Because China is asking them, if not demanding they do. They need each other. Although China would be okay without Apple eventually.
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Apple Denies Report Claiming Chinese Spies Planted Microchips in iCloud Servers
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The ceo of apple is a pussyhat wearing resistance fighter in bed with China
Gotta love when the press goes after him
It’s very sweet and poetic
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Are you sure that's not a picture of Burt and Ernie?
I'm just making fun of you because you sound triggered over nothing. It's kind of entertaining so I honestly don't care of you shut up or not. Was just hoping you'd get an ounce of self awareness.
Just like I'd grab a friend to the side and tell them they are making a fool of themselves for their benefit, not mine. You're doing more harm than good to any cause you may have.
I stopped identifying with either side when neither side really represents my complete views. Beyond that I see people always aligning their views to simply match their party values with no thought at all. That's not a democracy, that's how democracies fail. We've got 3 branches of government that are supposed to have checks and balances against each other. However, how does any of that matter when everyone just votes and aligns themselves with their party and doesn't do their own thinking.
Stock prices are also at stake. Admitting to this might adversely affect Apple's public perception and hence valuation.
I think people are asking the wrong question. Which part or parts of the story are inaccurate?
There is a difference between admitting to it, and calling Bloomberg liars:
Over the course of the past year, Bloomberg has contacted us multiple times with claims, sometimes vague and sometimes elaborate, of an alleged security incident at Apple. Each time, we have conducted rigorous internal investigations based on their inquiries and each time we have found absolutely no evidence to support any of them. We have repeatedly and consistently offered factual responses, on the record, refuting virtually every aspect of Bloomberg's story relating to Apple.
On this we can be very clear: Apple has never found malicious chips, "hardware manipulations" or vulnerabilities purposely planted in any server. Apple never had any contact with the FBI or any other agency about such an incident. We are not aware of any investigation by the FBI, nor are our contacts in law enforcement.
In response to Bloomberg's latest version of the narrative, we present the following facts: Siri and Topsy never shared servers; Siri has never been deployed on servers sold to us by Super Micro; and Topsy data was limited to approximately 2,000 Super Micro servers, not 7,000. None of those servers has ever been found to hold malicious chips.
As a matter of practice, before servers are put into production at Apple they are inspected for security vulnerabilities and we update all firmware and software with the latest protections. We did not uncover any unusual vulnerabilities in the servers we purchased from Super Micro when we updated the firmware and software according to our standard procedures.
We are deeply disappointed that in their dealings with us, Bloomberg's reporters have not been open to the possibility that they or their sources might be wrong or misinformed. Our best guess is that they are confusing their story with a previously-reported 2016 incident in which we discovered an infected driver on a single Super Micro server in one of our labs. That one-time event was determined to be accidental and not a targeted attack against Apple.
While there has been no claim that customer data was involved, we take these allegations seriously and we want users to know that we do everything possible to safeguard the personal information they entrust to us. We also want them to know that what Bloomberg is reporting about Apple is inaccurate.
Apple has always believed in being transparent about the ways we handle and protect data. If there were ever such an event as Bloomberg News has claimed, we would be forthcoming about it and we would work closely with law enforcement. Apple engineers conduct regular and rigorous security screenings to ensure that our systems are safe. We know that security is an endless race and that's why we constantly fortify our systems against increasingly sophisticated hackers and cybercriminals who want to steal our data
Bloomberg has been attacking Apple more and more of late, and it only seems to have gotten worse with Gurman joining the fold. Honestly, at this point, given their rotten reporting in this area, I am no longer inclined to trust them. Bloomberg needs to get their act together if they want people to take them seriously in the future as it stands now they look like they are pushing a tabloid sort of fake news.
As would being caught in a lie that goes against almost everything they’ve built the company on.
Censorship by definition is a conservative principle!
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Boy, you do need a mirror!
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He (sic) does love China!
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This emotion is not in "their" repertoire!
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Funny guy. Until you actually look at what the President has been able to accomplish thus far.
This has been happening forever. I first noticed "fake news" in 1982. And I was very disappointed in Ted Koppel for misrepresenting facts that I knew because I was studying that very subject in college at the time.
Both are true, actually.
Good luck with that. Even if you COULD look, how would you know what to look for? How do you know that your CPU doesn't have a backdoor in it? Or your NIC? Just looking won't tell you anything really. This really is a job for a nerd.
I like the way you're thinking, almost as much as the fact that you ARE thinking.
Yes it would stop. And yes, SuperMicro would lose its certification. I don't know how long that process might take, but we'll see.
Bloomberg has never written any article that isn't a blatant anti-Trump screed. They have no objectivity at all. And that's sad, because even as a pro-Trump voter, I need to be able to trust my news sources. This is the quintessential "All Trump/All Bad" source. So I don't trust them.
Yes, and I would be inclined to take Apple's side.
Of course they would. Bloomberg has so many liberal friends at and in Apple, it probably won't damage their long term relationship one little bit
You're putting way too much stock into the denials. What if it really is an untrue accusation? Do you expect those companies to just stand by and say nothing, just because they're afraid that people will assume it's a strategy? No, no, you MUST ALWAYS DENY untruths. Always. Forcefully and angrily. Always. And in my opinion, if you can, you should sue the portrayers. Because once you do nothing, that's when lies will stick.
I seriously don't know where you get this.
Sure they lie. But why are you assuming that Apple and Amazon are both lying? I say you're assuming because I see no proof.
What a great kernel of truth here. Nicely put!
I did.
I am an IT person of many years. I couldn't find a single assertion "backed up by details". Sorry.
That sounds nice, but I've seen this strategy before.
More deja vu.
Wow, the deja vu is powerful with this one!
That's it, make us visualize the doubt, that'll work!
Yes, it is prevalent, and that's why we call it "fake news".
How? From the "backed up by details" that I couldn't find in the article?
Oh, "everything you know", huh? Nice. Doesn't mean anything. But nice.
Oh, like the missing "details" that you apparently found in the original article?
Okay, good for you.
And that's why it's always liberals that you see trying to silence conservative voices on college campuses. That's why liberals harass conservatives out of restaurants, just for being there.
I actually don't trust anybody completely. But in this case, Bloomberg's track record of fake news is not deserving of any trust. So I'll wait for a more trustworthy source.
It's Bloomberg! You should go back and research that, because they really ARE in the same group as those others you've named. Please, re-evauate!
I'm sure this President would take it as an act of War. But would Congress vote to actually declare War? I doubt it. If you think that's wrong, then maybe you should also re-evaluate your own voting habits.
You only start wars that you can win - or so the wisdom of age demands. Not what happens, as history shows, repeatedly.
USA has not fought a noble war, if any war can be called so, since WWII. They do back out frequently, even from psych or economic wars - most recent example is the one against ZTE!
This was more for the financial gain of the Drumpf family.
As for the Bloomberg article - why are they not kicking more of a fit over the ZTE thing. Looks like anybody can be bought.
No Chinese computer or smartphone behemoth can survive without the IP and technology hardware support from USA.
This is false.
For example, you got a lot of things wrong in your post (as well as many things right), but this was the only one worth responding to.
You're bias is blinding you to reality. Radical conservative and liberals alike have harassed each other and tried to silence each other. In this they are both the same, and singling out liberal groups as if to imply that conservative groups are without guilt is disingenuous at best.
After reading the article, then the responses I am trying to figure out who is behind all this. Because someone is laughing all the way to the bank, someone is cashing in.
I love how news controls our stock market.
EVERYDAY, "Investor fears.... Investors fret over... Investors worry"
People need to start going to jail for propagating fake news. Instead they get a slap on the wrist, and released into the wild again. Zero accountability.
That won’t happen until there’s such a massive breach that damages their reputation among consumers so much as to give them no other choice and/or the US government forces them to do so. Apple will keep playing with the devil as long as it’s more beneficial than harmful. The Chinese government will need to reign some of this in because I don’t think they want millions of unemployed tech workers on their hands when Apple, HP and others are forced to move production somewhere else out of fear of selling products compromised by a Chinese surveillance “feature”.
Funny guy. Until you actually look at what the President has been able to accomplish thus far.
This has been happening forever. I first noticed "fake news" in 1982. And I was very disappointed in Ted Koppel for misrepresenting facts that I knew because I was studying that very subject in college at the time.
Both are true, actually.
Good luck with that. Even if you COULD look, how would you know what to look for? How do you know that your CPU doesn't have a backdoor in it? Or your NIC? Just looking won't tell you anything really. This really is a job for a nerd.
I like the way you're thinking, almost as much as the fact that you ARE thinking.
Yes it would stop. And yes, SuperMicro would lose its certification. I don't know how long that process might take, but we'll see.
Bloomberg has never written any article that isn't a blatant anti-Trump screed. They have no objectivity at all. And that's sad, because even as a pro-Trump voter, I need to be able to trust my news sources. This is the quintessential "All Trump/All Bad" source. So I don't trust them.
Yes, and I would be inclined to take Apple's side.
Of course they would. Bloomberg has so many liberal friends at and in Apple, it probably won't damage their long term relationship one little bit
You're putting way too much stock into the denials. What if it really is an untrue accusation? Do you expect those companies to just stand by and say nothing, just because they're afraid that people will assume it's a strategy? No, no, you MUST ALWAYS DENY untruths. Always. Forcefully and angrily. Always. And in my opinion, if you can, you should sue the portrayers. Because once you do nothing, that's when lies will stick.
I seriously don't know where you get this.
Sure they lie. But why are you assuming that Apple and Amazon are both lying? I say you're assuming because I see no proof.
What a great kernel of truth here. Nicely put!
I did.
I am an IT person of many years. I couldn't find a single assertion "backed up by details". Sorry.That sounds nice, but I've seen this strategy before. More deja vu. Wow, the deja vu is powerful with this one! That's it, make us visualize the doubt, that'll work! Yes, it is prevalent, and that's why we call it "fake news".How? From the "backed up by details" that I couldn't find in the article? Oh, "everything you know", huh? Nice. Doesn't mean anything. But nice. Oh, like the missing "details" that you apparently found in the original article? Okay, good for you.
And that's why it's always liberals that you see trying to silence conservative voices on college campuses. That's why liberals harass conservatives out of restaurants, just for being there.
I actually don't trust anybody completely. But in this case, Bloomberg's track record of fake news is not deserving of any trust. So I'll wait for a more trustworthy source.
It's Bloomberg! You should go back and research that, because they really ARE in the same group as those others you've named. Please, re-evauate!
I'm sure this President would take it as an act of War. But would Congress vote to actually declare War? I doubt it. If you think that's wrong, then maybe you should also re-evaluate your own voting habits.
Yo, you don't have to be so apologetic.
No one actually cares about your opinions.
No, there is not mechanism that requires lying about an investigation. A national security letter accompanies certain demands for information, and all the letter requires is that you not disclose that you received the order or the request for information. Thus, if Apple received a NSL, all they legally couldn't do is to say that the FBI asked for these records. That doesn't mean lying, they can simply say "no comment," or refer you to the language on their website (below). Beyond that, Apple could absolutely discuss that there was an active investigation into a breach, etc.. Law enforcement relies on the voluntary cooperation of people and companies to not disclose active investigations, unless those people have security clearances and the information is classified.
"U.S. National Security Orders demand that Apple provide information in response to U.S. National Security legal authorities. They are not counted as Device Requests or Account Requests. In the second half of 2016, Apple received between 5,750 and 5,999 National Security Orders. Apple reports National Security Orders to the extent allowed by law. Though we would like to be more specific, by law this is the most precise information we are currently allowed to disclose.
In addition, if Apple receives a National Security Letter (NSL) from the U.S. government that contains an indefinite gag order, Apple will notify the government that it would like the court to review the nondisclosure provision of the NSL pursuant to USA FREEDOM. The government then has 30 days to let the court know why the nondisclosure should remain in effect or can let Apple know that the nondisclosure no longer applies. If Apple receives notice that the nondisclosure no longer applies, it will notify the affected customer(s) pursuant to Apple’s customer notice policies."
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I searched for "national security letter” and this Edward Snowden guy keeps sending me spam about Nigerian princes. Thanks a lot.
Umm, that would be about servers used for Chinese customers. The Chinese govt is mandating that Chinese personal data be held on Chinese servers. Ostensibly because the Chinese govt is concerned about the same thing everyone else is -- potential for foreign shenanigans (but no doubt also so they can have a little control over their citizens' stuff).
But, no, most iCloud accounts, etc. are not located on servers in China.
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Some of us have been defending Apple since the early 80's when 150M from Bill Gates *apparently* kept Apple from going bankrupt within a couple of weeks. (and not all Liberals)
Even now, Apple still largely have the mentality of a start-up: fairly focused product line; quite simple, functional team structure (not silos); single P&L bottom line (not separate divisions where losses are conveniently hidden); design and engineering functions running hand in hand, etc.
And then there are startups, many of which have their share of problems, including a lot of ethical problems. Everyone loved to hate the liberal, hippy college drop-out, Jobs, with his abrasive manner. But he was 1000 times better than many recent narcissistic millennial CEOs like Zuck or Holmes of Theranos.
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Yeah, it booted right up, and 3 weeks later it's stilton.
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