imperative,” and for you to say otherwise is a bit staggering.
 
Seems like all the "missing" Siri AI features would cause major privacy nightmares if not done exactly right. I'm sure they chose to take the "but you said..." and "Apple sucks..." complaining now rather than suffer the "why did my personal data get leaked..." and "Apple sucks..." complaints and lawsuits from rushing out features and screwing it up.
 
Users: Hey, can we get a better Siri? It doesn’t work.

Apple: No but you can turn yourself into an animated poop emoji.

Users: Ok, how about Siri?

Apple: Here’s a $3,500 VR headset.

Users: Cool, now can you make Siri better?

Apple: New Siri with AI! It’s super smart! You can do all kinds of new things and it works!

Users: Finally!

Apple: You have to buy a new phone though. But it’ll be worth it!

Users: Ok, we’ll upgrade.

Apple: Just kidding, maybe next year. Or the year after that. We’ll let you know! But thanks for buying our new phone! You can make some uncanny valley “art” and get bad summaries of your notifications.
 
Lounge vibes 05 said:
Push notifications were delayed in entire year under Jobs.
Announced in June 2008 for a September 2008 release, never released, never mentioned, no delay announced…
We brought back up in June 2009 as a new feature of 3.0, despite already being announced a year ago and deadline completely missed with no comment.
Evidence:
www.macrumors.com

Apple Misses September Deadline for 'Push' Notifications

Macworld correctly notes that Apple has missed their deadline for a September release of background Push notifications for the iPhone. At WWDC,...
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arstechnica.com

Devs invited to test push notifications in iPhone OS 3.0

Apple sent out an e-mail to developers opening the doors to live push …
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com

Or, how about this, does anyone remember the white iPhone 4?
Announced in June 2010, didn’t ship until… April 2011.
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Let's not forget OSX Leopard!

"Apple missed Leopard's release time frame as originally announced by Apple's CEO Steve Jobs. When first discussed in June 2005, Jobs had stated that Apple intended to release Leopard at the end of 2006 or early 2007.[10] A year later, this was amended to Spring 2007;[11] however, on April 12, 2007, Apple issued a statement that its release would be delayed until October 2007 because of the development of the iPhone.[12]"

en.wikipedia.org

Mac OS X Leopard - Wikipedia

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Abobrek said:
Apple should have learned from AirPower by not showing something until it is ready to be released. I wonder what this means for iOS 19.
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Why though? Customers bought their phones in anticipation - it arguably helped them.
tipoo said:
Total matter of speculation here, but I think Steve's brain would have been on fire learning about the modern take on AI, the question of computers just doing one thing at a time instead of us just telling them to do something and they go off and do all the steps for it has come up many times during his career even that I can think of, it's been on his mind, and the modern method allows that. I think he would have seen a hard pivot in software and made a much harder pivot towards it.
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Agree. I don’t subscribe to the “This would have never have happened under Jobs” mantra - but agree on this one.

Cook lacks Jobs’ “vision” (yes) for paradigm shifts in computing.
He’d rather iteratively branch out into different variations and form factors on devices (“what else could we sell as devices that run our OS and serve as a platform for service revenue, without cannibalising our other products? A larger tablet? A home assistant robot? Goggles?)
 
GMShadow said:
Jobs shipped MobileMe.

Leopard was also publicly delayed (twice!) by nearly a year due to the iPhone taking up more software development resources than planned.
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The cube was a hardware disaster too. And antenna gate with the iPhone 4.

And … ping in iTunes.

Having said that, jobs was obviously a genius innovator and businessperson with the iPhone being the single most important piece of tech since the invention of the pc.
 
Not to worry, everybody, because you can always be assured that Apple skates to where the puck will be, not where the puck is, so Apple is not seeking to be the first but be the best. Besides, the era of spatial computing is HERE for early adopters that want to try tomorrow's technology, today, and Apple is pulling-back on the Siri upgrades because they just aren't quite ready to delight customers. This kind of break-neck, bleeding edge innovation is the lifeblood of startups, which, after all, is what Apple really is!
 
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