Trent Reznor (a musical AND marketing genius) has done it. Very successful AND free.
No reason why Apple would not. Welcome to the future. Open your mind.
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Apple Demands Prototype iPhone Back
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Trent Reznor (a musical AND marketing genius) has done it. Very successful AND free.
No reason why Apple would not. Welcome to the future. Open your mind.
Good Points, However...
You may be right that people won't want to do video chats, however, I can definitely see some cool Apple commercials pushing the feature. Others may of had video chat previously but I do think there is something to be said about "Apple magic" is millions of dollars in advertising. Also, video phones are like fax-machines...they're really only useful if a lot of people have them. For example, what's the point of having a $700 video phone if the person you call often uses a Razor? At least with the iPhone you could place video calls with 4G and receive video calls if you are one of the millions who have a 3G/S. If they don't enable video chat then I really don't see the point of the front-facing camera except for the rare "self-pic".
As far as Apple products with webcams and iChat... in my opinion iChat is a terrible program...I could barely understand how to (set it up and) use it. Now Skype on the other hand...my wife talks to her cousin and parents overseas with Skype all the time and they make heavy use of the video feature. Seems to me that with a front-facing camera Apple and AT&T have a choice...let everybody use programs like Skype to do their video calls or make it part of the phone service itself and become distinctive again.
You may be right that people won't want to do video chats, however, I can definitely see some cool Apple commercials pushing the feature. Others may of had video chat previously but I do think there is something to be said about "Apple magic" is millions of dollars in advertising. Also, video phones are like fax-machines...they're really only useful if a lot of people have them. For example, what's the point of having a $700 video phone if the person you call often uses a Razor? At least with the iPhone you could place video calls with 4G and receive video calls if you are one of the millions who have a 3G/S. If they don't enable video chat then I really don't see the point of the front-facing camera except for the rare "self-pic".
As far as Apple products with webcams and iChat... in my opinion iChat is a terrible program...I could barely understand how to (set it up and) use it. Now Skype on the other hand...my wife talks to her cousin and parents overseas with Skype all the time and they make heavy use of the video feature. Seems to me that with a front-facing camera Apple and AT&T have a choice...let everybody use programs like Skype to do their video calls or make it part of the phone service itself and become distinctive again.
Doesn't this kind of incriminate him. He was able to identify the owner by his full name, but his attempts to return the device were to call a general customer support. Seems like that was done on purpose knowing you wouldn't get far, but to try and show you made an effort to return the device. Having identified him and knowing he was on Facebook they could have sent him a private message on Facebook and offered to return the phone.
Interesting thing to note: Grey Powell (the Apple employee who "lost" his new iPhone) has a nice big Zune logo on his MySpace page.
It's all starting to make sense...
What's reallly scary about that is a 27 year old is using MySpace
I thought that MySpace was either for the pre-pubecent or otherwise pedophiles ?
All I want to know is...
All I want to know is when Apple will start selling this inspired iphone? If they go back to the pansyfest that was the iphone 3g I will be bummed....
This iphone is the iphone we have been waiting for, it is the phone that Steve was waiting to release until they worked out all the kinks. This phone is elegant, classic and kick @$$!!! I am someone who hates to stand in lines, I avoid lines at all costs, but if this is the new iphone, I might actually get in a line for this.... not all night though
All I want to know is when Apple will start selling this inspired iphone? If they go back to the pansyfest that was the iphone 3g I will be bummed....
This iphone is the iphone we have been waiting for, it is the phone that Steve was waiting to release until they worked out all the kinks. This phone is elegant, classic and kick @$$!!! I am someone who hates to stand in lines, I avoid lines at all costs, but if this is the new iphone, I might actually get in a line for this.... not all night though
It doesn't matter if they were not sure it was Apple's only that the seller told them how he obtained it (he did) and that clearly showed the device was not legally his to sell. I found it on a barstool does not make it yours.
Gizmodo knew they were buying stolen merchandise.
They broke the law.
They are criminals.
I really hope that Briam Lam or Jason Chen (whoever is sent to give the phone to apple) find the boys in blue alongside apple's lawyers. If nothing else then to question them on record as to the goings on of this deal so prosecutions can be set forth.
At some point that person will upgrade, and since you've been pestering 'em for a year to get a video phone maybe they finally will.
Someone has to be first adopter. We won't get anywhere if stalled by never-ending "no, YOU go first".
Wow, some of you really need a reality check .
Apple lost a 4th-gen iphone.
Gizmodo got a hold of it, took some photos.
Apple asked for it back.
Gizmodo gave it back to them.
WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY CHANGE THE DESIGN BECAUSE OF THIS? That makes zero sense. It's not like ONE single person is "not going to buy it" because of this. Likewise, it's not like you guys aren't going to watch the keynote or whatnot when steve jobs announces it.
Some of you act like Gizmodo ruined the end of a movie for you.
.Apple lost a 4th-gen iphone.
Gizmodo got a hold of it, took some photos.
Apple asked for it back.
Gizmodo gave it back to them.
WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY CHANGE THE DESIGN BECAUSE OF THIS? That makes zero sense. It's not like ONE single person is "not going to buy it" because of this. Likewise, it's not like you guys aren't going to watch the keynote or whatnot when steve jobs announces it.
Some of you act like Gizmodo ruined the end of a movie for you.
"You have published all the info we wanted you to publish, now give us our red herring back."
That's right -- there's no evidence pointing to any particular assembly date, so in theory the device could be an ancient prototype. Here's where we can only fill the gaps with guesswork grounded in common sense. Why would anyone in the trusted circle of iPhone OS developers (or QC engineer, or whatever he is) need or want to carry around some frankensteined old prototype this close to launch date? "Hey Gray... we just got another batch of pre-production models for field testing, wanna help us out?" "No thanks, I'll just stick with Old Betsy here, she's been with me for two years now." I've worked with product development, I've seen what the inhouse people are like whenever the latest version or build is ready and they know they can have it for free to play with... they line up like kids in front of Santa. Nobody says "no thanks, I'm happy with this early prototype here".
Whoever is trusted with carrying the new iPhones is only allowed to do so because it serves Apple, and Apple arguably wouldn't get anything useful out of anyone using an outdated prototype. Therefore it's unlikely (but in all fairness, not impossible) that anything but the latest is in circulation.
If it's working, then it is most likely a final design.
Physical case designs will be iterated with first plastic and then metal dummies. Most of the case design will be done by building non-working prototypes.
The whole point of design is to plan the product prior to manufacture.
Working prototypes would be incredibly rare and expensive.
Whereas working manufacturing samples would be commonplace and handed out for field testing.
C.
Wow, some of you really need a reality check
Apple lost a 4th-gen iphone.
Gizmodo got a hold of it, took some photos.
Apple asked for it back.
Gizmodo gave it back to them.
WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY CHANGE THE DESIGN BECAUSE OF THIS? That makes zero sense. It's not like ONE single person is "not going to buy it" because of this. Likewise, it's not like you guys aren't going to watch the keynote or whatnot when steve jobs announces it.
Some of you act like Gizmodo ruined the end of a movie for you.
While your simplicity of the matter makes sense, your argument does not.
in case you missed it, this is potentially the biggest leak in Apple history, it deserves 25+ pages of discussion.
Lastly, why do poster's continue to ignore this was found in the middle of March? That BTW was 30+ days ago.
What in the world happened in the interim?
And Trent Reznor does not own and operate a multi-billion dollar tech company. There is absolutely no precedence for this to happen and they don't need any - they have people to leak things with when they want to.
The situations are in no way comparable - Trent lives by promoting his stuff in any way he can. Apple does not plant unreleased hardware that haven't been announced and aren't slated to release for several months. Doing so runs the risk of benefiting your competition.
It sounds like it spent more than a week with the finder. Before Gizmodo got it.
The question is why did Gizmodo not go public earlier?
My answer (which is just a guess) is that Apple asked them not to.
C.
email to Steve
"Sorry, I think most of us would have preferred to have see and hear about it from you."
"Sorry, I think most of us would have preferred to have see and hear about it from you."
There may be surprising twists in the story yet to be unveiled (think kid-and-the-helium-balloon), but that doesn't mean these twists will involve some cunning scheme with Steve pulling the strings. More likely it will turn out to be about a disgruntled employee who decided to sabotage his employer's business in a grand way, only to find that he simply handed them millions worth of free advertising.
I'm really not the one arguing that it is an old prototype, quite the contrary... you sort of took the devil's advocate part of my post out of context there. ;-)
I totally agree - this was a controlled leak designed to get the next gen iPhone into the news.
My guess is the final product will not resemble the mock up.
Not to mention the Civil Suit from the person they named (lost wages? damaged reputation?)
Their failure to properly return his lost merchandise, as per the law, and their further publication of both the item in question, and his NAME might open them up to liability if he is Fired over this incident and is unable to find work.
Pity there are no Lawyers in California who might want to pursue a case like this.
I think the leak of Apple's version 2 iPad was bigger. It will be released in 6-9 months and People still post about the prototype. You can even buy it in shops (although, it's US-only at the moment)