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Apple Disabling Support for Intel Atom Processor in Latest 10.6.2 Build?
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How much was the upgrade price on the E8600?
Considering a Core 2 Duo LGA 775 today should be limited to sub-$US500 computers. Then again that's AMD's realm. LGA 775 is a dead end.
How much was the upgrade price on the E8600?
Considering a Core 2 Duo LGA 775 today should be limited to sub-$US500 computers. Then again that's AMD's realm. LGA 775 is a dead end.
We all know that its cheaper to build it yourself, but thats not in the realm we call fair testing.
How about using a base model Core i5 750 system instead of the hilariously expensive E8600, emphasis on hilariously expensive, and the upgrade price for it?
I never said about building it yourself either.
Hilariously delirious?
I thought thats what you were referring to.
I would compare the base models of the i7 computers but dell hasn't updated it yet as it still says windows vista. With Vista though it comes to about $2600. Expensive processor and Ram upgrade. XD'
But you take it into the 27" league, the dell is $200 cheaper but there is no 4850, 27" monitor. Still no speakers. Etc.
Watch Steve & Phil pull a Psystar
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8026649687541008431#
1:24:00 in.
Sony v. Connectix lawsuit resulted. Sony lost, reaffirming Sega v. Accolade. US Supreme Court declined to review.
Cool Times Ten!
"Wouldn't it be great if we could play some of those titles, too?" "Turns your Mac in to a Sony Playstation."
If Steve Jobs thinks it's great to do that to Sony, why can't Psystar do it to Apple?
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8026649687541008431#
1:24:00 in.
Sony v. Connectix lawsuit resulted. Sony lost, reaffirming Sega v. Accolade. US Supreme Court declined to review.
Cool Times Ten!
"Wouldn't it be great if we could play some of those titles, too?" "Turns your Mac in to a Sony Playstation."
If Steve Jobs thinks it's great to do that to Sony, why can't Psystar do it to Apple?
Funny, because I have two Fry's Electronics within relatively close proximity (I live Phoenix, AZ), and I can very much say that they did not offer 10.1 free to "anyone who walked up". I remember that very well, because I had purchased my PowerMac 867 at CompUSA, and had hoped to save time by going to the Tempe Fry's Electronics to pick up 10.1, only to be told that I had to bring in a receipt showing I had purchased 10.0 or an Apple system there.
Thus, I ended up having to go to what was then the closest CompUSA, only to be told they had run out of the limited copies they had, and so they called and located the closest CompUSA that had a copy, which they reserved for me. Once I got there though, they had to look me up in the system to verify I properly could receive a copy.
Trust me, I remember 10.1 very well, because as much of a pain in the ass it was to properly obtain a copy, I was still very much excited for it, since 10.0 was a giant piece of ****.
Maybe your experience was that they simply handed them out, but that was not what was supposed to occur.
What? Many analysts and reviewers have already been stating that Windows 7 "Starter Edition" will likely rarely get used, since although Netbooks are limited in what they can do, very few if any PC manufacturers are going to be willing to ship their Netbook with what essentially is a heavily-restricted version of Windows 7, as the consumer backlash would be tremendous.
Add to the fact that even your entry-model Netbooks have been shown to run Windows 7 Home Premium just fine, and yeah, there's very little evidence that Windows 7 Starter edition will be anything but another SKU that ultimately ends up being discontinued.
And Netbook prices have actually been going down, not up. So where are you getting your information?
No, people get cheap PCs because companies enter into agreements to buy generic components in large quantities. Your standard Dell or HP motherboard will be no where near the quality of, say, an aftermarket $200 or $300 motherboard, but it's not intended to be: features like overclocking, high-quality capacitors, etc., are all geared for the enthusiast crowd.
Add in the fact that OEMs get their Windows licenses at vastly reduced rates, and ultimately you get a fairly inexpensive system. And the software bundles that OEMs include do bring in extra money for the OEM, but in reality this generally does not lower the cost of the systems any more - it's simply another cash-obtaining scheme that OEMs use to maximize what profit margin they can get on each system.
Uh, what? Your entry-level, basic, low-quality PC has been hovering around the $400-500 entry point for over a decade now, with no change in sight. Where exactly do you get any of this crap from? Troll much?
I understand what 'tying' is - what I was referring too was the fact that this is not applicable in Apples case and to say that it does is garbage. Wow...
Are non-apple memory sticks inside sufficient to claim someone a pirate according to EULA?
I missed the smiley, so I can only assume you aren't actually kidding.
Any company solely interested in short term profits will eventually fail. It may bring the whole economy down with it, but it will fail.
Guaranteed.
Which seems more and more to be the Apple of today, unfortunately. I.e. consider the rate at which they release new and unfulfilled hardware a la MacBooks/iMacs.
Apple hardware used to be dependable up until a few years ago. These days are more like the luck of the draw if you're not going to get a bad display, non-working SATA/ssds, nVidia *@£-up etc. etc.
And while these reports might not be many enough yet, the worrying part is they weren't part of the 'weekly news' a few years back (Apple did their thing properly then) and more enough, imo they seem to be accelerating.
I have plenty of examples of friends and customers alike who have no interest in upgrading because they think the new machines are a sad apparition of what they already have (and which were bought ~ 2 yrs ago).
And what does Apple do? They start removing features from their 'updated' products to be able to withstand the increased rate of releasing new hardware with at least, to them, a reasonable rate of price/failure.
Sure, they have record sales today but I for one would very much like to see them still being here in another few years and by then have them going back to release quality-oriented hardware. The whole popularity thing have gone to their heads. Apple today sees only $$$ and very little else, the rest is an illusion at best.
All we know is that Apple is (allegedly) disabling support for Atom processors in the next update. This may very well have nothing at all to do with hackintosh users (who will probably get around it anyway and can use other processors.)
Mac owners need not worry, obviously.
Mac owners need not worry, obviously.
Then give us an example of "long-term" profits. Because all I see is Apple thinking ahead, positioning themselves very well for the "long-term."
It seems that driving for the bottom (netbook craze), scrambling to sell on volume, is a fairly "short-term" strategy.
Apple has been profiting since 2006 especially. The move to Intel was certainly a "long-term" strategy.
Section 101 of the copyright law provides a definition of the word "copy" for the purpose of interpretation of copyright law. A "copy" is the physical object which contains a copyrighted work, and from which the work could be perceived, reproduced, or otherwise communicated. An exception for this definition is a phonorecord (ie. a physical object containing an audio recording, other than a sound track for a motion picture or other audiovisual work), which is not considered a copy but is treated seperately.
The physical object is the copy, so ownership of the object is identical to ownership of the copy.
Wherever the law lists exceptions to exclusive rights, conditional on the user owning a "copy" of a copyrighted work (such as section 117), by definition the law is granting the exception to the owner of the physical object on which the work was conveyed.
In the case of computer software, the DVD would constitute a "copy". So, if you have legal ownership of the DVD, then for the purposes of copyright law, you do own a copy of the software contained on the DVD. Mind you, you don't own the copyright to that software.
If Apple wants to prevent you from owning the copy of the software, then for the purposes of copyright law, their contention must be that you do not own the physical object on which the software was conveyed to you. I'd be very interested to see this point explicitly tested in court.
Now, even if it's possible that a Hackintosher might not be violating Apple's copyright, it's still entirely possible that, independent of copyright, they're violating a contract they entered into with Apple, namely, the EULA. And with violation of contract, comes the potential to pay damages.
Really, I know of 10 who have switched back, in my immediate peer circle.
Win 7 is much better and much cheaper.....
EULA or copy
I could understand the EULA if and only if I signed a license agreeing with the contract with Apple before handing over the money.
Not after the fact of purchasing when presented with the EULA and the fact is you cant disagree or receive any return of your money.
If your buying a "copy" its the same as buying any other software, your free to sell or use as you wish.
Apple doesnt have a leg to stand on!
But this would all be a mute point if only Apple would fill a huge gapping hole in their product line, offer a vanilla box computer thats matches a price point of other similar PC's. Their market share would more than triple. It would be a win-win situation for computer users.
I could understand the EULA if and only if I signed a license agreeing with the contract with Apple before handing over the money.
Not after the fact of purchasing when presented with the EULA and the fact is you cant disagree or receive any return of your money.
If your buying a "copy" its the same as buying any other software, your free to sell or use as you wish.
Apple doesnt have a leg to stand on!
But this would all be a mute point if only Apple would fill a huge gapping hole in their product line, offer a vanilla box computer thats matches a price point of other similar PC's. Their market share would more than triple. It would be a win-win situation for computer users.
BINGO....!!
if the purchase has the characteristics of a sale and you have to open the box to read the supposed licence terms then the licence isn't worth the paper it is written on.
And in April, when asked to produce receipts or proof of purchase of the copies during discovery, they couldn't provide any.
Why do you think they went with the bankruptcy a month later ?
1. The box containing MacOS X 10.6 has written on it "sale subject to acceptance of license". The sale isn't complete when you get the box, it is complete when you accept the license. Before that point there is no sale.
2. Most contracts work without any person signing anything. And it is quite normal that terms and conditions are available to you _after_ you hand over the money, as long as this happens _before_ the sale is final. In the case of Apple's licenses, they are all freely available, just type "Mac OS X license" into Google.
3. According to Apple's SLA, which is presented to you after handing over your money, but _before_ the sale is actually final, you _can_ disagree with the license and you _will_ get your money back. If you have actual evidence that says otherwise, feel free to post it here.
As I said, Apple writes on the package "Sale is subject to acceptance of the license". Because of that, the sequence "Apple displays MacOS X on their store shelf", "Customer grabs package", "Customer hands over money", "Customer leaves the store" has _not_ the "characteristics of a sale" at all. When you accepted the license (usually when you click "Accept" in the installer), that is when the contract between you and Apple becomes a contract, and that is when we can start discussing if it has the "characteristics of a sale" or not. And since you just accepted a license, your interpretation seems very weak.
This would be completely different if Apple claimed that the deal was final when you left the store with the goods and didn't offer a refund if you don't accept the license. If you tried to return a copy of MacOS X after not accepting the license and Apple actually refused a refund, that would be a problem for Apple.
With software, it makes very little difference whether you "own" the copy of the software on the DVD or not, because there is very little that you can do with software on a DVD without copying it. This is different from a book, which I can read without copying, or a CD, which I can play without copying. To do anything useful with the software on the DVD, you will usually make two copies (a copy to the hard drive first, then a copy to RAM), and you need a license for that.
Meaningless. And I know of 20 who are switching to OS X in my immediate peer circle.
"OS X is much better and much cheaper."
So what.
I can throw out anecdotal numbers too. The only thing that tells the tale are the REAL numbers in quarterly reports from both Apple and MS. The rest is anonymous fluff.