I cannot feel sorry for people who flash their phones in the middle of a movie or are not engaged in a meeting. It is rude behaviour. If face id improves manners and social etiquette, that is a plus in my books.
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Apple Dismisses Rumors of Ever Putting Touch ID on Back, Side, or Under Display of iPhone X
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The fact that they don't want it to look like there is an alternative that people could have been happier with? That much seems obvious. This may be the future, but it wasn't necessarily the immediate future, until it needed to be (they didn't have the tech for under-display finger print reading).
Even if one believes his bluff, you can't just ignore the fact that there was 6-8 months of supply chain reporting on the under-display finger print reader. They were making it, and yields were low. That wasn't just a dream.
Not sure about AR but animated smileys sure are important. Face id is nothing more than a gimmick and utter waste of time, money and space. Touch id will be back in next iphone refresh.
At the time of the OS X transition the Mac base was pretty small and hard core. They (we) did not want to switch to Windows and were prepared for a tough hike if Apple got us to a better place. I don't remember hearing a lot of complaints, though not none. Now, I remember when they dropped the floppy drive, the howling was pretty loud. Lots of how dare they. You're right though, the much larger market for Apple products creates more intransigence today, but the other big factor is Apple no longer has Steve Jobs to persuade them that they are being led into the promised land.
Good choice of example. As everyone here probably knows, Apple is historically notorious for the levels of secrecy that surround their products. Car companies are precisely the opposite: they very publicly demo their "ideas" in front of the whole world on a very regular basis. There are no real secrets in the automotive industries.
Apple doesn't think that way... they think different. (ba-dum-tiss.)
Or how much cheaper would it be to keep touch id and not use face Id? I didn't see many complaints about touch id. So why add face id, remove touch, and increase the price?
I sure hope you are correct. I withhold final judgement until there are millions of Xs in use and real people are using FaceID, but I just don't think it will work as well overall. There are a few scenerios where it will be superior to TouchID (damaged / dirty fingers, wet fingers, etc) just as there are certain times when TouchID is no doubt better. But overall, I think people will discover FaceID is inferior. I hope I am wrong and FaceID is the bee's knees because there is no way Apple will go back to it. Even if it is better.
How do you even know? Do you belive every apple rumor out there? This apple guy just debunked one of the “rumors” most experts reported. Sad to see Fake news seep itsway into apples realm all for clicks
Actually, it’s more like:
“We figured that since there’s going to be a notch anyways due to the front facing camera, speaker, and other sensors, we might as well take advantage of that and put in a better and more secure system that also might have some added fun features people might like”
Seriously, where did you think all the others things were going even if they got a under display touchID?
except you couldn’t feel it with your finger and would instead have to look for the virtual button.
probably better to keep touchID on a feelable button imo
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OT but i think New Coke always won in blind taste tests.After Apple rolls out some future iPhone which they decide should be made out of used razor blades...
"We decided early on that regularly turning over human blood supplies is much healthier than reusing the same old blood. So we never considered any option other than using razor blades. Not only does every use of the iPhone help each user produce a brand new volume of blood, but it is also a perfect way to recycle old, used razor blades instead of them ending up in landfills. Fresher blood supplies and saving the earth is always in our thinking."
In short, whatever ANY company is selling now always has some great spin to try to make it seem as perfect for it's prospective buyers as it can be. Remember this...
Coca-cola believed in that change for it's customers so much they promoted it as "so much better" in a massive campaign to sell the change to a best-selling formula that had sold very well from the beginning. The corporate marketing always thoroughly believes (and thus spins) whatever the corporation has decided to sell. If customers refuse to buy in sufficient numbers, the corporation learns it's lesson, maybe switches back and then the corporation marketing switches back too.
Do a search for retro cigarette advertising to find pitches like XX,XXX physicians endorse smoking...
...or even babies pitching cigs...
Watch lawyer commercials now for pharmaceuticals lawsuits. Then hop back in time 5-10-15 years and watch commercials selling those very same pharmaceuticals. Or watch new pharma ads now, knowing that in 5-10-15 years, some of them will have lawyer ads suing the pharma company for those very same drugs.
Stuff like Asbestos was once aggressively marketed as a magical, miracle product. At the extremes, consider this example...
Note that I'm certainly not equating Face ID to New Coke or cigarettes or Asbestos... just that the role of marketing is to put a positive spin on ANYTHING a company decides to push now.
Recall how Apple marketing would ridicule bigger-screen phones BEFORE Apple rolled out bigger-screen iPhones. What changed there?
Touch ID was THE main reason to upgrade to a prior generation iPhone... but no longer important since this model opted to leave it out.
Just normal corporate marketing messaging. Don't you "feel over-smoked" by refusing to buy what is for sale now. Just buy it. Us corporate strangers that have never met you know what is best for you. Resistance is futile.
i also think Coke today is yesterday’s New Coke..
they just didn’t change the labeling this time
(second guess is less likely than the first
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First Apple pulled the plug on my headphone jack and now this. I am not ready to carry around a pigtail for my headphones and I love Touch ID. I guess I will hold on to my 6s for as long as I can staying on iOS 10.3.3 so as to not suffer slow downs and hope Apple continues to sell a low end model with the tech I want.
While many are happy with Apple's moves, I am not one of them.
While many are happy with Apple's moves, I am not one of them.
First Apple pulled the plug on my headphone jack and now this. I am not ready to carry around a pigtail for my headphones and I love Touch ID. I guess I will hold on to my 6s for as long as I can staying on iOS 10.3.3 so as to not suffer slow downs and hope Apple continues to sell a low end model with the tech I want.
While many are happy with Apple's moves, I am not one of them.
Me either... which is why I went from a 6s+ to a Note 8.
You're still not getting it.
You do not understand the potential of AR, and how a 3D depth-sensing camera, which will soon be on the back side, plays into Apple's long-term AR objectives.
That's apparent from your animated smiley comment. And that's ok. Some are not able to look ahead and imagine the possibilities.
Fortunately Apple does. Just takes a bit of imagination and curiosity to understand the true potential.
Rarely does Apple comment on rumors. In this case they did. It looks like they feel vulnerable about the Face ID. They are trying to convey a message that Face ID is so good that they never considered any alternatives. We'll see. If it is that good no alternative may be needed. But if it is not, then perhaps they will be sorry that they did not consider the alternatives when they had time for that.
So glad to read this, as if it wasn't obvious. Maybe it will finally shut up all the 'Apple rushed getting the phone out, because there is no Touch ID' rhetoric.
Well duh. Why would they openly admit how badly they failed at retaining Touch ID? What were we expecting them to say? “We really wanted to keep the fingerprint sensor but when we realized we couldn’t do it, we instead went with a new technology that we had no idea if it would work well and held our breath.”
Actually reviewers have said you need to really stare at the iPhone to unlock it, this can be turned off though so it widens the field of view and reduces the security as you don’t need to stare at it to unlock it. So if people get fed up staring at their phones to unlock them and change the settings, then your mates would have a field day...
Guess face id is not the problem, but the kind of friends you have.
What possibilities exactly? Apple of today is combination of hubris and teen appeal. On the other hand, they can now track your facial expressions while you're looking at ads. How cool is that?
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Sure can. S8 has vibration engine under the screen.