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Apple Design Chief Jony Ive: iPhone X Will 'Change and Evolve' Over Time
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Personally, I like the Galaxy design the most out of those 3 choices. There is no display appealing to me, that has a cutout. Not on android, not on ios. Apple could have remedied themselves from all the ridicule by one of the last 2 choices.
But instead its fans are easily wowed, over silly things.
Why shouldn’t users be wowed?
The iPhone X is be most radical departure yet. Apple has removed the home button and fingerprint sensor and added Touch ID. The innards have been completely redesigned, as have the means of navigating within iOS. I am especially excited (even though I am using the 8+) because I know Apple has great plans for Face ID and want to see how it factors into Apple’s grander scheme of things.
I understand the comic strip you posted was likely meant in jest, but that to me, that’s the most annoying thing about these supposed “Apple critics”. They spend so much time and effort trying to explain away Apple’s success when they should be trying to explain them.
And you wonder why all these claims of “Apple being doomed” continue to be proven wrong year after year.
But sure, blame us for being the sheep here.
Are you serious, or baiting?
While Apple’s keeping busy in their labs making some terrible decisions with the UI since ios 7 under Jony’s stewardship, third-party developers who seem to understand user needs better are coming to the rescue with much better apps. Apple’s current podcast app is downright unusable (Overcast to the rescue), and Google maps may always be better than Apple Maps. The Apple music app is a terrible, twisted mess trying to do too many things, things that completely alienate the user wishing to organize and play only music they own (Audyssee to the rescue).The three apps I use on my phone the most are best by third-party developers who get things in a way for which Apple seems to have completely lost the plot....they get things like Apple used to before Apple started thinking too much and fixing nonexistent problems at ios 7.
The crux of the issue is Apple’s unwillingness or inability to recognize different things work for different people, both software and hardware. I can only imagine my improved satisfaction level if third-parties were permitted to produce laptops and skins for operating systems, since Apple‘s version of “Think Different” is “Think like Jony wants it to be.”
What say you: are those third-party developers in the wrong to not be just keeping up with the times that are changing?
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Are you serious, or baiting?
The three apps I use on my phone the most are best by third-party developers who get things in a way for which Apple seems to have completely lost the plot....they get things like Apple used to before Apple started thinking too much and fixing nonexistent problems at ios 7.
The crux of the issue is Apple’s unwillingness or inability to recognize different things work for different people, both software and hardware. I can only imagine my improved satisfaction level if third-parties were permitted to produce laptops and skins for operating systems, since Apple‘s version of “Think Different” is “Think like Jony wants it to be.”
What say you: are those third-party developers in the wrong to not be just keeping up with the times that are changing?
I am, and always have been, 100% serious in everything I say.
Do you realise that overcast is not used by the majority of podcast listeners? Even the bulk of people who do use said app come mainly from a more tech-savvy crowd. I recall seeing somewhere that over 60% of users still use the default podcast app.
I too use the overcast app but I would not dare to assume it’s the best app for everyone. As it stands, the developer still refuses to create a Mac and Apple TV app because he feels it’s simply not worth the effort, and I actually went back to the stock podcasts app for a while for the iTunes support.
I am using the stock Apple maps, because it’s good enough and gets me to where I need to be, and I like the cross-device support (pretty cool on my Apple Watch as well).
Apple is the kind of company that would make a design decision which results in their users having less choice, but possibly (in their opinion) a better experience.
That is what makes Apple so polarizing. They aim for product experience often times at the sacrifice of user choice. And if their idea of what you want in a product matches yours, then it is full of secret magic and delight.
And if not, it can be frustration, like jogging through quicksand. It’s the price of playing in the Apple ecosystem. You will always be living by Apple’s definition of what a great user experience entails. Never yours.
But I think that is part of the large frustration with the late Apple. It used to be that the limitation were made up for by deep integration and great apps along with a good user experience.
Today iOS is a long shot from that old standard. The stock apps are crap and a lot of the design choice are extremely user unfriendly, inconsistent or downright crap. And in a lot of cases it is not that conscious decision to change something (i.e. removing the headphone jack, which was controversial similar to removing the cd drives back in the day), a lot seems to be due bad programming, sloppy design and overall lack of direction (like the third overhaul of notification and controls in three years and it is worse than ever).
And this is only iOS .. the situation is even much worse on the Mac side of things. Were Apple apparently has completely given up on hardware and software and actively works to alienate long time users and professionals.
As a long time Apple/Mac user/fan myself I find that frustrating, but you are right Apple is Apple and if I don't like it I have to vote with my wallet, which I do.
Then extruding the Notch could make it really stand out as a front/selfie bulb. So cute.
I honestly don't think Apple is earning that much from the sales of AirPods. The AirPods might serve to keep users entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, but on their own, I doubt their margins are all that fantastic.
I would say that the headphone jack was removed to make more room for the iphone X, and to help sell the narrative of Apple believing in a wireless future and wanting people to get used to the idea of all their devices connecting wirelessly with one another.
Apple don't do loss leaders, it's not in their DNA. I'm pretty sure they will be making at least 30% profit on every set they sell.
Um, no LOL Got mine on the 3rd and have been enjoying this amazing phone for the past 10 days!
That's a pretty amazing outlook. You seem surprisingly unwilling to even consider the possibility for Apple to ever go too far in decisions regarding product experience. Many like me think they’ve crossed the line while you sound like it’s impossible for Apple to ever cross the line. Do you agree with that statement? Or if there's a line that by your definition would be too far, why would it be more acceptable than my or any other user's line?
Of course I realize not everyone uses Overcast. In fact it's not surprising that only a minority like myself complain about the iOS podcast app & today's iOS. I've always felt most users will take what they’re given and just deal because they're unable to be moved enough to complain nor capable of realizing there's a better way to do things that they're missing out on. Thank goodness third-party developers are around to pick up Apple’s and Jony’s self indulgences. Good luck to Apple's responding to the stress to maintain growth by their providing increasingly-esoteric software and hardware experiences...I for one think that strategy is unsustainable if they don’t change course, which should absolutely include removing Jony from anything software-related, and possibly even possibly starting to look for a new lead industrial designer before Jony’s designs become so overly-minimalistic that they become silly caricatures that even turn off customers like you. Unless it's impossible for Apple to do anything to ever turn you off.
Back onto Jony as a "supreme designer" and all this talk about software making up for hardware, and Tim Cook as a best-in-class steward for letting this happen: Look down from 100 feet at an iPhone X, 8, 7, and 6. Other than certain user interface features, how different are they? Not a single "durable iPhone" option with built-in casing & drop-protection in the line-up, for those who use their phone out on the job maybe 99% outdoors in grimy, rough situations? No "flip-phone smaller than an SE option where the screen is certainly smaller than normal but caters to those preferring a smaller phone with more protection and more screen space & utility than an iWatch?" Those two are, of course, two imagined examples but it begs the question: how really good is Jony Ive as a designer? Or is he a one-trick-pony running too wildly without SJ to reign him back into usefulness? How good is Tim Cook as CEO with broad Vision, to be allowing Apple to sell 3 generally identical jewelry-phones simultaneously?
If you completely disagree over some large differences within the bigger-picture quality of Apple’s priorities as reflected in their products today vs. 10 years ago, then, well, OK.
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The same genius lead designer who let Magsafe go away for a more pleasing (to him) array of output ports also created situations requiring clumsy workarounds like this. Would love to hear him dance around with some pretty words in an interview article and try to explain why this is better than before:
From a Samsung commercial.
With no end in site to iOS minimalism silliness and overly-expensive fragile jewelry-like iPhones with less choices given to the customer like headphone ports, can anyone reading this recommend a good site or youtube video comparing Android side-by-side with Apple iOS in a way that could convince even the most ardent iOS'er? I'm sure they exist but am looking for a super boost start here rather than look for myself. A main hesitation for me against Android has been that I find Google's material design UI to be even worse than Jony Ive's minimalism design iOS 7-11 UI. But if Android is so user-customizable, I'd like to at least explore options as much as I detest the idea at the same time. Thank you!
From a Samsung commercial.
With no end in site to iOS minimalism silliness and overly-expensive fragile jewelry-like iPhones with less choices given to the customer like headphone ports, can anyone reading this recommend a good site or youtube video comparing Android side-by-side with Apple iOS in a way that could convince even the most ardent iOS'er? I'm sure they exist but am looking for a super boost start here rather than look for myself. A main hesitation for me against Android has been that I find Google's material design UI to be even worse than Jony Ive's minimalism design iOS 7-11 UI. But if Android is so user-customizable, I'd like to at least explore options as much as I detest the idea at the same time. Thank you!
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I've seen it too, it is indeed great, but if you put it side by side with any of the previous phones 6s 7 or 8, the difference is so tiny you will ask yourself is this really worth £1k? It is bigger which is what I meant by nicer, but most apps are no optimised and IOS makes piss poor use of the extra space.