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Apple Delays Apple Intelligence Siri Features

bhirt37 said:
For those that dont know, Amazon is using Anthropic's Claude for the AI part, not something developed in house. So its not really fair comparing something leveraging an existing proven tech with apple trying to do it in-house.

That being said, apple is missing the mark and embarrassing itself.
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Incorrect. Alexa+ will be using a combination of Amazon’s own Nova model(s) and Anthropic model(s).

They’ve also described the system as model agnostic, that suggests to me that they are open to using any models in future as they deem appropriate.

It might be that once they’ve got more advanced models of their own they might only use their own models.
 
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One can excuse Apple with the contrived and overused "Apple is late but they get it right" line only for so long.

Life doesn't wait for Apple. If I want/need a feature today, and other companies have it, but I have to wait 1, 2, 3+ years for Apple to deliver those features, that's 1, 2, 3+ years of

MY LIFE.
 
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Apple is delaying some of the Apple Intelligence Siri features that it expected to release in iOS 18, an Apple spokesperson said in a statement to Daring Fireball.

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Apple says that it is going to take longer than expected to roll out the more personalized Siri experience, and that these features will be rolled out "in the coming year."The personalized Siri features that Apple is talking about were demonstrated at WWDC when introducing iOS 18, and they were expected to come out in an update to iOS 18. The functionality includes personal context, onscreen awareness, and improved app integration. A quick summary:

Personal Context

With personal context, Siri will be able to keep track of emails, messages, files, photos, and more, learning more about you to help you complete tasks and keep track of what you've been sent.
  • Show me the files Eric sent me last week.
  • Find the email where Eric mentioned ice skating.
  • Find the books that Eric recommended to me.
  • Where's the recipe that Eric sent me?
  • What's my passport number?
Onscreen Awareness

Onscreen awareness will let Siri see what's on your screen and complete actions involving whatever you're looking at. If someone texts you an address, for example, you can tell Siri to add it to their contact card. Or if you're looking at a photo and want to send it to someone, you can ask Siri to do it for you.

Deeper App Integration

Deeper app integration means that Siri will be able to do more in and across apps, performing actions and completing tasks that are just not possible with the personal assistant right now. We don't have a full picture of what Siri will be capable of, but Apple has provided a few examples of what to expect.
  • Moving files from one app to another.
  • Editing a photo and then sending it to someone.
  • Get directions home and share the ETA with Eric.
  • Send the email I drafted to Eric.

Rumors suggested that Apple initially planned to introduce these features in iOS 18.4, but ahead of the first iOS 18.4 betas, there were reports that the functionality simply wasn't ready. Apple will debut an iOS 18.5 update after iOS 18.4, so we could see the new Siri features in that update, but it's possible we'll be waiting even longer. "In the coming year" is a bit vague, but it looks like the new Siri functionality will come sometime in the next 12 months.

Apple did already update Siri with a new Type to Siri feature, a refreshed look, ChatGPT integration, and more natural language understanding as part of its Apple Intelligence improvements, with more to come in the future.

Update: According to Reuters, the Apple Intelligence Siri features have been delayed until 2026.

Article Link: Apple Delays Apple Intelligence Siri Features Until 2026
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This was advertised in SEPTEMBER:


Class action incoming….
 
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Johnny907 said:
Apple’s entire Ai strategy around iOS 18 and now 19 is wholly based on AI, Robert, so OF COURSE an improved Siri model is imperative right this minute.

I just tried Grok voice last night and it was almost as seamless as the new Alexa+ model. Meanwhile Siri responds to more than half of my requests with “I’m sorry, you have to unlock your iPhone first.” If you’re going to spend billions on R and D plus an ad campaign that would make Hollywood studios blush, you’d better make sure your service isn’t the proverbial idiot child of the bunch. THAT is absolutely “imperative,” and for you to say otherwise is a bit staggering.
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You’re comparing apples (ahem) to oranges there. Can Grok access your OS, apps and personal data? No.

Asking you to unlock your phone first is a privacy and security design decision. You can criticise that, but the comparison to Grok (or any LLM) doesn’t make sense in multiple ways.
 
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Part of the usp of Apple was that they did things at their own pace, and never announced tech or products that they had not fully fleshed out or significantly improved upon.

Announcing Apple Intelligence when severely undercooked, in order to please shareholders, is something i'd argue would never happen under Jobs. As cliche as it sounds.

Then again i suppose not rushing the product out until its ready is the right thing to do.
 
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Should have been working on this year's ago. The wait and make it better than others isn't going to work in a segment that moves daily and your competitors have a massive head start. They won't catch Google in A.I. or assistant technology as they are rolling out stuff monthly because they did the ground work year's ago.

They did the ground work of breaking out android into app modules so the they don't have to have big updates all the time. It will get to the point where everything can be updated through the play store.
 
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Steve Jobs left Tim Cook with a roadmap for the next decade and Cook had been executing it well. Jobs died in 2011 so around 2021 that roadmap ran out.

Apple has been struggling ever since to look over the horizon and anticipate the next big thing because they no longer have their visionary.

I've been ringing the alarm on Tim Cook's neglect of Siri for much of that decade, and the existential importance of getting it right. With the acquisition of Siri, Steve left Tim with his final One More Thing: conversational computing. Tim Cook just didn't understand and didn't know what to do with it and let it shrivel on the vine. So here we are.

My 2023 thread on the topic:

ipedro said:
As much as people hate on it, Siri is critical to Apple’s future. It’s frustrating that so little is said about Siri from senior executives at Apple.

Artificial Intelligence is hard but a company of Apple’s resources should be pouring not just millions but billions into developing Siri.

Like the transition from a cursor based UI to multi-touch, a transition from touch to voice UI is imminent. That’s not to say that touch will go away, only that voice UI will become effortless and very prominent. When multi touch appeared, people still continued to use cursor based UIs on Mac for example, but it’s inarguable that a vast majority of ”computer” users today use multi-touch devices.

The same will happen with voice UI. All three of Apple’s newest categories: Apple Watch, AirPods and HomePod use voice primarily with the latter devices using it incrementally more than the first. Reality Glasses are likely going to use voice UI in some capacity.

With chatGPT and now Google Bard, the era of conversational AI is here and there’s no indication (yet?) that Apple has a response. Apple poached AI expert John Giannandrea from Google over 4 years ago. It’s about time that he shows his work.

What comes next can’t just be an evolution of Siri but an entire new platform that’s scalable and that can compete with the best of the AIs.

No exaggeration, if Tim Cook underestimated Siri’s importance to the future of the company and drops the ball on this, it could be his Steve Balmer vs iPhone moment.
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Art Mark said:
Not a big deal unless you decide to make it a big deal. Getting it right may be more important. Doing this while safeguarding some semblance of privacy is also more difficult. I imagine many posters here have never worked on a tech project, or have worked on bad ones where they ship it no matter the functionality of it. And saying what 'Steve' would or wouldn't do is kind of pathetic. No one knows. But you're right, we can all make something up to fit our POV.
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The big deal is that they used the feature to market the iPhone 16. Apple taking their time and not always being the first, but the best is what has made them great. They should have never announced the feature nor used it to sell phones if it wasn't completed.
 
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iSpunk said:
Apple Intelligence: The Not Ready for Prime Time AI
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Absolutely, it's voicemail to text converts message from a garage about a new car event sent to grandmother to ask if she's been able to have sex and calls her a piece of ****

www.bbc.co.uk

Granny gets X-rated message after Apple AI fail

Louise Littlejohn said she was shocked and then laughed when she received the error strewn voicemail transcription.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
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Tim COOKed Apple. This has gotten beyond embarrassing for them and honestly squashing what little interest those had left in WWDC and future updates. Well done by the current Apple teams on empty promises (their advertising and statements not mine) I do want to give credit where it is due.
 
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AlexESP said:
Sure, we all know Steve Jobs always met his deadlines…
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No but he acknowledged that the missed deadline was a problem and people's heads rolled. Not so much with Cook. His attitude is "any time you all get around to it is fine. Just give some half-baked functionally so I don't look bad at the keynote."
 
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vertsix said:
Pathetic. Under Tim's rule, they keep missing deadlines. Jobs wouldn't have it.
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I disagree with you. I think Jobs would say not to release anything until it's pretty close to perfect. He was a perfectionist!
 
ipedro said:
Steve Jobs left Tim Cook with a roadmap for the next decade and Cook had been executing it well. Jobs died in 2011 so around 2021 that roadmap ran out.

Apple has been struggling ever since to look over the horizon and anticipate the next big thing because they no longer have their visionary.

I've been ringing the alarm on Tim Cook's neglect of Siri for much of that decade, and the existential importance of getting it right. With the acquisition of Siri, Steve left Tim with his final One More Thing: conversational computing. Tim Cook just didn't understand and didn't know what to do with it and let it shrivel on the vine. So here we are.

My 2023 thread on the topic:
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Agreed. Tim Cook wasted billions on Project Titan & Vision Pro. He bet on the wrong horse.
 
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First the Mac Studio with m3, now this. I get AirPower vibes from the new Siri… it’s obviously a huge task to overhaul in the advertised way, i totally get that. But how they could miss to start working on that until basically 5 minutes before last wwdc is beyond me.
 
Good. Half baked is worse than nothing

I'm going to buy a Google phone and transition slowly, most likely. The ecosystem is a problem.

Now, if the time comes when I can feel better about an iPhone, I'm not averse to that.

It's actually kinda funny this hugely wealthy company, and this.
 
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