Exactly, time for someone to crawl off into retirement and just fade away....
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sorry what was it that you were asking?
This wins the craziest post of the year award. I love your comments about stock price. Lets see who is right in the end, an immature MacRumors message board poster, or a billionaire who created one of the most successful companies in history.
Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.
James.
That makes no sense, if they updated Xserve now with the same CPU as in the Mac Pro, the xserve would be just as fast.We just called our Apple rep and this is what she said. Xserve is no longer need because the Mac Pro Servers are much faster than Xserves!
Well.... it shows that computers isn't Apple's priority.![]()
No sane sysadmin would run mission critical services on Mac Mini or Mac Pro.
Just because you did not see xServes does not mean they are not used. I do have two loaded machines in my very own company.
Killing of xServe will be indeed the last nail into the coffin of OSX as a serious computing platform / eco system. Sure, I can use some brand of UNIX as server, in fact we run many of them as web / app servers but they would never integrate into the OSX as well and offer same level of functionality.
If OSX Server is to go then full host of other services is going down! Just to name a few:
* OpenDirectiry Server
* Mobile User Profiles
* AFP File Sharing with Spotlight
* iCal Server (Although there are alternative CalDAV servers)
* iCard Server
* iChat Server
* Update Server
Oh, and say Final Cut Server bye bye as well! Hmm, bad sign for Final Cut too....
Frankly, I would see little reason to stick to OSX if all that will happen. Back to Windows 7 or Linux then.
Unless, of course, Apple would release the OSX Server for other HW platforms such as HP Proliant boxes.
Well.... it shows that computers isn't Apple's priority.![]()
that is awesome. Can you imagine the heat these things generate?
Did anyone actually buy these? I haven't heard of anyone using them.
AAPL will be bankrupt before the end of the decade.
Beautiful, the servers are looks 10 times better then Dell or HP.
Isn't that XSan thing in the picture disconed already?
I wish someone would just continue to make the casing...
Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.
James.
So, apple is exiting Server market altogether. Combined with Java deprecation, this is one of the worst news for anyone running enterprise solution under Mac OS X.
Apple internally uses a lot of Java based solution, they must be moving to Linux(or other *nix flavor). So I guess no one is going to develop a viable JVM on server side now after this news.
Well, gosh, I guess you'll just have to chill out and adapt to a change in technology.
We just got an email from our Final Cut people the head line says "WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO!"
My response was, "I don't know..."
Let's hope Apple license OS X Server for ESX/i.
I was just having that discussion. We have been moving to VMWare for a lot of our serving and its been amazing! Vsphere has made managing servers so much easier!
Clearly there are many end users on here with no idea where their content comes from or is hosted. Here is the bottom line of this for me. Without a real server I can not justify Apple servers and therefore not Apple services. Without the Apple services I can't support using Apple devices. Which ultimately means that 5,000 students and their teachers will not use Apple devices on a day-to-day basis. Why would we go to the iPad for text books when I can not manage their content from an Apple solution? At the same time Dell has real servers and is developing an integrated server to device solution that will be cheaper than the iPad. While I only have two Xserves, not having them means not supporting Apple devices period. We had just replaced an Xserve with another Xserve as our mail server, Had i known this was coming I would have replaced it with a Dell or HP, and I also would not have bought my own MacBook Pro or the case of iPhone 4's we just bought. Without a viable server platform Apple becomes just a company selling toys.
James.