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Why is this listed as an "update" to the product in the Buyer's Guide when they just dropped the price of the existing models? If anything, this is a sign they are trying to clear out the old inventory for new models soon.

So it should be "Buy only if you're poor, new models soon."

Exactly. This is false information!
 
Although now working in a different field, I spent 10 years in print design/production and I concur whole-heartedly. One of the best things about Apple kit is that stuff like colour matching does work pretty much out of the box - in my experience every single time - and that benefit has a significant cash value.

It's very difficult to explain this to people who aren't familiar with the intricacies of print production - I had a similar argument elsewhere a few months ago and it was suggested to me that if I was having trouble getting true colour values on the monitor, I should assign hex values to them.

Sigh ...

The only time I ever had trouble with variance between display and printed colour was using a third party monitor. It may have cost a couple of hundred quid less to buy, but the entire print run that had to be re-done cost rather more than that ...

Cheers!

Jim

I agree. Lord, what fools most of these mortals be. :D
 
Now if I were in the states, and had $900 dollars to place on a screen, I'd save for a small $99 and get a massive 37" 1080p Westy with a multitude of inputs including HDMI. That's $99 for 13" extra display space, and HDMI, good design and reputation!

Apple - you're a rip off.:(

That is a good plan except for the fact that *TV's* marketed for HDTV max out at 1920x1080 resolution and are designed to be operated in the NTSC color space.

The 30" displays from Apple and Dell are 2560x1600. It is basically like having two 1280x1024 screens with some extra vertical space.

Anybody who seriously chooses a Plasma or HDTV LCD TV or a DLP or whatever for a computer monitor needs to have their head examined. Now as a second monitor with perhaps a Black Magic HDMI output card would rock (well for video guys at least).

-mark
 
It's obvious that some readers do not appreciate the difference in quality between the Apple Cinema Display and the Dell what's-its-face, but that's ok. Some folks think Chevys are "just as good" as BMW's because they're the same size and have just as much horsepower. They might even think Chevys are better than BMW's because they cost less money! Anyone who thinks buying a color monitor is like buying a sack of potatoes should by all means buy a Dell. You'll love it! :cool:

Good comparison. I recently test-drove a new Impala and was not impressed, felt like I was driving a granny car. My Acura TL is better looking and has just as much pep. What was I thinking?! If I had the bucks, I'd certainly buy a new Acura or better yet, a new BMW.

Apple displays all the way. I've seen a Dell side by side with an ACD. No comparison, especially for photo work.
 
Yes, it is.

No it isn't, since you can't even see the port. What you CAN see is the cable going to the port, but if that cable annoys you, then you have a REALLY simple solution to the problem: Don't use the extra port.

One of the great features of Apple Cinema Displays is that it takes every input via single cord. That's huge!

It's huge if you only have a one computer. If you have more than one, you are pretty much screwed. You COULD have it both ways. Have the current setup with the cable, and in addition have a vacant DVI-port on the monitor. If the extra port is not needed, no problem. It would not cause any extra clutter. But if someone needs that extra port, it would be there. Right now people who need more than one port need to look elsewhere for their monitors.
 
Anybody who seriously chooses a Plasma or HDTV LCD TV or a DLP or whatever for a computer monitor needs to have their head examined.

Ahem. Unless you're mainly using it to display TV, presumably? The £500 I shelled out for a 27" LCD TV compares quite favourably with a similarly sized monitor and I would consider a monitor overkill for a computer used primarily for TV and DVD playback ...

Cheers!

Jim
 
Yeah, this shouldn't say product just updated. It should probably say something like "Product price just lowered - could be indication of Apple clearing out stock to prepare for new models" or something.

They didn't update anyhing but the price.

The price drop is as good as an update with Apple's displays.

Apple never drops prices to "clear inventory" for new models. If you are looking for a new display from apple. This is probably the best time to buy for the next few months.

arn
 
The price drop is as good as an update with Apple's displays.

Apple never drops prices to "clear inventory" for new models. If you are looking for a new display from apple. This is probably the best time to buy for the next few months.

arn

while i'm sure there's a far more recent example, I had my first taste of Apple buyer-remorse when the Rev A G4 Powerbooks had a price drop in September 2001, and then in October the Rev B's came out...
 
while i'm sure there's a far more recent example, I had my first taste of Apple buyer-remorse when the Rev A G4 Powerbooks had a price drop in September 2001, and then in October the Rev B's came out...

Remember, there's always worse. I remember getting a 60 GB ipod right before the 80g ones came out. But that's life.
 
The colorsync profiles, the lack of display controls (acutally a POSITIVE for Color Management) and the more finely tuned LUT's make the ACD a BETTER buy than the dells for Print Production Graphics work -- FOR SURE.

I have both here in our studio.



It is reasonable given the specs: IPS Panel, Colorsync SWOP Certification, Better LUT's than a Dell, and LACK of DISPLAY CONTROLS, which is actually a positive for color management.



For the high end Print Production Work I do, I would NEVER consider the Dell.

Ever.



It is not nearly as good of a monitor for Graphics and Print Production where SWOP color match is important. I would be in court with that Dell -- that's insane!

Gladly pay the extra $300 bucks.

What percentage of mac users work Professionaly in "Print Production Graphics workers"? Maybe 1%. Apple is just asking for the other 99% to go with Dell. I got a 24" Dell for $630 and it is BEAUTIFULL!
 
What's really around the corner

This is probably the best time to buy for the next few months.

I would certainly agree with you that nothing is going to come out before the release of Leopard. However, NAB may trump that.

anyone think the reason these are being discounted is due to the fact that leopard may come out with touch-screen capabilities ?

Its in this area that I think the real display upgrade is going to happen. However, I'm now thinking that if some type of display like this does come out during the WWDC that it will cost over $5000:eek:

So, if you want a good display now is the time...

The irony for me is that I was waiting for a display upgrade since August. I should have just purchased it then...
 
Ahem. Unless you're mainly using it to display TV, presumably? The £500 I shelled out for a 27" LCD TV compares quite favourably with a similarly sized monitor and I would consider a monitor overkill for a computer used primarily for TV and DVD playback ...

Cheers!

Jim

Ok, I'll agree to that point. But then again, I would not use a computer to play back TV or DVD unless I was in a bind, ie I missed 24 or something, in which case I buy it and then watch it on my computer.

That said, I would never buy a computer display for a home entertainment center. And closest thing I'll ever have to a real computer in my entertainment center is a Apple TV, but I am still not sold on the idea unless movies start being offered in 720p. I have an Airport Express, for streaming music to my entertainment center, but that is a bit different in my opinion.

-mark
 
seems like something else is going on here. When have apple ever discounted a whole line worldwide???

And more to the point, they have really significantly reduced them in UK to balance how weak the dollar is at the moment. Seems to me like that want to shift whatever inventory that have of them. Perhaps new displays at WWDC?

Perhaps someone can tell me how soon they start offering rebates and free ipods and things before a product gets updated? i think here they are just offering a discount to get the few people 'on the fence' to buy, then update in June. Multitouch 'secret features' anyone?

M
 
Oh and another thing...

I really want an apple display to hook up with my PS3, but the brightness and the response time is pitiful. 13ms? Most screens out there nowadays have 8ms or even 5ms, and they are dirt cheap. Granted they are lcd tvs, but surely the tech is the same. i hate being able to see the lag, which you can if you use the right vids/interface.
 
Well, here in Utrecht (the Netherlands) the price of the 23" dropped from 1199 euros to 899 so I ran and bought one. 899 is roughly the same as screens of the same size and the quality of the cinema display is fantastic.

Jan
 
What percentage of mac users work Professionaly in "Print Production Graphics workers"? Maybe 1%.

"work Professionaly in 'Print Production Graphics workers'" I am not trying to be in Grammar Police, but this really gives me a chuckle. :p

I don't have a number to back this up, but I can guarantee you that "Mac users who work in Graphics and Print Production" are bigger than 1%.
 
What percentage of mac users work Professionaly in "Print Production Graphics workers"? Maybe 1%. Apple is just asking for the other 99% to go with Dell. I got a 24" Dell for $630 and it is BEAUTIFULL!

Um... print production is, like, Apple's bread and butter. :rolleyes:
 
No it isn't, since you can't even see the port. What you CAN see is the cable going to the port, but if that cable annoys you, then you have a REALLY simple solution to the problem: Don't use the extra port.



It's huge if you only have a one computer. If you have more than one, you are pretty much screwed. You COULD have it both ways. Have the current setup with the cable, and in addition have a vacant DVI-port on the monitor. If the extra port is not needed, no problem. It would not cause any extra clutter. But if someone needs that extra port, it would be there. Right now people who need more than one port need to look elsewhere for their monitors.

The answer is simple: KVM Switch -- you can put as many monitors on your ACD as needed - I have an 8-port KVM switch -- you can even buy KVM's with built in signal converters -- they cost a bit but deliver anything you basically need.
 
Really New Displays?

I noticed the display drop at the Apple Store before it made forums, which actually surprised me a bit, given all the "new display" talk that's been bantering about lately. Obviously, it's a good move to reduce inventory before the lineup is refreshed. Combine this with the fact that the external iSight camera inexplicably vanished from store shelves late last year (and is now commanding obscene prices on eBay) and it would appear that a screen shakeup is definately in order. It strikes me as curious, however, that Apple would have waited so long to add the iSight feature to it's cinema displays when the technology has been available to them for so long. I'd suggest that perhaps Cupertino has something more dramatic up it's sleeve. I'll point to the MacRumors article on the "Integrated Sensing Display" patent, which created a small splash last January, but then went quiet among the multi-touch and iPhone rumours. I'm going to extrapolate that if the the next gen displays don't "WOW", then it's only a matter of time before Integrated Sensing technology becomes the next big thing. In point of fact, if Apple & Co. had their druthers, I'm sure they'd choose to reveal a display that actually sees you, rather than one with a black dot strapped to it's face. (That is so last fall.) After all, what could be more Jobs-esque than revealing the world's first "seeing" display years before the technology goes mainstream. That would also force Dell to create a cheap knockoff version, and Microsoft to relase Windows Vista Multi-Interactive RealTime Media Chat Center Editon, that would cost an additional $500 and still need 80 different plug-ins to work correctly.
 
Interesting, I am deciding on the 30" or 23" (or going with somthing else entirely, but i'll probably end up with an ACD) and I was walking with my fiancee to work to pick up her paycheck today and we passed an apple authorized retailer here in Richmond VA. I told her we should stop in so I could show her the size of the 30" and how it would affect our desk area, etc.

They didn't have one, and when I asked the woman about it, she very matter-of-factly said that they would not have one until the new updates came out. I asked her about the updates, and she said that if I wanted to save $100, buy one now, but if I wanted one with built in iSight, wait until April 16th.....:eek:


I didn't think these people were granted inside info like that, and if they are, there is a NDA involved. So, either she has been on MacRumors too much, or she actually knows something we don't!
 
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