These new iPads are impressive but they do seem to show how far ahead the 2018 models were in design, speed, peripheral support, etc. the M1 iPad Pro feels like an evolution not a revolution, but part of that is the state of iPadOS.
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That’s exactly what i was afraid it would look like. I don’t get why they didn’t just do OLED.
Really, this is an over engineering screen NOT to use OLED. Having said that, I am very happy with my purchase as it adds lots details to make it a joy to use over my 11” 2018 model.
Sure do, at night I use mine at 35% brightness non issue for me.
When watching a film. When it cuts from a dark shot to a light shot, you see the backlight flick on about 1 frame after the cut.
Simple: miniLED is quite a lot cheaper than OLED
Well.. most miniLED screens I saw are quite a bit cheaper than their OLED equivalents.
OLED also has issues that it degrades over time and changes color depending on brightness.
miniLED has blooming and sometimes slow backlight.
regular LED backlight has no deep blacks.
They all have some sort of disadvantage. It depends on use case and what you're willing to sacrifice
Burn in, if you ask me. It’s the worst thing that can happen to any screen. Full brightness - which is when the blooming is most apparent- is not really used for professional level editing, for example. It’s more like 20% brightness, or else it’s crap everywhere else. So this blooming thing irrelevant, as it only exists between very bright whites and very black blacks. For these people I mean.
for watching movies it’s a largely unnoticed phenomenon, although it exists of course.
For me as a photographer, this is better than oled.
Burn-in doesn’t seem to be an issue for the oled iphones. And the rumors are that the regular (non-pro) ipads are getting oled.
as for blooming, note that apple markets the hell out the brightness these things can achieve (“1000 nits! 1600 peak nits!”) so it’s not like blooming is going to be rare.
I’m not sure burn in would be noticed on an small screen such as an iPhone to be honest. It’s something that’s more noticeable on a larger screen and when your specifically ‘looking’. I may watch a film on a phone, or play a game and wouldn’t see it (until I’d ‘seen’ it at least!). On an editing screen it’s apparent immediately and instantly affects everything. For the sake of slightly blacker blacks with regards to watching movies, on the pro models at least - this is a better choice if you ask me.
With regards to the marketing, well I don’t know. Contrast ratio is vital, and that’s partly possible due to the brightness factor. It’s an iPad, so the brighter it can go the better- think laptop in the park. The brighter the monitor can get the better. The darker the blacks can get the better. The better the contrast, it’s all good! Editors, Facebook browsers, surfers and movie watchers alike, non watch anything at the max brightness unless they are in direct sunlight. So I dunno. It’s a marketing thing for sure, it’s something that’s hardly ever needed, but also a good thing if needed.
Edit: I must add also, this is aimed at professionals - a marketing term for sure, but also a real metric. Professional monitors exist across all spectrums, oled feature in almost none of them.
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For burn-in there's pixel shifting that Apple and other manufacturers use. Also OLED TVs have it. This effectively prevents burn-in on OLED.
Well, i guess i’ll wait until i see one in person. I definitely was distracted by blooming on the XDR monitor, though. I frequently work with light text and line drawings on dark background, and that seems to be worst case for blooming.
Ah perhaps in your case. I work with 20% brightness almost exclusively, if I don’t the output of my work is over exaggerated on other screens or for print, for example. Everyone is different, but to be perfectly fair, I feel these pro iPads are primarily aimed at professionals in imaging industries. Most work at low screen brightness, depending. I have only seen blooming very obvious at full brightness.
I’m not saying you are incorrect, but if Apple was targeting these towards imaging professionals who mostly work with low screen brightness, why would Apple make a big deal out of the 1000 nits and 1600 nits max brightness? It’s one of the big things they talked about as an advantage of the new display. I’m not saying OLED is better or worse then miniLED but OLED on the iPhone is superb. Can only imagine OLED on an iPad Pro screen size.
Because these things are still completely relevant? I say I work with 20% brightness, but I hope you don’t assume that means I need a ***** dark screen?
How do you scroll static elements? Your example can not scroll or move??"Transitional characteristics of local dimming zones, such as a slight blur or color change while scrolling against black backgrounds, are normal behavior."
TIL users are scrolling static UI elements:
Coming from the second generation 12.9 iPad Pro (2017), it is very hard to un-see what I can see with the 2021 5th gen. 2nd gen looks flat by comparison.
They did not use OLED because of color shift? Or PWM?
Maybe my next upgrade will be when Apple add micro-led 🤞🤞
Maybe my next upgrade will be when Apple add micro-led 🤞🤞
🤷♂️ Huh? I asked a fairly straightforward question and even stated I'm not saying you are incorrect. I get it, you find a lot of value for what you do in the M1 iPad Pro. There are many of us with 2018 and 2020 iPad Pros who don't see the value, but can appreciate the specs.
Why does it feel that LED has the best compromise? 😔
Sucks to be me then.
Since having started downscaling to QHD on my 27" 4k monitor, I could not look at other screens the same again. Since Macs use pixel doubling when downscaling, my 4k monitor is effectively using 5k resolution. When comparing it to just normal QHD, the difference is night and day for me.