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This is not good news. Not that I care much, I don't have an Xserve. But it's still bad news and more proof that Apple doesn't care for the professional market much anymore.
 
Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.

James.
 
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sorry what was it that you were asking?

that is awesome. Can you imagine the heat these things generate?
 
This wins the craziest post of the year award. I love your comments about stock price. Lets see who is right in the end, an immature MacRumors message board poster, or a billionaire who created one of the most successful companies in history.

Congrats hes a billionaire who just screwed over huge enterprises that took a chance on Apple and are now freaking out because they have infrastructure that is DEAD.

Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.

James.

100%
 
No sane sysadmin would run mission critical services on Mac Mini or Mac Pro.

Just because you did not see xServes does not mean they are not used. I do have two loaded machines in my very own company.

Killing of xServe will be indeed the last nail into the coffin of OSX as a serious computing platform / eco system. Sure, I can use some brand of UNIX as server, in fact we run many of them as web / app servers but they would never integrate into the OSX as well and offer same level of functionality.

If OSX Server is to go then full host of other services is going down! Just to name a few:

* OpenDirectiry Server
* Mobile User Profiles
* AFP File Sharing with Spotlight
* iCal Server (Although there are alternative CalDAV servers)
* iCard Server
* iChat Server
* Update Server

Oh, and say Final Cut Server bye bye as well! Hmm, bad sign for Final Cut too....

Frankly, I would see little reason to stick to OSX if all that will happen. Back to Windows 7 or Linux then.

Unless, of course, Apple would release the OSX Server for other HW platforms such as HP Proliant boxes.

Then you're very specialized in your approach and solution. In the last year I have only seen one business with an Xserve. The majority of the time it's a Windows server or someone's computer running as a file share. I can say from my own census that the vast majority of small businesses do not and will not care that the Xserve is dead. For them a Mac mini or Mac Pro server is best.
 
anyone read the "Xserve transition guide" ?
It's a marketing triumph!

"...• The Mac Pro enclosure does not support rack mounting; however, two units can fit on a rack-mounted shelf in 12U of space..."

wow, thanks for the advice there Apple!
 
Pixar

I've heard that Pixar was the biggest customer for the Xserve for the past 5-7 years. Who knows, but maybe there was a part in the contract for the Disney/Pixar buyout that all the servers had to be purchased from Apple (boosting Apples sales) and that contract is probably over.

I was also wondering what Apple is going to do for servers in the new $1Billion 500,000 sq ft data center in North Carolina.

I'm not sure about accounting principles, but imagine if you had to report a sale (to yourself), of billions of dollars of servers. It would increase your own sales big time. So it would be "Apple iDatacenter" buying from "Apple Computer".

I'm sure it's not that simple. I know Apple uses the majority of their content delivery by means of Akamai and Limelight Networks. But something to think about.
 
AAPL will be bankrupt before the end of the decade.

Everybody put your hands together one more time for foidulus! He'll be here all week! Don't forget to tip your servers!

Apple could have every employee start shoveling the mountain of cash they're sitting on into a furnace as quickly as possible, and they still wouldn't be bankrupt by the end of the decade.
 
Beautiful, the servers are looks 10 times better then Dell or HP.

Isn't that XSan thing in the picture disconed already?

I wish someone would just continue to make the casing...

Who cares what it looks like?

I will rack an HP server before an XServe any day of the week.
 
So, apple is exiting Server market altogether. Combined with Java deprecation, this is one of the worst news for anyone running enterprise solution under Mac OS X.

Apple internally uses a lot of Java based solution, they must be moving to Linux(or other *nix flavor). So I guess no one is going to develop a viable JVM on server side now after this news.
 
Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.

James.

Well, gosh, I guess you'll just have to chill out and adapt to a change in technology.
 
So, apple is exiting Server market altogether. Combined with Java deprecation, this is one of the worst news for anyone running enterprise solution under Mac OS X.

Apple internally uses a lot of Java based solution, they must be moving to Linux(or other *nix flavor). So I guess no one is going to develop a viable JVM on server side now after this news.

We just got an email from our Final Cut people the head line says "WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!"

My response was, "I don't know..."

Well, gosh, I guess you'll just have to chill out and adapt to a change in technology.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Can all of the non technical fannys stay out of this. This is a big boys (girls) conversation.
 
to be honest, looks like Apple will extend the 'Exchange' functionality of iOS to the Desktop with Lion and support Microsoft technologies

Macs using group policies from Windows, all corporate accounts from AD, OS X Server will be canned and we all move forward...

shame, they had some really good ideas with PcP, Mobile Access, Xsan etc but it'll all be dumped and the engineers moved to integrating Lion with Windows 2008 Server et al.
 
Maybe a iOS based server appliance for core features (File Sharing, Directory Services, MCX) and the rest integrated in to standard OS X? Time Capsule Pro? I think there will some interesting news whatever happens. Apple's server market wasn't failing. There is obviously something grander in the works.
 
Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.

James.


I dont get it. I work for a fortune 500 were there are tons of users with MacBooks, iPhones, and iPads. We have not one OSX server. What does it matter?
 
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