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So, you look at the patent tittles and assume you know exactly what is in the patent. The patent office sure could get out of their backlogs if you worked there.

No, it's called clicking the links in the flippin' summary.

They posted links to the patents with the multi-paragraph descriptions.
 
Apple had voice assistant features before Google and Blackberry/RIM existed- I was referring to a history of use of a technology and why saying something was "first" is hard to pin down depending on how specific you're trying to be.

We're talking about mobile patents here. It's really not that hard to pinpoint things.
 
No offense - but people see in that document what they want to. Having been in the industry - I don't see it as a "how to copy apple" - I see it as competitive analysis. With many slides stating do something LIKE Apple not COPY

Note my use of emulate.
 
Note my use of emulate.

Fair enough. My comment - although in response to your post was in general. There are plenty who believe the document is a smoking gun that shows that Samsung willfully copied everything Apple did.
 
Oh please just do one Apple, nobody gives a damn about your bleating any more. Bring out a red hot iPhone 5S or 6 to shut your competition up instead.
 
Wow. Apple found a patent violation. I hear Coke is next....their cans have rounded corners.
 
In fact, do you have any example of this being the case historically?

Open platform is different from open source.

Apple's iOS has APIs and such, but most users can only install and uninstall apps. Even uninstalling apps is a bit difficult at times . . . . e.g. iCal and iBooks.

iOS users have to hack to make further modifications.

The same debate was going on with Windows and Mac OSX in the early 2000's although I never had an issue making changes to elements in MacOSX.

We'll have to ask a dev for more info, that's as far as I can go.
 

According to who? That sounds like a pretty lose definition:

This article does not cite any references or sources.


Apple's iOS has APIs and such, but most users can only install and uninstall apps. Even uninstalling apps is a bit difficult at times . . . . e.g. iCal and iBooks.

iOS users have to hack to make further modifications.

The same debate was going on with Windows and Mac OSX in the early 2000's although I never had an issue making changes to elements in MacOSX.

We'll have to ask a dev for more info, that's as far as I can go.

The question was related to: "Open platforms always succeeds"

That is highly questionable, look at game consoles for example, I think most users actually cares about convenience over reaching some theoretical max in terms of ability to configure. Also, the fact that Google's platform is open is also questionable, they are increasingly trying to lock users into the platform, which is why I mentioned new emerging alternatives that have no ties like this.
 
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Man, the Samsung fanboys and Korean students are out in force after this article was posted. :rolleyes:
 
Just sue them! Samsung have plenty of money from their washing machine and life insurance businesses.

Next time, Samsung should invent their own innovations.
 
Just sue them! Samsung have plenty of money from their washing machine and life insurance businesses.

Next time, Samsung should invent their own innovations.

I'm amazed to find somebody that still subscribes to this point of view, talk of flogging a dead horse. Samsung have been innovating for the entire 2-3 years these lawsuits have been running. Hence their dominant position in the smartphone market.
 
Man, the Samsung fanboys and Korean students are out in force after this article was posted. :rolleyes:


Do you say people like the one writing this?

Just sue them! Samsung have plenty of money from their washing machine and life insurance businesses.

Next time, Samsung should invent their own innovations.

Because I don't know a better way of trying to make Apple users look like fanboys that writing things like this.

Or do you have any example of those Samsung fanboys and Korean students? Are you one?
 
What relevance has an article about Google evading taxes with what the op said?

What relevance does Apple evading taxes have to this patent law suit. The article is relevant to his statement specifically of course! Both posts are irrelevant and off topic in this thread.
 
According to who? That sounds like a pretty lose definition:

I actually don't think it's as loose as one might think. If I hear Open Source, I am thinking the original code is available for any and everyone. When I hear open platform, I think the source code is locked, but any and everyone can apply add ons and enhancements.

Windows certainly isn't open source, but it is a very open platform.

The sources at the bottom of the page give much more clarification, open source and open platform are definitely two different things.

The question was related to: "Open platforms always succeeds"

That is highly questionable, look at game consoles for example, I think most users actually cares about convenience over reaching some theoretical max in terms of ability to configure. Also, the fact that Google's platform is open is also questionable, they are increasingly trying to lock users into the platform, which is why I mentioned new emerging alternatives that have no ties like this.

It was indeed, but the reference to Ubuntu and Firefox OS maybe what threw me off. Those two are free and open source software, not open platform, which is what Winni was referring to.

When looking at open platforms, the evidence of their success rests with Microsoft Windows and Google's Android.
 
Why does Samsung get so much attention and really so many sales with its galaxy phones? Iv'e used Android quite a bit with my old Htc One X, but fail to see how Samsung phones are the holy grail to buyers and the media compared to say the Htc One, nexus 4, or the lg optimus g pro. And Apple always tries suing them, not the smaller guys?
 
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