Apple Donating $1 Million to American Red Cross as Hurricane Florence Makes Landfall in North Carolina

[iapplelove]

Yeah, all TWO of the six comments before mine had a similar tone. Must be a conspiracy.

Or, we are used to people trashing Apple for not donating more. It's almost like we are used to hearing the same comments complaining about how a rich company doesn't donate more. There's always the inevitable. "if I made $50,000/year, that's like me donating 10¢" or whatever the math works out to be. I'm sure there are several posts in this thread doing exactly that.

My point exactly and you didn’t even know you were making it for me lol thanks !
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Apple. The only company to donate a bunch of money and get crap for it because it’s not “more”. People are weird.

A million dollars is a bunch of money ? To a company that has all the money in the world.

Yeah people are really weird all right lol

 

[I7guy]

My point exactly and you didn’t even know you were making it for me lol thanks !
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A million dollars is a bunch of money ? To a company that has all the money in the world.

Yeah people are really weird all right lol

I don't see anybody on these forums matching Apples donation. My apologies if I missed the post where this occurred.

Yeah people are really weird for the double standards Apple is held to.

 

[Bacillus]

I don't see anybody on these forums matching Apples donation. My apologies if I missed the post where this occurred.

Yeah people are really weird for the double standards Apple is held to.

Please consider it may take most people a few weeks to recover from their generosity

 

[santaliqueur]

My point exactly and you didn’t even know you were making it for me lol thanks !l

It's funny you think you were being so clever that I "made your point for you" without me knowing. When in reality, I predicted what people like you would say before you posted. But facts? Who cares about those silly things.

Apple donated $1 million more than any of us, and $1 million more than they had to. I have never heard someone successful use the logic "they could afford more". It's always someone salty about their own lack of success, so they rationalize why rich people and companies obtained that wealth unfairly. It helps them feel better about themselves.

 

[Anarchy99]

so as of Q1 just cash in the bank not overall assets they had 285.1 billion in the bank and gave 0.000350754121361% of there cash to help...
that why people complain
its kind of insulting like tipping a penny.
either dont donate or donate enough that it shows you care.

this is just a publicity stunt with the added bonus of being tax deductable
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Apple donated $1 million more than any of us, and $1 million more than they had to. I have never heard someone successful use the logic "they could afford more". It's always someone salty about their own lack of success, so they rationalize why rich people and companies obtained that wealth unfairly. It helps them feel better about themselves.

if people donate a penny they donated a manitude more percentage-wise than apple just did.
thats the point people are making.

frankly i dont what Apple or any other company to donate or have stances politically or socially etc.

they are machine for pumping out the goods we pay them for nothing more nothing less.
every dollar they spend on a cause makes me wonder could my iPhone had been cheaper or had a new feature etc.

I know people would say thats a shallow opinion but basically it shows disrespect to your customerbase when you do this.
we pay you for a product and we deal with markups because we want you to expand the busines and keep making products.
so in effect they're "stealing" more money from their customers and then breaking the social contract by
misappropriating the funds.

 

[I7guy]

Please consider it may take most people a few weeks to recover from their generosity

I was referring to that I may have missed some of the posters generosities.

 

[iapplelove]

It's funny you think you were being so clever that I "made your point for you" without me knowing. When in reality, I predicted what people like you would say before you posted. But facts? Who cares about those silly things.

Apple donated $1 million more than any of us, and $1 million more than they had to. I have never heard someone successful use the logic "they could afford more". It's always someone salty about their own lack of success, so they rationalize why rich people and companies obtained that wealth unfairly. It helps them feel better about themselves.

I think you should re read my original post. You didn’t predict a thing sir.

Not salty in the least, in fact I donate more than Apple based on finances.

Also never said they could afford more. I said it’s funny how most of the posts here are similar.

 

[chukronos]

so as of Q1 just cash in the bank not overall assets they had 285.1 billion in the bank and gave 0.000350754121361%

I'm pretty sure most people donate more then .0004% of their savings.

edit: Reading is fundamental. I failed to pay attention to the “%” on both above posts. Both posts are correct.
Original post:
I think you both are missing a couple of zeros.
1,000,000 / 250,000,000,000 = 0.000004 (which is 0.0004%)

Which would be the equivalent of someone with a $150,000 a year job donating 60 cents.

But, don't let the numbers distract from the fact that $1 million is a significant donation. And, it seems to be $1 million more than other companies are donating right now. if other large corps followed suite, Red Cross would have a very large sum of money for assistance. How many other companies have donated, so far? I am genuinely interested.

edit: looks like FB is matching up to $1 million in donations.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Still, I have more compassion with that old lady that spends $2 of her pension.

Because it is comparatively 100 times more than that 0.00001% or whatever that Cook got from his customers (grabbing their headphone jacks...)

True, but the point stands. Even though Apple has less generosity, the resulting amount is still vastly more useful than your $2 (Not that we shouldn’t donate what we can, but still).

 

[I7guy]

Still, I have more compassion with that old lady that spends $2 of her pension.
Because it is comparatively 100 times more than that 0.00001% or whatever that Cook got from his customers (grabbing their headphone jacks...)

Apple is under no obligation to donate even $1. They get crap no matter what they do. Some posters have acknowledged that $1M is a large, useful amount of money. That’s where it should end. Not that Apple donated .000000001% of their net worth.

 

[tCdemon]

The Red Cross is a joke...there's a company that needs to shut down.

 

[DoctorTech]

There are (at least) two schools of thought on giving. The Christian faith teaches "don't let the left hand know what the right hand is doing" which means give privately and don't advertise it to take credit for it. The second school of thought is that by announcing a donation you are setting a public example and you might encourage others to do the same.

Was Apple "virtue signaling" or were they trying to inspire others to follow their example and give something? Only they know their motive but regardless of why they gave, I am sure the money will be put to good use and help people in need.

 

[drewsof07]

The Red Cross is a joke...there's a company that needs to shut down.

And boy do they have some skeletons: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/may/25/nazis-escaped-on-red-cross-documents

 

[shareef777]

I think you both are missing a couple of zeros.
1,000,000 / 250,000,000,000 = 0.000004

Which would be the equivalent of someone with a $150,000 a year job donating 60 cents.

But, don't let the numbers distract from the fact that $1 million is a significant donation. And, it seems to be $1 million more than other companies are donating right now. if other large corps followed suite, Red Cross would have a very large sum of money for assistance. How many other companies have donated, so far? I am genuinely interested.

edit: looks like FB is matching up to $1 million in donations.

Math is fundamental. It’s .0004%, note the percent symbol. Ie, .0004% of 250,000,000,000 is 1million.

What you don’t see is other companies flaunting the change (relatively speaking) they’re donating, and the mindless followers bragging about said change.

 

[Anarchy99]

I think you both are missing a couple of zeros.
1,000,000 / 250,000,000,000 = 0.000004

Which would be the equivalent of someone with a $150,000 a year job donating 60 cents.

But, don't let the numbers distract from the fact that $1 million is a significant donation. And, it seems to be $1 million more than other companies are donating right now. if other large corps followed suite, Red Cross would have a very large sum of money for assistance. How many other companies have donated, so far? I am genuinely interested.

edit: looks like FB is matching up to $1 million in donations.

I probably fat fingered calculator :S

But also $150k a year income is well off for both Canada and the USA
I’m out of the house atm so I can’t be bothered to research Minimum wage and average incomes but it’s significantly less than that like 30$ per hour is 55-60K

It is a large sum of money it’s true and you’re correct if every company gave small sum of money to one particular cause, company, person, etc of course it would Be a large sum of money. But I still don’t see it as their place

 

[blacksurfer]

I always wondered how much the Red Cross have in their banks? I mean we donated millions to Haiti relief and most weren't spent. So let's say they have 50 million in their bank, and Apple donated 1 million, now they have 51 million to help. At what point do they say we have enough money to cover expenses and as soon as we need more we'll ask?

 

[chukronos]

I probably fat fingered calculator :S

But also $150k a year income is well off for both Canada and the USA
I’m out of the house atm so I can’t be bothered to research Minimum wage and average incomes but it’s significantly less than that like 30$ per hour is 55-60K

It is a large sum of money it’s true and you’re correct if every company gave small sum of money to one particular cause, company, person, etc of course it would Be a large sum of money. But I still don’t see it as their place

no, you were correct. I looked at the number and didn’t pay attn to the %. Embarrassing!

 

[macpeach55]

That's like someone donating a penny. Why bother?

It is STILL a Million. Not a penny. Relativity doesn't count. And, by the way, how much did YOU Donate?

 

[Bacillus]

Apple is under no obligation to donate even $1. They get crap no matter what they do. Some posters have acknowledged that $1M is a large, useful amount of money. That’s where it should end. Not that Apple donated .000000001% of their net worth.

I don't think you ever worked at or participated in a multi-billion dollar industry.
Hundreds of millions are spent on PR, huge departments/agencies are carefully crafting the CEO's public image (in the case of Cook the humble, charitable man) to convey or moderate the daily truth: their ruthless business practices, where they control complete industry segments and bind countries and even continents to their willing.
Sorry to disturb any form of rooky/innocent/juvenile romanticism: FADANG industries are the worst and Apple is the biggest of them.
The idea is to keep the guy in the street away of from that hard reality. So yes, to that guy 1 million is a great number. That's exactly why PR departments and agencies (consuming a multitude of that by the day themselves) engineer that number as a banner in a news item. And they know all rumor/news sites will frantically copy it - as they actually run them, or at least their news hunger.
Now if you'd ever start to develop your own, souvereign notion of proportionalism (which, from your contributions on this forum, seems doubtful to happen anytime soon) you'd start to realize how small that is in the myriad of big events of the billions and how completely spinned, controlled, wicked it is - far from anything spontaneous or sincere that we, ordinary people in the street, would call a donation.
Now you may keep replying "but still 1 million is a big contribution that no one in this forum ever matches" etc. which may be the case from your perspective, and then I'd say: Welcome in the wicked world of business. You're still an outsider...the little guy in the street that swallows every bit of engineered PR that the big industries want you to swallow. They want you to see that 1 million from the Joe Sixpack-perspective. And you're the best breed of juveniles dancing for them - a free missonary proclaiming their spin on charity - without even realizing it yourself

 

[I7guy]

I don't think you ever worked at or participated in a multi-billion dollar industry.

And I'm pretty sure you haven't worked at apple. But it's great you can devine my path through life, I have to say I'm impressed at how much nonsense is sprouted in one post.

Hundreds of millions are spent on PR, huge departments/agencies are carefully crafting the CEO's public image (in the case of Cook the humble, charitable man) to convey or moderate the daily truth: their ruthless business practices, where they control complete industry segments and bind countries and even continents to their willing.
Sorry to disturb any form of rooky/innocent/juvenile romanticism: FADAN industries are the worst and Apple is the biggest of them.
The idea is to keep the guy in the street away of from that hard reality. So yes, to that guy 1 million is a great number. That's exactly why PR departments and agencies (consuming a multitude of that by the day themselves) engineer that number as a banner in a news item. And they know all rumor/news sites will frantically copy it - as they actually run them, or at least their news hunger.
Now if you'd ever start to develop your own, souvereign notion of proportionalism (which, from your contributions on this forum, seems doubtful to happen anytime soon) you'd start to realize how small that is in the myriad of big events of the billions and how completely spinned, controlled, wicked it is - far from anything spontaneous or sincere that we, ordinary people in the street, would call a donation.
Now you may keep replying "but still 1 million is a big contribution that no one in this forum ever matches" etc. which may be the case from your perspective, and then I'd say: Welcome in the wicked world of business. You're still an outsider...the little guy in the street that swallows every bit of engineered PR that the big industries want you to swallow. They want you to see that 1 million from the Joe Sixpack-perspective. And you're the best breed of juveniles dancing for them - a free missonary proclaiming their spin on charity - without even realizing it yourself

This is basically the glass half empty type of response. If you believe this is rooky romanticism, than what you wrote straight out of a conspiracy theorists blog post.

Now when you donate or even claim to donate 1 cent you will get the props that you deserve. In the meantime, apple donated $1M, they deserve the credit for donating $1M. And the press for the donation hopefully spurring other companies to do the same. Apple is not responsible for the ills of the world, nor are they responsible for curing the ills of the world. But what they do moves the needle in the right direction. And Tim Cook gets props for that.

Your cynicism aside.

 

[brenton289]

Hurricane victims will be lucky to see 95% of donations to the Red Cross.

Apple didn't donate it for the people, they donated it for the publicity. It probably came out of their marketing budget.
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It is STILL a Million. Not a penny. Relativity doesn't count. And, by the way, how much did YOU Donate?

Probably more than you.

 

[corebeliefs]

Estimated property damage: 14 billion.

Estimated Apple donation: $890,000 (after Red Cross operating expenses).

Estimated time we've talked about Apple over this small corporate donation: priceless.

 

[pjamieson]

Wow, Apple gave 0.1% of its Trillion$ fortune to the Red Cross ... Good on ya!
You know a company is super greedy when they only do it for the PR ..

 

[ann713]

These "why bother" comments. Anything is better than nothing, they're not obligated to donate either.

 

[FleetAdmiral121]

Here come the complaints we always see about how a trillion dollar company could do more. Before complaining, please let us know how much you contributed and how much your company contributed.

it's not about the dollar amount, it the percentage

i donated $100 - with my net worth being very low at $53000, so doing the math, I donated 0.188679245283% of my net worth.

Apple net worth: Apple is an American multinational technology company that has a net worth of $900 billion, as of 2017. (https://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-businessmen/companies/apple-net-worth/)

so $1 million dollars is 0.000111111111111% think that it is a lot now?