This is so pathetic and beneath Apple. Going after Samsung for these patents is unnecessary and borderline desperate. Then again, all Apple has managed to do recently in the mobile space is to stretch an iPhone and shrink an iPad. Pretty boring stuff and not exactly what I would call "innovation". Meanwhile iPhone 6 and iOS 7 look further and further away.
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Apple Details Five Patents Violated by Samsung Galaxy S4 and Google Now
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And then have millions of people copy and make profit off of your idea/invention!
Every company copies in some way shape or form. I think with less of these BS patents( and yes majority of patents are BS) the only winners are the lawyers. And I am all for protecting ideas but anything with universal in it should not be a patent. It should have to be a very specific thing and labeled that way. That in itself would eliminate at least half of apple's lawsuits. In fact lawsuits in general for patents.
Because if they went after Google they'd get countersued for their own patent violations
If Apple really wanted to fix infringement issues, it would've cross licensed patents with Google already. But if that was done, it would have nothing to attack Android with. On top of that Google has monetization problems with Android so if they settled, it be for a pitiful amount of money. So instead it leaves Google alone and goes after the OEM's
These lawsuits are basically a weapon for Apple to indirectly attack Google. And they're gonna keep doing it as long as Android dominates the market
The thing is they aren't even really attacking Google, all they are going after is samsung. You don't see apple going after other android OEM's( other than a few patents with HTC which they cross licensed) It is just pure hate for samsung it seems, since google now is on all devices with jb so they would have a lot they could go after if they really wanted to attack google indirectly.
Wait, by "owning" do you mean Costco beats Sam's Club competitively, or that Costco has legal ownership of Sam's Club? Last I checked, Sam's Club was owned by Walmart Stores, Inc.
So basically another news of apple absolutely not working on anything relevant.
SEriously? Does their tech department even exists anymore?
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AS I mentioned numerous times that mobile field is only field it really matters and looks like apple will be losing that battle once they introduce a 5s.(Slide however already has begun).
I HOPE that this is not indication of them just giving up on all things that are relevant such as desktop and laptop.. I STILL love mba and imac to death and hope that they fight the fight to keep it going.
There are too many signs already that company is corrupted and do not have best interest of consumer but hopefully I am wrong.
SEriously? Does their tech department even exists anymore?
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AS I mentioned numerous times that mobile field is only field it really matters and looks like apple will be losing that battle once they introduce a 5s.(Slide however already has begun).
I HOPE that this is not indication of them just giving up on all things that are relevant such as desktop and laptop.. I STILL love mba and imac to death and hope that they fight the fight to keep it going.
There are too many signs already that company is corrupted and do not have best interest of consumer but hopefully I am wrong.
There should be a separate sub forum for stupid stuff like this. Nobody cares, macrumors just wants to make money from the page views to stir **** up. I guess I got suckered in.
It seems like after the passing of Jobs, they have gone downhill. Cook just doesn't seem to have the same intentions for the company and maintaining the greatness that used to be associated with apple.
Yeah well, you don't remember Steve is the one who started all this patent war?
If anything, Cook is a CEO with better personality who ease off on Apple's arrogance and lead it to being a nicer and friendlier company.
You wouldn't find Steve apologize to anyone for ever releasing a dud product.
Oh yes, Steve released a handful of lemons too. Time to blame him, no
That's true though a lot of what they're going after Samsung for are Google infringements. Someone pointed out they're willing to sue Samsung for Google Now but not for S-Voice. I don't think they're targeting Samsung specifically - I think it's more Samsung is the only OEM worth going after right now. If LG created a smartphone line with as much branding power as the Galaxy and generated a larger share that couldn't be ignored, I'm pretty sure Apple would go after them too.
If Apple could kill Android by suing Google directly, it would've done so already. But Google would counter sue so a lawsuit would probably result in cross licensing passed down to OEM's, letting them off the hook. End result would be Android would still continue but Apple could no longer use the courts to disrupt. On top of that settlement money would be tiny since Google has a monetization problem. Instead Apple leaves Google alone and uses the courts to make it a pain in the ass for OEM's to adopt Android or any service that runs on Android.
Yup
To further - (and I was the one that mentioned s-voice) - the way to take down Android would be to go after the big fish. Samsung makes 95% of the profits (that doesn't mean they have that marketshare) but point is - if they win against Samsung (who also has the deepest pockets next to Google when it comes to Android) then other companies will "fall" because - like HTC, they can't afford a mis-step. I firmly believe HTC worked with Apple because they couldn't afford a lawsuit. Conversely - Apple didn't mind working with HTC because they aren't much of a threat. Also because they had an upper hand. I would bet that HTC has very little patents/IP in comparison.
Also - any "wins" for Apple against Samsung becomes precedent for any/every other lawsuit Apple files against OEMS and/or Google themselves. These lawsuits are about laying foundations. Take out the foundation brick by brick (i.e. you don't have to win the battle - just the war).
ETA: That being said. I don't think Apple will be successful.
Sortakinda, but not really. The easiest thing for Apple to do would be to go after a smaller OEM that isn't as capable of fielding a decent defense. If Apple wins, they have instant legal precedence for the validity of their patent. That'd make any case they'd bring against a larger OEM over the same patent that much more difficult to fight against.
Anyone that is posting the typical "tired of all these lawsuits" should understand that these are the same lawsuits we've been hearing about for years, just added to.
As Cook put it, product cycles are much faster than the legal system.
Also, not that I think the current system makes any sense at all, but because these lawsuits live within that system it's hard to argue that Samsung didn't try to copy the iphone's interface as much as possible: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/8/3227289/samsung-apple-ux-ui-interface-improvement
Download the whole 132 page document (it's an internal Samsung document) that literally goes feature for feature comparing their Vibrant to an older iphone with notes as to how to emulate the experience as much as possible.
Again though, I personally feel technology patents should only have a shelf life of 5 years max given the pace of advancement. The current scheme truly stifles bringing innovation to the masses.
As Cook put it, product cycles are much faster than the legal system.
Also, not that I think the current system makes any sense at all, but because these lawsuits live within that system it's hard to argue that Samsung didn't try to copy the iphone's interface as much as possible: http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/8/3227289/samsung-apple-ux-ui-interface-improvement
Download the whole 132 page document (it's an internal Samsung document) that literally goes feature for feature comparing their Vibrant to an older iphone with notes as to how to emulate the experience as much as possible.
Again though, I personally feel technology patents should only have a shelf life of 5 years max given the pace of advancement. The current scheme truly stifles bringing innovation to the masses.
It is generally advised to NEVER check to see whether you're infringing on patents, because you most definitely are, and knowing about it would make it willful infringement.
Yeah well, you don't remember Steve is the one who started all this patent war?
If anything, Cook is a CEO with better personality who ease off on Apple's arrogance and lead it to being a nicer and friendlier company.
You wouldn't find Steve apologize to anyone for ever releasing a dud product.
Oh yes, Steve released a handful of lemons too. Time to blame him, no
Never said he was perfect but he never would have let the company down the path cook is taking it, and releasing a half baked app wouldn't have happened either. They all make mistakes, Cook is just making more of them it seems.
No offense - but people see in that document what they want to. Having been in the industry - I don't see it as a "how to copy apple" - I see it as competitive analysis. With many slides stating do something LIKE Apple not COPY
Agreed .. I believe Apple has done the same analysis too. Hence the Notification Center came up
Yes, Cook does not have best intention for consumers. His job is to pay his circles and be in political power.
Let's remember that Jobs might have started the patent war because he was genuinely pissed off about people copying apple. He was suing people while making great products.
Cook? This dude is all about sucking up and only interested in making money.
Not everyone is Jobs..
Cook's words have no power in tech circles. He is just babbling on stuff that he has no interest and no knoweldge of. That's why people don't believe in him.
Cook is just there to make money.. that's it. And he is doing that by already very well established apple procuts. I really believe floodgate will open once apple lazily brings out their iphone 5s. Wow.. what a time to not be in apple's corner. Look how lazy their entire company is. Everything is delayed. And for what? For just making incremental update? Wow.. just wow..
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Yeah well, you don't remember Steve is the one who started all this patent war?
If anything, Cook is a CEO with better personality who ease off on Apple's arrogance and lead it to being a nicer and friendlier company.
You wouldn't find Steve apologize to anyone for ever releasing a dud product.
Oh yes, Steve released a handful of lemons too. Time to blame him, no
I think people believed in SJ. Cook is apologizing because dude has no clue in technical world. NO idea and NO interest. He just wants to apology and get it over with. SJ would have put fire under his people's ass to make things right instead of apologizing. I understand people are mad at people who are not staying loyal w/ apple. HONESTLY? People are just PISSED OFF. I work in tech company and I have known many many people who were original iphone adapter. No longer.. People are moving over to other things while apple just sit and wants to collect money from past inventions.
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I love apple products and I have majority of their stuff. Imac is still my #1 technical piece and MBA comes w/ me wherever I go. I still own iphone..
But wow.. If you cannot see that apple as a company is not doing anything.. just wow..