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We all would like to think that Apple maintains a strong moral compass, but I fail to see what this expensive ballroom has to do with them other than to bribe the president of the US for favours.

It feels disappointing, but I guess these are the times we live in. :(
 
I think I missed it…which posts said "I'm gonna be done with Apple I've had it with them and Tim Cook for supporting a US President!"?
A few on page 2-3 and throughout other threads on MR forums when Tim Cook/Apple Inc. does anything with the current White House Administration. Exact word for word, I don't think you'll find, but thats the gist of it.
 
Has he done anything good?
yes.
trump has made real what was before only a vague understanding of how dictators take power and right wing nationalism chokes out people's voices.
it has been a learning experience for us, to see how the levers of control come not only in fits, but also as a steady drip of actions.
he has done a good job of turning what was just textbook learning into a real experience for us.
he's done this very well. all too well.
his first term was a joke. his second term has made him into a consequential president. along the same lines as Andrew Johnson, and Harding.
trumps not smart enough to have earned this title by himself. his inner most circle has figured out that they just need to distract trump and keep him busy with more ways of graft, and then trump just parrots what that circle of true evil-doers are formulating.
 
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Yes. Sometimes he seemingly disappears for a few days at a time and he stops destroying our country for a little while.
I understand that you dislike him as President. I've never felt that way about any sitting president, even ones that I didn't agree with or like things that they did, I was always able to find something good they did throughout their presidency. I guess you aren't capable or willing to try that.
 
I understand that you dislike him as President. I've never felt that way about any sitting president, even ones that I didn't agree with or like things that they did, I was always able to find something good they did throughout their presidency. I guess you aren't capable or willing to try that.
If you can't understand why Trump is different than every other president that came before him, there's no reason to continue this conversation.
 
yes.
trump has made real what was before only a vague understanding of how dictators take power and right wing nationalism chokes out people's voices.
it has been a learning experience for us, to see how the levers of control come not only in fits, but as well as just a steady drip of actions.
he has done a good job of was just textbook learning into a real experience.
he's done this very well. all too well.
Unfortunately the lesson does not seems to have been learned by the ones who needed the lesson
 
It's been a request since Benjamin Harrison in 1892ish - and with the advent of modern air travel, the WH has been badly equipped for large state events. They do their best to decorate the pavilion tents but it's a bit...yeah. Long overdue.

Also worth remembering *many* of the changes to the White House over the years have been controversial. Hardly anyone brings up Truman ruining the design with the second floor balcony anymore but it caused a huge stir when it was first announced.
Shhhh you’re going to ruin the TDS of this thread by stating simple facts. Just yell ‘orange man bad’ like everyone else.
 
I understand that you dislike him as President. I've never felt that way about any sitting president, even ones that I didn't agree with or like things that they did, I was always able to find something good they did throughout their presidency. I guess you aren't capable or willing to try that.
Name one redeeming factor in favor of him. A single one.
 
“Have some decorum and look for the good he has done” when the guy just days ago posted an AI video of himself, wearing a crown, flying a fighter plane, and dumping diarrhea on the American people in response to the No Kings protests.

Do people really not see how this is different than making fun of a guy who misspelled “potato” or yelled in a weird way during a rally? Decorum fell out of his hands when he was using them to make fun of a disabled person.
 
No I mean like excessive welfare spending, Social Security benefits for people that are already dead, and stupid stuff like NASA grants.

Interesting post as the GOP right now is trying to scare people into blaming Democrats for the government shutdown by saying that on Nov 1 they won’t get their SNAP benefits. Seems that republicans are fans of that welfare spending when it’s convenient.
 
A few on page 2-3 and throughout other threads on MR forums when Tim Cook/Apple Inc. does anything with the current White House Administration. Exact word for word, I don't think you'll find, but thats the gist of it.

I re-read page 2 and 3. The closest I could find was “question my loyalty to Apple.”

The next closest I could find was a “in 30 years I'm ashamed of Apple.”

Neither of those strike me as an intention to stop buying Apple products though…and those are the only two posts I could find that remotely suggest what you indicated.
 
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Name one redeeming factor in favor of him. A single one.
Sure: In one industry I used to work in for 25 years (construction), many of federally funded public projects were using imported materials and supplies from other countries. Those suppliers constantly created artificial price hikes and exaggerated shipping costs from overseas which would take every public job over budget. I've seen construction projects start at $30 million and end up costing $50 million, going over $20 million in budget using public funds because of these exaggerated costs.
He passed something that required federally funded construction projects to use the majority of supplies and materials from companies in the USA. I was witness to multiple projects since then, and I can tell you from managing them, that each one stayed at its original budget and some even had millions left over that ended up going to states to help with other programs.
That was something positive that I personally saw.
 
Interesting post as the GOP right now is trying to scare people into blaming Democrats for the government shutdown by saying that on Nov 1 they won’t get their SNAP benefits. Seems that republicans are fans of that welfare spending when it’s convenient.
Republicans are well known for voting against government aid and turning around to brag to their constituents about giving them those benefits right before elections.
 
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You mean the $1 salary he takes? Where are you getting 230 million
Trump decided to run for president the day he understood that being president would be profitable for his personal business. And that it came with several perks (avoiding justice, acting like a dictator, etc.). He's not the king of America: he's the king of conflicts of interest.
 
Trump decided to run for president the day he understood that being president would be profitable for his personal business. And that it came with several perks (avoiding justice, acting like a dictator, etc.). He's not the king of America: he's the king of conflicts of interest.
Democrats would never do that either!..2-sides to the fight and this topic is equal on they both do these things. Nothing new.
 
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I'm still having a hard time understanding how they're building a 90,000 square foot ballroom on the White House grounds.

90,000 square feet is the size of a very large exhibition hall that can seat 3,000 people! Are they really building a convention center at the White House?

Or is this another example of Trump over-inflated the size of something?

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